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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,250 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1896 Bassett Voiturette
This has been an annoying one because we know we have had this before and now we cannot find any trace of it; but now we know the answer !! -- It has remained in Ariejan Bos' system but lost in mine. Ariejan has now determined it is a cca 1896 Bassett Voiturette, built by DW Bassett, general manager of Humber, and 'lost' in Offley Bros of Whitby loft, and refurbished later to new condition by them. Registered M 81. Fitted with De Dion Bouton Engine. Not the Bassett Syndicate car.

1896 Bassett Voiturette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902 Darracq Tonneau 'Special'
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand). De Dion Bouton? -- Our Ariejan Bos advises c1902 Darracq Tonneau 'Special'; poss 12 HP "American Darracq" extensively modified. Photo Distortion makes it look odd. Short backward bend of dumb-irons is a good Darracq feature. Body is something American. The wheels have some sort of detachable rims; the rad is enlarged and moved more forward, steering wheel been replaced; mods likely in the early 1910s.

1902 Darracq Tonneau 'Special'

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1905 Humberette Rebodied Special
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification.  Is it a re-bodied Humberette? -- Agreement that it is a special Humberette. Original Humberette was introduced in 1903 with a water-cooled single of 613 cc 5.2 HP and with wheelbase 5'3'' for £125. 'Royal' came in 1904 at 733cc and three speed box add doors at £150, and in 1905 a 7.5HP 1495cc. Stopped 1906. Air or Water Cooled 8HP car in wheelbase 7'5'' came 1913 to 1914 at £135.

c1905 Humberette Rebodied Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Haynes Model K 35'40 Touring
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand). from a facebook asking identification. -- Our Ariejan Bos advises this is a cca 1905 Haynes Touring. Haynes were made in Kokomo Indiana USA by Elwood Haynes and the Apperson Brothers, who made their first car in 1894. This looks a big car out of three for 1905 so would probably be a Model K 35'40 Roi des Belges Touring. By 1906 the Apperson name was dropped and all cars made were 4r cylinder. Closed down in 1925.

Dallas Mayor in 1905 Haynes Model K 35'40 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Sinpar Voiturette
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. Photo marked as Paris? Immediate thought Flanders but dumbirons wrong. I have this very photo labelled 1910 Brouhot, but unlikely. Our Ariejan Bos advises it is a cca 1908 Sinpar Voiturette (‘without equal’) made in Paris. Dashboard radiator. Several cars were used as a photographer's prop, like this one. Reg. ending Y9, is Paris c1908). 1912 made a badged Demeester 8HP. 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly c1909 Armstrong Whitworth
Puzzling photo received from Christopher Carnley (UK) asking if we could identify car on the photo. He has asked the RREC and they say not an early Rolls-Royce. -- A big puzzle because we have same photo in our records from various sources as possible c1909 Armstrong Whitworth Landaulette, perhaps the 18’22. Rounded front axle, seems latching radiator cap, here matrix is full-width curved corners, not usual.  Reg:EC Westmorland, FC: Oxford. Thames of Greenwch had similar pointed rad?

Possibly c1909 Armstrong Whitworth

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cc1914 Wolseley 20'30 Tourer
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA Forum by Mali asking if it is possible to identify the car on the photo. -- No history or location mentioned but is would seem to be in the tropics. We feel this is the same car as depicted below from same sender. Seems to have stoneguard on low rad, tall filler, four louvres,  squared off mudguards. We tend to agree with our Mark Dawber who suggests a Wolseley but we think likely cca 1914 as wide radiator but exposed hinges, a 20'30 or 30'40, 'Colonial'?.

cc1914 Wolseley 20'30 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1914 Wolseley 20'30 Tourer
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA Forum by Mali asking if it is possible to identify the car on the photo. -- Poor damaged photo we have tried to make clearer. We feel this is the same car as depicted above. Just pre-WW1 car but which had been updated/modified in the meantime with bolt-on wheel disks. Other items in same location. We tend to agree with our Mark Dawber who suggests a Wolseley but we think likely cca 1914 as wide radiator but exposed hinges, a 20’30 or 30’40HP.

c1914 Wolseley 20'30 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 AJS V Twin 748cc Model D
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification-- Our Chas Moody advises this is a cca 1916 AJS 748cc Vee twin Model D. Named after Albert Jack Stevenson, was 698cc in 1912, grew to 748 in 1915, then 1000cc in 1930s. Equipped with all-chain drive and a three speed gearbox. In 1915 was given a dropped top tube frame and the attractive tapered fuel tank. In 1916 factory changed to munitions for WW1.  SEE below.

1916 AJS V Twin 748cc Model D

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 AJS V Twin 748cc Model D
The sidecar marketed by AJS was by local firm C W Hayward which grew to be biggest maker in the world, until small cars. This AJS combination had a hard life possibly used for competition; flat handlebars replaced original swept back type, and 'Ace' type discs fitted to the front Wheel. This would prevent the stirrup type brake shoes operating on the rim which were subsequently removed/discarded, as they are conspicuous by their absence! At the time, most cars had no front wheel brakes. 

CW Hayward  Sidecar on 1916 AJS

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1919 Minerva 20HP Limousine
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA Forum by Mali asking if it is possible to identify the car on the photo. -- No history or location mentioned but is would seem to be in the tropics. This is a very high quality Belgian car made in Antwerp. One of the First of the rounded rather that flat fronted radiator type, but still with the smaller diameter wheelhubs. This would seem a to have been made around WW1, and little difficult if pre or post. Probably post. so likely a cca 1919 Minerva 20HP Limousine.

c1919 Minerva 20HP Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Opel 14'48 Torpedo 
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand). from a facebook asking identification. -- This photo is headed 'Two cars in France', but only one is  French and neither have numberplates. No other information given. The car on the left is German and helpfully has the name on the header tank. It has a spitzkuhler rad, thin header, split 'veed' windscreen and larger type separate sidelights. This is therefore a cca 1920 Opel 14'48 Torpedo with a non standard headlamp tie bar.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1923 Heros 247 Motorcycle 
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification--  Lovely picture with part- logo helping identification. This is a cca 1923 Heros 247 Motorcycle made by Hartman & Richter H&R Motorenwerk Zittau, Germany near Czech border. Made bicycles and add-on engines, then 1921-1929 own motorcycles 155, 185, 247cc, Side and overhead, 2 and 4 stroke, 2 or 3 speed gearboxes. 166cc 4str engines supplied to Ranzani, Milan, Italy.

c1923 Heros 247 Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Berliet 12 HP Torpedo
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand). from a facebook asking identification. -- This photo is headed 'Two cars in France', but but only one is French, and neither have numberplates. No other information given. The car on the right is French and helpfully has the name on the radiator. It has a tallish narrow radiator, largish headlamps with a circular headlamp tie-bar, rest hidden, suggesting this is probably a cca 1923 Berliet 12 HP Torpedo, possibly VH Le Mans. 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Packard 443 7- Seat Phaeton
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos. This photo is from a friend. Can we identify the car? --  Two identification pointers are immediately noticeable, being a wavy bonnet and a hexagonal centre to the wheel hub. Both help to narrow it down to a few makes, one of which is Packard of Detroit, Michigan, USA. Packard automobiles were produced 1899 to 1956 This is cca 1926 Packard 443 7- Seat Phaeton. 

1926 Packard 343 7 Seat Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Pierce Arrow Series 80 Sedan
Cinema screen grab taken from an American short silent film comedy " Hot Luck" made in 1928 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about a fireman father, son and dog visiting his firehouse where the chief has just forbidden children and pets. -- The unusual shape of the headlamps being built into the mudguards is the prime pointer as to the make of the car. Made in Buffalo USA by company which started out by making birdcages, this is a cca 1926 Pierce Arrow Series 80 Sedan.

1926 Pierce Arrow Series 80 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929 Chevrolet Imperial Landau 
Small photo received from Randy Koehn of Chilliwack BC (Canada) doing family ancestry research. His  father is driving and photo was taken on the prairies possibly at Purple Springs near Lethbridge Alberta in Canada. -- Our Mark Dawber thinks this is a 1929 Chevrolet Imperial. In 1928 Chevrolet made the National Imperial Landau 4, a convertible with rear section of the roof folded down but this has central bunch of louvres suggesting cca 1929 Chevrolet Int Landau Convertible Sedan 6.

1929 Chevrolet Imperial Landau Convertible Sedan.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929 Stutz DV32 Roadster
Photo from our Aston Martin owner Keith Piper (UK) who was asked if this is his Aston Coupe, which it is not.  -- Looks American with British body? Two of our experts agree luxury car made by Indianapolis based Stutz. Horisintal bonnet louvres so  cca 1929 Stutz DV32 Roadster. The body has the bulbous matt finish of a ‘Weymann’. Stutz made a myriad of models/bodies including own Weyman so not necessarily coachbuilt. Registration is London mid May 1929. Very unusual posh wheel disks.

1929 Stutz DV32 Roadster 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934 Chevrolet Master DA Sedan
Another puzzling photo received from Doug Cooper from Vancouver (Canada) being a family photo stated as a 1940 Chevrolet, but he thinks the car dates from the mid or early 1930s.  -- Agreement from our NZ expert Mark Dawber that is a cca 1934 Chevrolet Master Model DA Sedan. Has the optional twin side mounted spares. Has some sort of home-made attachment on the front bumper and has a radio aerial fitted, perhaps later. The Master had new body in 1935, standard 1936.

1934 Chevrolet Master DA Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1936 Ford Model Y 5cwt Van
Puzzling photo received from Neil Jones (UK) taken on Botley Road (now the A27) with Luzborough Camp, near Romsey, in the background. Ford Model Y? -- Yes, nicely hand painted photo of a cca 1936 Ford Model Y 5cwt Van with a wartime blackout headlamp, parked by a Strongs of Romsay Brewery sign. Reg is Southampton CC late 1936. The 933cc Y range of  saloons, vans and pickups was made 1932-37. This has the new 'long rad' and 6 not 9 bonnet vents, confirming post 1933. 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Adler Trumph 1.5 Rennlimousine
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)  seems frequently to come up with unusual cars; what is this? --  No 35 is a 'privateer' although there was a 'team' of similar bigger cars entered in the 1937 14th 24 Hours of Le Mans,  This is a Nazi German streamliner car with front wheel drive made by a Jewish owned company and driven by a French divorcee lady racing driver Mme Anne-Cécile Rose-Itier in the first-ever fully-enclosed GT, 1937 Adler Trumph 1.5L Rennlimousine, but failed to finish.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937 Morris 10cwt Type Y Van
Puzzling photo received from Neil Jones (UK) taken on Botley Road (now the A27) with Luzborough Camp, near Romsey, in the background. No idea on car.  -- Nicely hand painted photo of not a car but a van. Relatively unusual vehicle built 1936-1939 by Morris Motors. This is a cca 1937 Morris Series II 10 cwt Type Y Van, which was based on the 12/4, having a 1547cc four engine, which was offset nearside allowing for a forward control driver position and thereby having offset rear axle.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939 Peugeot 202 Saloon
Another photo received from Giorgio Tardi (Italy) asking for help in identification. -- I have a feeling he is trying us out because this could be the back of the car he sent us earlier with the headlamps inside the waterfall front grille? The back of the car is equally interesting showing the full spats with a motif covering the rear wheels, no bootlid as acess was from inside the car and the uncovered spare wheel which suggests this was a 4-seater saloon, so small French c1939 Peugeot 202 Saloon.

1939 Peugeot 202 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939 Peugeot 202 Saloon
Another photo received from Giorgio Tardi (Italy) asking for help in identification. -- There was a period in the late 1930s when number of makers went a la mode and copied this sloping waterfall radiator style. This is the French version of the 'fad' and if you know where to look, it tells you quite precisely in writing what it is. The crank handle hole is the zero of 2 above and 2 below it; 202. Above that in original longhand script, it says Peugeot, low wipers,  so cca 1939 Peugeot 202 Saloon.

1939 Peugeot 202 S

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1969 Rover 2000 P6 Saloon
Lovely photo received from Giorgio Tardi (Italy) who took it in Madeira and is asking for help in identification. -- There seem to be a number of well-preserved classic automobiles on the Island of Madeira, which is Portuguese but well out in the Atlantic way off Morocco. This is a British car, a cca 1969 Rover 2000 P6 Saloon, post first facelift. These were made in various forms (Series I, 3500, Series II, 2200 and engine sizes (2.0/2.2/3.5L). 323,000 built 1963 - 1977. Also in  S. Africa, N. Zealand

1969 Rover 2000 P6 Saloon
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