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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page 173 below relates to enquiries received during 2021Click on picture to enlarge
IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,325 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1949 Ford Prefect Special? 
ID below disagreed by Tony Russell who with Ford sidevalve friend are positive front end is early circa 1949 Prefect E93a with  headlamps re-located. The centre door is not Ford CX, but almost certainly home made as is the whole rear of the body. The car is based on the generic chassis and running gear of the Ford 10hp 1172cc E93a range. The wheels standard 16 inch items as fitted to all the Prefect range from 1938 to 1949. Photo probably taken 1950's.  Views on this appreciated.

c1949 Ford Prefect Special? 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1937 Ford Special Saloon 
Photo from Spain by Raoul Rainer (Germany), and my attempt to remove people. --  Seems a Ford "special" made from number of cars. Split screen back/front. No visible headlamps so in-wing. Two side windows with rear window smaller, so probably 'two-door' as no rear hinges. Windows have chrome surrounds. Front end probably a cca 1937 Ford 78 Tudor ; middle doors from a 1935 Deluxe convertible. Rear 'coachbuilt' on a Ford 'trunk-back' chassis. Rebuild of a rear-end shunt?

c1937 Ford Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925 Frazer Nash 1.5 Sports Rebodied
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting where this car is indicated as an Invicta. Mark thinks Frazer Nash? -- Iinteresting one because the answer could be a bit of both! Lots of digging on the internet determined the full registration was OM 9839. More digging found the same registration on old photos of a 1925 Frazer Nash 1.5 Sports with sporting polished aly boat-tail body. Study of both front suspensions suggests re-bodied Frazer Nash.

1925 Frazer Nash 1.5 Sports Rebodied

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938 Hillman Minx Saloon
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. Standard ? --  No, from the unusually wide body stripe which extends along bonnet, body, and down to bottom of the back suggests another British car initially model known as the 'Magnificent'. In 1936 it got new body which was retained largely unchanged to 1949. From the boot which opens outwards and wheeltrimsx of smaller size this must be cca 1938 Hillman Minx Saloon.

1938 Hillman Minx Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Hispano Suiza 60'75 6cyl Tourer
Photo from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from friend Tim in USA asking for ID. Hispano Suiza ? - but what model? -- Emilio de la Cuadra started electric car production in Barcelona as La Cuadra. Employed Swiss Marc Birkigt making IC cars. In 1902, ownership changed becoming Hispano-Suiza, bankrupt in December 1903. Restructured in 1904, and running in Spain until 1946. 1911 Hispano France began in Paris; by 1914 was their main plant. This seems cca 1909 Hispano Suiza 60'75 6cyl Tourer.

909 Hispano Suiza 60'75 6cyl Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown c1910 Tulip-bodied Tourer
Very puzzling family photo received from Steve Hartwich (USA) taken in Germany. His granny seems passenger in rear. -- Enquiry already appeared on PreWarCar. Pool of obscure car identifiers is very small. Suggestions so far of pre-WW1 NAG, Presto and Durkopp. Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos has already advised PreWarCar his suggestion that it is a cca 1910 NSU Tourer. I have not been able to find positive proof but bottom of HP161 a similar slatted rad photo remains unidentified. Help!

Unknown c1910 Tulip-bodied Tourere

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Swift 10HP Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. Rover  ?--  It is definitely not a Rover but although I recognised the car, I could not quite put a name to it to define the model. Our Ariejan Bos in Holland, who happily like me is surviving the virus, came to the rescue and advised the car is 1906 10hp Swift. With this type of bonnet he looks at Swift or Vulcan, but must check which one has the hand grip on the bonnet; which is Vulcan!

1906 Swift 10HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: C1910 Buchet Motorpace Stearsman
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for the purpose of the chap in front of the 'Pacer'? -- Cycle pacing was common in late 1800s to make cyclists faster in long distance racing. Tandems bikes were frequently used with up to five chaps pedaling. Motorcycle pacing was popular and many accidents occurred. Motorpace had tandem engines up to 2,400cc. The guy standing at back was engineer, - chap up front steered the device. 

C1910 Buchet Motorpace Stearsman

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly 1919 Napier Aero-Engined Car
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. --  Size of car suggests it may be a aero engined special with a Rolls Royce like radiator. Impressive decapitation starting handle. The registration is London 1919 which suggests just post WW1. The only mention we have been able to find is a Motorsport photo suggestion that it may not be Mercedes or a Rolls chassis.  but a Napier  Test  car with a Napier RAF3 260 HP V12 Engine.

Possibly c1919 Napier Aero-Engined Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932 Bentley 8L Mulliner Saloon
Interesting 'little & large' photo from David Lawson (UK) of his father's 1932 Bentley 8L Mulliner Saloon. --Jack (John) Lawson, a businessman, who lived in Chaclacayo, in Peru purchased the car in UK in c1957 and shipped it to Peru. The car was a greyish but was re-painted in his livery black and white in Peru. Father sold car in 1962 to a man in Lima who later shipped it to New York in c1985. Became black. Subsequently rebuilt and is now in the 'Jay Lano Garage'. See interesting Video of car.

1932 Bentley 8L Mulline Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1951 Morris Z Van
Couple of lovely photos of a cca 1951 Morris Z Van, with additional single rear side window, belonging to Ananth in Chenai (India). - He mentions Utilevan, a trade name of Martin Walter Morris Y but this is not one of their conversions. Morris made some 51,000 Z vans 1940-53 based on Morris E, widely used by UK GPO Telephones. Military versions were called 'Tillys' (utility) and a range of pickup coupe utes was made in Australia. Rear side window was not normal, so could be home-made.

1951 Morris Z Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Peugeot 5CV Quadrilette
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. - From the photo this very much resembled the Citroen 5CV, LHD, so was likely French and from that era. Headlamps on the wings and transverse front spring, on very small wire wheels. Looks 2 seats, not tandem Initially looked at the Peugeot Bebe but this is the later post WW1 cca 1924 Peugeot Type 172 Quadrilette 667cc. 12,300 cars built 1921-4. Called  Peugeot 5CV.

1923 Peugeot_5CV_Quadrilette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1923 Neracar Type B Motorcycle
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for identification. Is it a Ner-a-Car? -- Yes, a centre hub steering feet forwards motorcycle by Carl Neracher in 1918 on basis of a 1911 Bi-Car design. Made in USA by the Ner-A-Car in Syracuse, New York, who made 10,000 'Neracars', and under licence by UK Sheffield Simplex at Sopwith Aviation Works in Kingston, who made an additional 6,500. USA machines used 221 cc engines and UK 258cc.

c1923 Neracar Type B Motorcycle
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