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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Fiat Tipo 2 Torpedo Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italian film "Girolimoni, il mostro di Roma" (The Assassin of Rome) and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film is about Gino Girolimoni, wrongfully accused of child murders in Rome between 1924 and 1928. -- The car is in the shadows so difficult to be precise. It is an early FIAT with a painted radiator shell and a useful pointer is the headlights which are gas lights. This is probably the cca 1913 Fiat Tipo 2 Torpedo Tourer. Tipo 3 had electrics.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Lion Peugeot VA Voiturette
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook page requiring identification. No info on the vehicle. Mark thought it looked British? -- I thought it looked British too and very reminiscent of the Humberette, only problem is this one was chain drive. So Ariejan Bos again pointed out it was French! It is a cca 1907 Lion Peugeot type VA Voiturette 8 CV as made not by Peugeot but 'Sons of Peugeot Brothers'. About 1000 VA cars were made 1905-1908.

1907 Lion Peugeot VA Voiturette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938 Matford F82A Berline
Very puzzling photo received from Alex Jones (Canada) of his dad after liberation from a concentration camp in mid-1945 when he worked for the US 7th Army as a translator in Heidelberg Germany. No idea on car. -- One thought from running board was Opel Admiral but our Mark Dawber came up with Ford. And indeed, from slotted louvres, it was a cca 1938 Matford F82A Berline V8 2225cc. These were made by Mathis in Alsace 1934 to German occupation 1940. Emile Mathis escaped USA.

1938 Matford F82A Berline

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904 Clement Bayard Tonneau
Another puzzling photo received from Par Sorliden (Sweden) of for him unknown car. Any ideas what this could be? -- Looks to me like a Clement-Talbot but our Ariejan Bos advises that it must a French Clément-Bayard (or Bayard as the official name was in 1903). They were of course identical to the British Clement-Talbot (formed in 1902), but cars for Sweden would have probably been imported from France, not from the UK. This is a cca 1904 Clement-Bayard Swing-Seat Toneau.

1904 Clement Bayard Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unidentified c1913 Truck
Another puzzling photo received from Par Sorliden (Sweden) of for him unknown car. Any ideas what this could be? -- Par suggested it could be a French Vinot & Deguingand. I thought it looked more like a modified Peugeot and our Ariejan Bos though so too, but found too many questions to actually go with it. This could be a much later update of old car with different bits. V-D started in1901 in Paris, acquired Clement Gladiator 1906, and made parallel rages of cars. Shut eventually 1926.

Unidentified c1913 Truck

DENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly cca 1904 Wolseley Tonneau
Intriguing photo from Nicholas Young, author of Car Number Classics (UK) puzzling on make? Reg is trade plate post 1920. -- Looks pozed photo in 1920s of 'Edwardian' event. Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos suggests this is a cca 1904 Wolseley, possibly 12HP in disguise. Our VCC Wolseley owning member Michael Doughty confirms probability suggesting car is not 'in use' as some wheelcaps missing. Both are puzzled as to how car would have had any cooling if actually road going.

Possibly cca 1904 Wolseley Tonneau

DENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1953 Singer 4AD Roadster
Another puzzling photo received from Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) who is on the lookout for unusual cars and wondered if we knew what this one was? Lovely photo of actress Katharine Hepburn taken in 1953 in Jamaica. -- Fashion feature of typical door cutout found on many British cars of the period from early 1930s to late 1950s. This is a Coventry car which was then available as export only, a cca 1953 Singer 4AD SM Roadster with 1500cc 58HP four cylinder engine made to 1955.

1953 Singer 4AD SM Roadster

DENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Unic Charabanc 12 Seater
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook page in Norway asking for identification of the car. Seemingly the reg plate is is c1918 but the car is earlier? Is it a Unic? - Indeed a Unic. Company founded by Georges Richard in 1905 ib Puteaux, Paris. Later made Taxis and Commercials to 1938, then Simca >Saurer>Iveco>Fiat . Flat radiator, rounded scuttle, no saddle tank, so cca 1913 Unic Charabanc, four row, probably the larger 12HP or 17HP.

1913 Unic Charabanc 12 Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 2019 Tricolos Motorcar MTX 150
Cinema screen grab taken from a French film "Carnaval" (Carneval) where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB.  Film about following a breakup, person takes her friends on a free trip to Bahia's vibrant Carnival. -- Bahia is 4th largest city in Brazil and carnival lasts 6 days. Vehicle is a 'Tuk-tuk' which is a tricycle auto rickshaw used in many parts of the tropical world with differing names and variations. This is a  cca 2019 Tricolos Motorcar MTX 150 Trycicle made in Ilheus, Brazil. 

2019 Tricolos Motorcar MTX 150 Trycicle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Daimler 28hp Tonneau
Another lovely photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a motorcycle forum asking for identification of the motorcycle. Cars seem to be Daimlers from different eras? -- The car on left has registration X 714 which was issued by Northumberland County Council (near Scotland), and would have been right for the area of Otterburn where Otter Burn (stream) meets the River Rede. Registration data lost, but the car on left is a cca 1905 Daimler 28hp Tonneau with a hood.

1905 Daimler 28hp Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908/9 Triumph 475cc Motorcycle
Another lovely photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a motorcycle forum asking for identification of the motorcycle. -- Our Chas Moody thinks from top frame it is a cca 1908/9 Triumph: patent front forks pivoted at bottom of steering head with horizontal buttress type springs at top; Triumph rear stand has angled stays which rest on the bottom frame tubes; steel rod mudguard stays on the drive side sets round the belt rim; rod type magneto advance & retard on tank.

1908/9 Triumph 500cc Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Daimler 22HP Tonneau
Another lovely photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a motorcycle forum asking for identification of the motorcycle. Cars seem to be Daimlers from different eras? -- The car on the right seems to have registration AR 11 which is Hertford CC, town north of London. AR-11 is mentioned in “Car Number Classics” as a 1903 22hp Daimler Tonneau but radiator been replaced by one of own design. Car once belonged to costly actress Valery Reece, Lady Meux of brewery fame.  

1903 Daimler 22HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Prob. c1910 GJ Lines Child Pedal Car
An unclear photo-of-a-photo from Lindsey Batty-Smith (UK) asking about this car which her father is in aged about 4 around 1907 in Ascot. -- We have enhanced photo so that the details of the vehicle can be seen. The car is obviously a Child's Pedal Car, unusually chain driven, which would have been a very expensive toy at the time. This is not a representation of any make, and is likely to have been built cca 1910 by G J Lines, 1878 rocking-horse makers, who eventually became Tri-ang.

Probably c1910 GJ Lines Child Pedal Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Gladiator Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook page by Matt Peterson suggesting cars in Ireland involving Captain William F."Bill" Peare, first man to import the automobile into Ireland. Suggestions either Gladiator or Vinot. -- Registration LB 4476 is London CC 1908. Our Ariejan Bos states all cars are Gladiators. Vinot & Deguingang takeover was 1909.  Gladiato model history is complicated. The car on left is cca 1908 Gladiator Tourer.

1908 Gladiator Tourer

DENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Gladiator Open Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook page by Matt Peterson suggesting cars in Ireland involving Captain William F."Bill" Peare, first man to import the automobile into Ireland. Suggestions either Gladiator or Vinot. -- Registration not clear, poss WI Waterford, N.Ireland. Our Ariejan Bos advises the car in the middle seems to be a cca1908 Gladiator Tourer. This vehicle seems chain drive and had been used for competition.

1908 Gladiator Tourer  

DENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Gladiator Tourer, poss 12'14
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook page by Matt Peterson suggesting cars in Ireland involving Captain William F."Bill" Peare, first man to import the automobile into Ireland. Suggestions either Gladiator or Vinot. -- Registration is WI 65, Waterford CBC, N.Ireland. Our Ariejan Bos advises the car on the right seems to be a cca1908 Gladiator Tourer. Gladiator model history is complicated but this could be the 12'14 four.

1908 Gladiator Tourer  

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 SAVA Open-Drive Landaulette
Another puzzling photo received from Par Sorliden (Sweden) of for him unknown car. No info when or where the photos are taken. Any ideas what this could be? -- No, so asked our experts including  Ariejan Bos who came back quickly that this is a cca 1912 SAVA (the successor of Royal Star) with a Dutch license plate N-368. The Dutch license system started 1906, similar to the UK. The N was attributed to the province of noNoord-Brabant, one of the southern provinces of The Netherlands. 

1912 SAVA Open-Drive Landaulette  

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c2018 Bajaj Tuk-Tuk Rickshaw
Cinema screen grab taken from a French TV Series "Top Gear France" where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. - This is a customised Tuk-tuk' tricycle rickshaw used in many parts of the tropical world with differing names and variations, mostly with open bodies and canvas roof. This one looks a recent standard Bajal 205 from India who make 780,000 per year. A new industry has grown round this vehicle of making stand-out bolt-on fibreglass bodykits to enclose passengers.

c2019 Bajaj Tuk-Tuk Rickshaw

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921 Citroen B2 Torpedo Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a French film "Byl mesyats may" (School of Life) made in 2017, where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.-In 1920s France an orphan is adopted by a rustic couple who work for a rural landowner. Left to himself, he soon comes under the spell of the local poacher.--  This is a cca 1921 Citroen B2 Torpedo Tourer.  B2 was second model produced by Citroën in Quai de Javel, Paris, between May 1921-July 1926, 4-cyl 1,452cc 10HP/10CV 31 MPG.

921 Citroen B2 Torpedo Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1930 OK-Supreme 500cc Motorcycle
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a local forum of New Zealand Police asking if Ariels, then came back with answer: OK Supremes.  -- As these were new to us we did a bit of research and found that OK-Supreme was a British motorcycle manufacture in Birmingham who started with bicycles in 1899 and motorbikes 1906 with 'Precision' engines. Later own engines also JAP. Bought the HRD company 1928, selling to Phil Vincent. Closed 1939.

c1930 OK-Supreme 500cc Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1902 Panhard & Levassor Surrey
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from friend Tim in USA, who saw it on the web. Photo could have been taken 1903 and the car on the left could be a Panhard or a De Dietrich. -- Guessing husband and wife so she has the sedate town car? Yes a cca 1902 Panhard & Levassor Surrey made in Paris, France, by company started in 1887 making cars under Gottlieb Daimler licence. Rad tubes are hull height of bonnet suggesting a bigger 16hp or even a 20hp car.

c1902 Panhard & Levassor Surrey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1902 Renault 14/20hp Tonneau
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from friend Tim in USA, who saw it on the web. Photo could have been taken 1903 and the car on the right could be a 1902 Renault K as used on Paris Vienna, but this looks bigger. -- The car on the right is certainly a Renault. The early cars had side mounted radiators. The1903 Renault 14/20hp Tonneau had a really large bonnet, similar to this one and had the 17 cooling tube rows each side. The K Type had 20 tube row rad.

c1903 Renault 14/20hp Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Milnes Daimler Charabanc
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook page in Australia believed to have been entitled 'Sheehan's Motor Bus'. -- Study of the vehicle indeed shows Sheehan Bros, Proprietors We note the buildings has 'Daly s' on it and is very similar to the building in Daylesford, some 90 minutes from Melbourne, a gold-rush town in 1850s with nearby mineral spa town of Hepburn. The vehicle is probably a cca 1906 Milnes Daimler Charabanc, nicely tiered.

1906 Milnes Daimler Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown c1924 Motorcycle
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum asking for identification. The photo is dated 1930 and quite small. The engine looks to be 1920s but the bike looks to have unsprung forks and a gas light. Strange numberplate. -- Our bike expert Chas Moody advises the engine is a Villiers 147cc single cylinder two-stroke made 1922 up to 1947. Francis Barnett used this engine 1923 to 1929. This machine could be 1922 - 1926, perhaps Monet Goyon but different.

Unknown c1924 Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown Friction Drive Two-Seater
Another puzzling photo received from Par Sorliden (Sweden) of for him unknown car. Any ideas what this could be? -- Tyres are Swedish; concentric circle rad; perhaps one-piece non-round bonnet splaying baseout with strange holding fixture; Big rear chain sprocket; Strange round thing with holes under car directly behind the rear running board stay- friction drive?? Ariejan Bos had no answer, thought about 1905, indeed friction drive,  American or German or local product or a repro?

Unknown Friction Drive Two-Seater
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