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[ Darracq GP Car of the 1908 TT Races ] ::
Fascinating photo taken
Easter 1910 and received from Mike Statham, who is part of the Research Team at the
Friends of Insole Court, formerly Ely Court, Llandaff, near Cardiff in
Wales. Could we identify make of the 'Strip-down Car' in order for them to try and
identify driver. Interesting to note that in the background of the
picture is a cca 1904 White Steam Car.
I had the feeling that the car was a cca 1906 Darracq
GP so investigated
further and noted that there were two GP cars of note in that period.
There was the V8 and the straight 4. This is the 4 cylinder. I also noticed that
there were two pipe layouts on the four cylinder engines. One had the
two inlet pipes on the inside of four exhausts and the other had the
inlets outside the exhausts. This photo has the inlets outside. The
radiators are square, rather than 'veed', and have the then modern
Darracq shape.
I also noted that Algernon Lee Guinness drove a very similar car in
the 1908 Tourist Trophy. Algernon Arthur St Lawrence Guinness of the
famous brewing family, started racing at the age of 21, especially
successful with the Darracq, winning events in Belgium and France as
well as the British Isles, and setting a world Land Speed Record in
1908. He also took part in circuit events and was a starter in the
Tourist Trophy on the Isle of Man every year from 1905 to 1908, always
in Darracqs. He finished third in the 1906 race and second in 1908.
From the photos of the day his car had the inlet pipes similarly on
the outside. Unfortunately I have no photo of the registration of the
Guinness car, as it did not seem to carry one in the race, Registration
on the car above is D 2578. D is Kent County Council and was issued 1907. Unfortunately to confuse me, one write-up states " Algy
managed to purchase the famous "200hp" V8 Darracq from the
factory in 1906" . I note that ALG then retired after the 1908 TT
race but did return to racing with Sunbeams: "In 1914 he returned
to racing after several years, driving a Sunbeam, retiring in the TT but
winning the Beacon Hill hill climb the following month."
The 1908 TT regulations limited the RAC rating to 25.6hp, resulting in a
maximum cylinder bore of 4ins (101.6mm) for four-cylinder cars, hence
the so-called 'four-inch cars'. Other requirements were a minimum of
four cylinders, a minimum weight of 1,600lb (725.8kg), and a crew of two
comprising a driver and mechanic both of whom had to carry out all
repairs using spares and tools carried on-board, as no outside help was
allowed. Course distance was 337.5 miles (543km).
"At a meeting of the Highway Board of the Isle of Man held in
Douglas on Wednesday last, the application of the Royal Automobile Club
for permission to hold a race for motorcars was considered, and it was
decided to issue permission for the race to take place on Thursday,
September 24th next. Considerable satisfaction is felt in the island at
the number of entries for the race; 21 are of British origin and 14 of
foreign origin. The course was also fixed for the "Four-inch"
race, and it will be the old Gordon-Bennett eliminating trial course,
which starts at Douglas, goes through Castleton, to Fordale, to Glen
Helen, to Kirk Michael, along the level mile at Ballaugh, to Ramsey, up
the mountain and back to Douglas, a total distance of 52 miles. Parts of
the course, over which our representative has driven during the last few
days, are very bad, especially for racing, and unless considerable
attention is at once paid to the roads, broken springs will be numerous.
The Manx people are all eagerly looking forward to the races, which will
please them more than the T.T. races."
We contacted various of our experts in the period and were fortunate to
receive the following reply from Malcolm Jeal: The easy
bit first; - there is no doubt whatsoever that the car (registered D
2578) is one of the 3 Darracq team cars that ran in the 1908 TT race,
known as the "4-inch Race" because of the required maximum
cylinder bore size. There were never any 'replicas' - in the correct use
of that term. I have photos of all 3, driven by Arthur George, Algy Lee
Guinness, and, 'Toby' Rawlinson. The inlet and exhaust pipework looks
rather complicated as both were on the same side and of similar
dimensions, push-rod ohv all on the off-side.
The cars were sold off after the race and various people owned examples
at various times, and in 1913 G R N Minchin had one, which he then had
rebodied, and which was written about in the Autocar May 3rd 1913.
In Veteran and Vintage Magazine June 1969 there is a photo sent in by
Minchin of the 3 TT cars in 1913 with the then three owners at their
respective wheels. These are identified as Malcolm Campbell (who had
raced his car at Brooklands in 1911 when he called it "The
Flapper"), Kenelm Lee Guiness, and, Neville Minchin.
We can see from other pictures that in 1913 Campbell's car was
registered LN-870, the Guinness car LA-9513, and the Minchin machine
BJ-578, again, no doubt about these registrations. Eagle-eyed you will
have noticed that the Registration in the photo sent to you is D-2578
and Minchin's car carried the number plate: BJ-578. The last three
digits are identical. Coincidence? I think not. The car in 'your' photo
is in itself not a problem, I assume that whoever is in it then, was a
pre-Minchin owner as the Campbell car it almost certainly is not
and we can reasonable assume that the Guinness brothers kept theirs from
the TT days.
So the waters are a bit murky as to which precise car this. It seems
to be folklore that Minchin was not particularly pedantic about which
numberplate his cars carried, so this could well be the Minchin car. We
also know that Algy Guinness raced one of these three Darracqs in the 1908 TT
and that he then retired. We also know from Friends of Insole Court that
the owner of Insole Cour, Eric Insole, where the photo was taken, that: ...
perhaps
the car may be a Sunbeam Grand Prix - because we know the Insoles had one
in 1914 - it was raced at Porthcawl sands and Weston sands and the
Caerphilly hill climb that year but no photos of these events have be
found. Sunbeam it is not, but we also know from the earlier researches that Algy
Guinness returned to racing in 1914, driving a Sunbeam. So putting
two and two together and coming up with 22, it could be one of the
Guinness brothers visiting Eric Insole to talk introductions to Sunbeam
racing??
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Since the above was written, we have been advised of
the following article in the Motor Sport Magazine 1994 which appears to
confuse the issue even further:
However, we know from the 1913 photo above, and the Motor Sport 1994 text,
and confirmed on photos elsewhere, that that Malcolm Campbell had the LN
870, that Kenelm Guinness had the LA 9513, and Minchin, BJ 578. On the
Motor Sport photo it is just possible to make out 'Blue Bird (??)' on
Minchin's car. Assuming The Guinness and Rawlison registrations were
kosher, it would be nice to find out when they obtain these
registrations. LA 9513 is London cca June 1911, LN 870 is London cca Jan
1907, and BJ 578 was East Suffolk mid 1908. One would have somehow
assumed the cars would have been registered at the same place and at the
same time?
The Motor Sport article suggests Minchin was chided by Campbell for
suggesting in 1913 that the George car carried 17, which it indeed it
had done, and Campbell stated that Guinness car carried 17, which
he did not. The George car was not 30 as according to
Campbell, because that number was carried by the Rawlinson car. Original
photos of the Guinness car in 1908 TT show it carrying racing number 4,
the George car carrying racing number 17, and Rawlinson car carrying
number 30. So it seems that Campbell in 1913 may have caused some
of the confusion, and we are really no nearer to nailing the car down.
Unfortunately I have not been able to find any photos of the three
Darracqs in 1908 wearing roadgoing numberplates, nor any entry list
showing any such numbers. It is therefore very difficult to follow the
various car's individual life sequences. One thing is for sure thanks to
the 'Insole' photo; one of the cars was definitely D 2578 when
photographed at Insole Court at Easter 1910. D 2578 was Kent
County Council registration, issued 1907. The shenanigans with the
registration have generally been attributed to Minchin and the car was
carrying registration BJ 578 when photographed outside Campbell's house
in 1913.
So it is unlikely the people who shenaniganned with the registrations
were the original unnamed seller of the George car to the Doctor up
north, or the Doctor up north who sold it to Welsh coal mine owner
(presumably Insole?). The car appears at Insole Court as D 2578 at which
point it seems to have been sold to Minchin.
Now here is an interesting hypothesis. We know from pictorial records
that one of the Insole Rollses had a shenaniganned numberplate and now
there seems to be another potentially shenaniganned car, the Darracq, at
Insole Court. Interesting coincedences? It certainly seems evident that
Insole and Micnhin knew each other and that Guinness may not have been
the connection?
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