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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
Page 182
below relates to enquiries received during
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902
Hinnell 6HP Dog-Cart
Nicely hand painted puzzling photo from James Game
(UK) taken in Stanford-le-Hope, c1906
Victoria Road Iron Works. -- -- Our
Ariejan Bos has no identification. He thought a c1900, possibly a
one-off made by locally by competent engineers trying their luck. Seems
he is right as James Game came back later saying he discovered an
article about this car which advises it is a
cca 1902 Hinnell 6HP Dog Cart made by
JG Hinnell for Brother JS Hinnell, No other mention of make found. MORE
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1905 Griffon Motorcycle
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos. Griffon?
-- Leon Mitchell confirms a well used cca
1905 Griffon with Z&L 476cc or
354cc engine; coil ignition. Griffon was a French bicycle company
founded 1898 by Eugene Peugeot who added a Z&L engine and became
leading French motorcycle producer. Became Peugeot when 'Peugeot Freres'
and 'Les Fils de Peugeot-Freres' reunited to form 'Société des
Automobiles Peugeot'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1906 Gladiator 16HP Tonneau
Our Friend David Hales has commented on our photos
on Help Page 179
of a Gladiator relating to Women Suffragettes from the
Hastings, and an
Enfield with the same registration number Y 515
(photos 5 and 9 down). David advises number was first issued to the
16/22hp Gladiator tourer belonging to H K Hope of Batts Park, Taunton,
Somerset on 12th June 1906. He later transferred the number to his 25hp
Enfield cabriolet in July 1913 by which time he was in Bexhill, Sussex
(perhaps earlier?).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Lacoste & Battmann Ambulance
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) marked as a
Lacoste & Battmann 24HP Ambulance. -- Lacoste
& Cie founded 1897 in Paris, became Lacoste & Battmann 1901,
and became British owned in 1906. V variety of 'badge engineered' cars
for other companies, many of them British, few own name. Bigger cars
and busses were generally chassis only; Engines Aster or De Dion.
Postcard is dated 1908, so 24HP made in 1907, bankrupt 1909. Restart
1910-13.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Sultane Landaulette Taxi
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos. French? -- Front
looks modern, a bit Ford T-ish, but is from a relatively obscure French
manufacturer which was well gone by the time the T looked like it. Our
Ariejan Bos advises from the faint registration just visible on the
sidelight it is an obscure cca
1908 Sultane Landaulette Taxi made by
Lethimonnier & Cie, Paris 16th, by the Arc de Triomphe. Sultan also
made in USA. CLICK
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908
Lion Peugeot VA Sports
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos. French? ---
Confirmed by our Ariejan Bos as cca
1908 Lion Peugeot VA with a Solex
Centrifugal Radiator patented by Frenchmen Goudard & Mannenson in
1906, trademarked Solex, and later mandated on all Paris busses and
commercials including De Dion Bouton. Same company developed the Solex carburetor.
After WW2 made 7 million VeloSoleX front engined motorised bicycles. Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Lorraine Dietrich Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos. French? --
Little bit of research reveals that this
seems to be a well-known old photo showing a cca
1908 Lorraine-Dietrich Tourer which
has been fitted with solid Delta wheels and elastic tires, having a
two-door tonneau body with five or six seats. At this time Lorraine
Dietrich were also making a series of elongated six=wheel "ominibus"
which had a central axle, and a wheel, in middle of the car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Wolseley-Siddeley 14HP Tourer.
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos asking
for identification. Wolseley? --
Indeed a Wolseley from time when Herbert
Austin had a disagreement with the Vickers Board of Directors over
engines and had left, being replaced by the London Sales Manager John
Siddeley, who earlier built the Siddeley car, who then added his name
to Wolseley cars (1907-11). This is a London CC registered 1909
Wolseley-Siddeley 14HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Corre la Licorne 8CV Two-Seater
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos or identification. Is the
car a De Dion? --
Seemed like it, but our Ariejan Bos corrected it
as a cca
1909 Corre La Licorne Two seater, poss
8HP. Date from registration. Corre rad more roundish appearance and has
a higher top curve. Cyclist Corre started tricars 1901, eventually sued
by Renault, had to sell in 1907, bought by own racing driver's father
Lestienne, became Corre la Licorne to 1950.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Unic 12'14 Landaulette
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos. French? --
Grasse is a town on the French Riviera
inland of Cannes known for perfumes. The car looks the slightly bigger cca
1910 Unic 12'14 Landaulette, which was
very popular at the time also as a Taxi and remained in production for
20 years. An extensive fleet of Unic Taxis operated in London. Street
numbering here may have changed, because address is currently an Indian
restaurant,
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Possibly 1912
Rex JAP Combination
Another interesting photo from our
archives which has so far eluded identification. --
Leon Mitchell from Adelaide advised this is a
probably not a normal road going bike but a machine widely used as a
seaside photographer's prop with many different people featured in it.
It is noticeable there are no tyre tracks in the sand. Registration is
London County Council 1905 when sidecars would be wicker. He suggests
the bike could be a cca
1912 Rex JAP Combination, used as a
prop.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Automobilette Cyclecar
Lovely photo received from Maciej Saryusz-Romiszewski (Poland)
aken in Volhynia, near Zythomir, estate of Siedaczovka or Male
Korovincy, before 1918. --
Our Ariejan Bos advises a cca
1913 Automobilette V twin 6'8 Cyclecar
with belt drive, built in Billancourt, Paris, by Coignet &
Ducreuzel in competition to the Bedelia. Bullnose radiatior, tandem
seating, driver at back, underslung chassis. In 1914 offered a 6hp
Anzani or 4 cyl own engine. Many body shapes, looks differences. MORE
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Halley TramwayTower Wagon
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos relating to Edinburgh,
Scotland. On right is a Tilling Stevens but what is on left?
-- On the left is a relatively unusual
Tramway Tower Wagon made in Glasgow by Halley's
Industrial Motors started in 1905 -
1927 and considered by 1914 as one of big 10 making 25/35/45HP.
Research suggests this Halley was made cca 1914 and used by Leith
Council and re-registered WS 5194 becoming Edinburgh.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
Tilling Stevens Tower Wagon
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos relating to Edinburgh,
Scotland. Right Tilling Stevens? --
Indeed a Tilling Stevens. Registration SG is
Edinburgh Borough Council 1921-24, so 5077 is likely 1922. Company
Started as Stevens 1897 making petrol electric busses, no gear changes
so easier to drive. Purchased by London horse-bus operator Thomas
Tilling 1921, this is a cca
1922 Tilling Stevens Petrol Electric Tower Wagon,
15-20HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
Charon Charonette Torpedo
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) believed a Ferenand Charron. --
Ferenand Charron was famous French cyclist, later
racing driver. Formed CGV in 1901, which in 1906 became
capitalised from England as Carron Ltd making London Taxis. He left
1908. Company also had links with Praga in Czecho. All cars had rear
radiators, moved to front post WW1. Introduced small Charronette in
1914, but this is the later 1057cc cca
1922 Charon Charonette Torpedo
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923
Peugeot173 Torpedo Tourer
Cinema screen grab from a German film " Sommersprossen"
(Freckles) made in 1968 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.
Bbased on the 1934 nreal-life story of German bank robbers Kurt Sandweg
and Waldemar Velte creating mayhem in Basel Switzerland. --
Interesting car, made in France, this is a Peugeot which had may models
in the early years. This had no external door hinges but also has no
front brakes so is likely an early cca
1923 Peugeot 173 Torpedo, 1525cc OHV.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923
Chenard & Walcker Torpedo
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos, Melbourne
Myer Emporium. -- Discussion about the car
on the right, Chenard & Walcker or Delaunay Belleville. From
photo very difficult but after much study we note curved front axle,
wavy bottom of radr, dimples at top of rad (?), full mudguards, double
windscreen frames, dumbirons, etc so we think it is a cca
1923 Chenard & Walcker Model U 15CV Torpedo,
and not the Delaunay PB4.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924
Dodge 116 Four Touring
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos,
Cars in Melbourne by the Myer Emporium.
-- The emporium is still there but now all chrome and glass, with trees
and with a pedestrian covered walkway across the road. Discussion about
the car on the left suggests a Dodge. Taller bonnet line and vertical
louvres, and as the car has outside handles it is likely a cca
1924 Dodge 116 Four Touring, possibly
the 'Special' model from the brightwork.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926/7
FIAT 507 Torpedo Tourer
Photos received from Mario Majarich (Australia)
who came with parents from the Dalmatian island of Losinj. His
father was the first with a Taxi and trucks on the island, and Mario
wanted to know details.---We
had identified this car with headlamp and side-lamp in one unit, in
2012 on Help
Page 46 as a cca
1926/7 FIAT 507 Torpedo Tourer. This
was one of a number of fascinating photos from Mario all from Dalmatian
Islands, others on Help
Page 47 showing some early busses
and fire engines.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927
Renault NN Torpedo
Cinema screen grab from French TV Series "Arsene Lupin"
made 1971 to 1974 where the cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The
Series was based on Maurice Leblanc's gentleman master thief Arsène
Lupin who was featured in over 50 stories starting in 1905.-- The
car is French, medium size, no front grille, still has a coalscuttle
bonnet in the 1920s, so is a Renault. The Renault Logo changed from
round to diamond shape in 1926 so post 1926, indicating this is a
cca
1927 Renault NN Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928 Peugeot 12'6 Model 183 Saloon
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos . Dolly Davis; French?? --
Indeed, Dolly Davis French actress,
Julienne Alexandrina David born Paris 1896, who was mainly in silent
comedy parts late 1920s/30s; died 1962. Postcard also depicts a then
new cca
1928 Peugeot 12'6 Model 183 Saloon,
six cylinder 1,991cc made in various forms 1928-1932, whose large and
luxury saloon size interior was popular amongst the Paris taxi trade.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1930 Gillet Herstal Twin
Another interesting photo from our
archives which has so far eluded identification. --
Leon Mitchell from Adelaide advises this is a cca
1930 Gillet Herstal, made in Belgium
(Not to be confused with Rene Gillet of France). This is a twin-port
overhead-valve model, so is probably a 500cc. Made by Ateliers Gillet,
founded 1919 and operating through to 1959 in Herstal (Liege). into
competitions, and one went around the world in 1926. Later Swiss MAG V
twins, Three wheeled car in 1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932
Morris Family Eight Saloon
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos captioned
"The Bank of New Zealand agency premises at
Te Kauwhata c1936" asking for identification, --
Suggested as Wolseley Hornet but our
experts believe that despite apparent two sets of louvres, this looks
like a cca 1932 Morris Family Eight. Last of the OHC Minor engines and
was built on the Wolseley Hornet chassis, being 1'1" longer than
the two-seater Minor. Louvres osoptical illusion.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932 Woseley Hornet 6
Sports
Another interesting photo received from regular contributor
James Baxendale (UK) taken in 1933. Could we please identify car. --
Small so difficult to see details. Please send photos to be as
large as practicably possible. Seems two seater sports
car with three sets of vertical louvres and narrow band radiator
surround; numberplate is unreadable. Three Louvre suggests car is a
cca 1932 Woseley Hornet 6 cyl Sports which was bodied by many outside
coachbuilders, some difficult to identify.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1947
Delahaye 135MS Narval Sports
Lovely photo received from David Boyett
(USA). Grandfather imported Rolls, MGs, etc. in Dallas, TX, but
this seems a flashy prototype.-- No,
a 'production' car, a French cca
1947 Delahaye 135MS Narval Sports
bodied by the Paris coachbuilders Figoni & Falaschi. About 2,000
135s were built 1935-54, mostly factory bodied. The MS was 3.5L
straight six, racing version at 160HP. Seven similar Narval F&F
cars built (named after the Beluga Whale with high forehead), some now
concours in USA.
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