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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1902
Toledo Steamer Dos-a-dos
Very interesting photo found while surfing on a website dealing with
history of Japanese motor industry where photo sais is Panhard vehicle
being used as a bus in 1903 Japan, when cars were mainly used as public
transport. -- We
have advised the website that the photo is not of a French Panhard
Levasssor but is of a specially bodied and overloaded American
cca 1902 Toledo Steamer Dos-a-dos. It
is probably a model A which has 6.5HP 2- cylinder steam engine. Read
More Toledo History.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Prescott 7.5 Steam Carriage
Another puzzling old grainy picture posted on a forum of old photos
asking for identification of the make of vehicles.
-- This is obviously
an American steam vehicle of which quite a variety were. Probably the
most well known are Stanley and Locomobile. It is actually very
difficult to tell them all apart at first glance so attention has to be
paid to the steam controls. This one has four taps above the valve
block and sight glass so New York made cca
1903 Prescott 7.5HP Folding Seat Steamer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Darracq 20'28 Chassis
Interesting historical photo received from Fraser Sloan (UK)
asking for identification of car, perhaps foreign due to number plate,
but equally it may have been some sort of trade plate as the Rootes
Motor Works placard at the back certainly gives the indications. --
In view of badge we initially looked at
Crossley but not a match. The only other similar widows peak
radiator/badge combination was cca
1907 Darracq; from the engine
configurations, it is probably a 20'28.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908
Clement Bayard Two-Seater
Lovely picture postcard posted on a forum of old photos asking for
identification of unknown vehicle. -- Postcard
says Vallon-en-Sully which is in absolute middle of France on the river
Cher and is renowned for having a number of Chateau castles and ruins,
and seemingly old car meetings. The car on this photo is a bit unusual
being a French
cca 1908 Clement Bayard
Two-Seater, possibly the
10'12, made just before the brand turned to having better known
coalscuttle Renault type bonnets.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910
Sunbeam 16'20 Tourer
Another puzzling old grainy picture posted on a forum of old photos
asking for identification. Possibly taken in England. --
Yet another
lovely photo featuring the family dog. This is a very pretty
British car built in Wolverhampton and is a cca 1910
Sunbeam 16'20 Tourer which then cost £485 with Torpedo body and
detachable wheels. This one is fitted with a flexible mud-skirt made
from painted leather. Last
Talbot-Sunbeam car made in 1981, when Peugeot them bought from Chrysler.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Wolseley 16'20 Cabriolet
Another interesting screen grab received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum of photos and
asking for information on the vehicle. The photo apparently comes from
the Netflix 2022 film version of 'Lady Chatterley's Lover'. Famous
story of a titled lady going off with the gamekeeper on husband's
estate. -- This
is a cca
1912 Wolseley 16'20 Open Drive Cabriolet
having a fully convertible roof but with opening windows. It is powered
by a 3 litre engine and can carry seven.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Mors 14'16 Torpedo
Lovely picture postcard posted on a forum of old photos asking for
identification identification of unknown vehicle. --
Postcardsays
Pleudihen, a town on the river of La Rance on the coast of Brittany
famous for apples and Breton champagne. The lorry in the background is
a little blurry to make out correctly but the car in the front is a
French cca
1913 Mors 14'16 Torpedo. This car
would have been built during Andre Citroen's secondment from Citroen
Gear Co to Mors as Chairman.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
White 1 Ton Truck
Cinema screen grab taken from American TV film "Powderkeg"
made 1971 of cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of Mexican
bandit and gang who hijack a train and threaten to kill all passengers
if his brother not released from jail. -- This
is an American cca
1913 White 1 Ton Gasoline Truck made
by the White Motor Company in Cleveland Ohio after Thomas White bought
a unreliable Locomobile steamer in 1898. Made Steamers, Trucks cars,
then gasoline. Became Volvo 1981.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Mercedes 22'50 PS Town car
Cinema screen grab taken from American TV film "Bearcats!"
made 1971 where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Couple of mercanaries
adventures in preWW1 American southwest in their Stutz Bearcat car. --
Replica Bearcats were made, but this would
seem to be a genuine oldie, a cca
1914 Mercedes 22'50 PS Town Car,
bodied by Brewster & Co. Brewster were American, found 1810 in
Connecticut and later New York. Became agents Delaunay and Rolls, and
made own car 1914-25.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
NB 12HP Cloverleaf
Another interesting screen grab received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of photos and asking
for information on the vehicle. The photo apparently comes from the
Netflix 2022 film version of 'Lady Chatterley's Lover'. Famous story of
a titled lady going off with the gamekeeper on husband's estate. -- This
has been a quite difficult car to figure outbut very likely a
"NB" marketed by a British company but made in Italy a cca
1914 NB 12HP Cloverleaf.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1917
FWD Model B Truck
Cinema screen grab taken from American film "Waterloo Bridge"
made 1940 where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about WW1 UK
Colonel stopping on Waterloo Bridge in London on way WW2 France to
reminisce about lost young love. Remake of 1931
film. -- American
production, some backdrops painted in California, some shot in London.
ID difficult, but this looks a cab-over-engine cca
1917 FWD Model B Truck by Four Wheel
Auto Company, Clintonville, Wisconsin from 1912.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918
Liberty Type B Truck
Cinema screen grab taken from American film "Waterloo Bridge"
made 1940 where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about WW1 UK
Colonel stopping on Waterloo Bridge in London on way WW2 France to
reminisce about lost young love. Remake of 1931
film. -- American
production, some backdrops painted in California, some shot in London.
Lots of night shots making car ID difficult, but his looks like another
cca
1918 Liberty Type B Truck which
has had radiator bull bars removed.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918
Liberty Type B Lorry
Cinema screen grab taken from American film "Waterloo Bridge"
made 1940 where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about WW1 UK
Colonel stopping on Waterloo Bridge in London on way WW2 France to
reminisce about lost young love. Remake of 1931
film. -- American
production, some backdrops painted in California, some shot in London.
Lots of night shots making car ID difficult, but this looks a cca
1918 Liberty Type B Truck with simple
tape over USA logo and no bull bars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919
Hotchkiss 20'30 Landaulette
Couple of enhanced photos received from Andrew Cadney (UK)
of Grandpa, George Cadney, who before WW1
was a stable lad. 1914 he joined 2nd Lifeguards as a trooper (saddler)
possibly with employer who joined the regiment and took some of his
staff with him. He survived and prospered being in 1918 in the Guards
Machine Gun Regiment. Demobbed and became Chauffeur probably to same
family. -- This
is a later 1919 registered French c1912
Hotchkiss 20'30 Landaulet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923
Walter TS Villiers TS Sport
Another interesting screen grab received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum of photos and
asking for information on bike with W on the tank. -- We
suggested Walter to our motorcycle expert Chas Moody who confirmed from
Trabgatsch Encyclopedia a Walter suggesting the
cca 1923 Walter TS
Villiers TS Sport. The tank and lining match although it doesn't have
the large 'W' of our picture which looks like tank has been repainted
as bike had been getting a bit run down.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925
Mauser Einspurauto
Another puzzling old grainy and small picture posted on a forum of old
photos asking for identification of vehicles, this one without any
background but suggesting it may be a Monotrace? - This
little vehicle seems to have a very complicated past which makes
identification quite difficult but we are relatively sure from the
grille on the side of the 'bonnet', as well as rad at the front, and
having a windscreen, that this is the German cca
1925 Mauser Einspurauto.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928
Dunelt 500cc Combination
Interesting motoring theme Christmas card received from our member and
motorcycle expert Chas Moody (UK).
Out of interest we examined the tank of the motorcycle and could see a
D U but not much more so decided to investigate. --
FN 6881 is a Canterbury CBC registration.
The engine seems to have a crossways silencer forward of the engine fed
from two exhaust pipes. Research of similar photos advises this one was
a photographer's prop, being a cca 1928 Dunelt 500cc Combination.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
1929 Citroen B12 Taxi
Cinema screen grab taken from American film "Waterloo Bridge"
made 1940 where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about WW1 UK
Colonel stopping on Waterloo Bridge in London on way WW2 France to
reminisce about lost young love. Remake of 1931
film. -- American
production, some backdrops painted in California, some shot in London.
Lots of night shots making car ID difficult. Possibly American but
probably but could be a
cca 1929 Citroen B12 Taxi. Read
More History.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932
Rolls Royce 20'25 Limousine
Cinema screen grab taken from American film "Waterloo Bridge"
made 1940 where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about WW1 UK
Colonel stopping on Waterloo Bridge in London on way WW2 France to
reminisce about lost young love. Remake of 1931
film banned due involving prostitution. --
American production, some backdrops
painted in California, some shot in London. Lots of night shots making
car identification difficult but this looks c1932
Rolls Royce 20'25 Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1935
Harding Electric Wheelchair
Another interesting screen grab received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of photos and asking for information on
the vehicle. The photo apparently comes from the Netflix 2022 film
version of 'Lady Chatterley's Lover'. Famous story of a titled lady
going off with the gamekeeper on husband's estate.
-- A cca
1939 Harding Electric Invalid Wheelchair
by Harding of Bath initially hand-propelled invalid tricycles, later
self propelled eclectic / petrol driven. Read
more History
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939
Ford 91A Fordor Sedan
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems
to be on the lookout for unusual cars on the web, and wondered if we
knew what this one was? -- Tony
is Ford so useful starting point. Obviously a war-time military vehicle
fitted with one mandatory blackout light, with a Woman's Auxiliary
Airforce driver behind wheel and sergeant with map by a 1939 Middlesex
registered Ford. It has logos each side of the front of the bonnet
advising it is a cca 1939 Ford 91A Fordor
Sedan, deluxe version.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1950
Fiat 639/CM50 Medium Lorry
Cinema screen grab taken from Italian film "Il sergente
Rompiglioni " made 1973 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.
Story is about tough army sergeant who loves opera clashes with his
soldiers who love rock music and have formed a band. --
The vehicle is Italian lorry with military
livery. Medium Fiat lorry which came out originally for the Italian
Army as a 626 between 1939 and 1948 with 10,000 made. This one is the
updated version to cca
1950 Fiat 639/CM50 Medium Lorry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1956
Citroen 15 Familale
Another puzzling old picture posted on a forum of old
photos asking for identification of vehicles, this one apparently
photographed in Vietnmam. --
Little bit of research detrmined that this car still exists today and
that it is one of two used by a hotel in Hanoi to give excursion city
sight seeing rides to hotel guests. Both have slightly unusual badge
arrangement and seem to be very well restored. This one is marked as a cca
1956 Citroen 15 Familale and other
similar car as 1953 Citroen Car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown
Tourer
Another interesting screen grab received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum of photos and
asking for information on the vehicle.
It was suggested a possible Lancia? -- Too
Many people to be sure. The high location of the headlamps does indeed
suggest a Lambda but the low doorline not until c1921 when the louvers
became very thin and multitudinous. If Italian, could be the rather
obscure cca 1925 FATA Aurea Torpedo, but some German cars of period had
low doorline?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown
Sports Torpedo Special
Couple of enhanced photos received from Andrew Cadney (UK)
of Grandpa, George Cadney, who before WW1
was stable lad. 1914 joined 2nd Lifeguards as a trooper (saddler)
possibly with employer who joined the regiment and took some of his
staff with him. He survived and prospered being in 1918 in the Guards
Machine Gun Regiment. Demobbed and became Chauffeur probably to same
family. --
Unknown
one-off Sports Special Torpedo body on a pre-WW1 Chassis.
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