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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: cca
1904 registered Argyll Tourer
Photo received from John Hissey (UK)
whose Grandfather J J Hissey wrote 14 books on tours around Britain
pre WW1. John sent us a photo we determined is a 1906 Sunbeam, asking is
it a 1908 Argyll? He then sent us this. --
Indeed an
Argyll
but from the Registration AP 601, not a 1908 unless the numberplate was
transferred. AP 601 is an East Sussex registration issued very late
1904. This radiator and body shape did commence in 1905 and did carry
on, but square mudguards by 1908.
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FURTHER INFORMATION:1905
Boyer 10'12
Photo received from Bogdan Coconoiu (Romania)
of an Invoice issued in Bucharest in August 1905 for what he believed
was a 'Beyer' car. He could not find any info on that make. --
We have
enlarged letters 'e' and 'o' in the invoice and
are sure that 'e' in 'Beyer' is an 'o' and that the name of the car is
'Boyer'. Boyer cars were manufactured near Paris France. The latest
photo of a Boyer
I have found was 1902 model. The later '05 10'12 may have been similar
to the car sold in England as "JP".
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Possibly
cca 1907 Star Tourer
Interesting enquiry received from Roger
Paine (Canada)
with entries from a register for a "JP" car. --
Our John Warbutton feels the picture
could be a Star
and we asked for a better photo but Roger could not take it out of the
frame. We therefore cannot proceed further. "JP" cars were
made in France but sold in UK. Quite possible that the owner transferred
original 1905 number to his new car in 1906, hence same make but change
of body / engine size. - Shame it remains unresolved.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1906 Sunbeam16'20 Tourer
Photo received from John Hissey (UK)
whose Grandfather J J Hissey wrote 14 books on his tours around Britain
pre WW1. John is researching them and asks if car is an 1908 Argyle. --
Sorry No. John Warburton advises
it is a cca
1906 Sunbeam16'20 Tourer; Bruce Dowell
- Sunbeam Registrar & Historian - confirmed it, and David Hales
found records that JJH registered a khaki Sunbeam 12 February 1904 and
further khaki Sunbeam 16'20 registered AP1015 in January 1906. Wow!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1908 Maxwell Model M Tourer
Photo received from Elizabeth Adams of the
Walkertown NC Historical Society (USA).
The society is writing a pictorial history book and she is authoring the
comments on the photos which are part of a chapter on transportation.--
This is a cca 1908 Maxwell Model M
Touring. Square mudguards and central bar in the radiator point
to year. Very popular significant manufacturer who made nearly 10,000
cars in 1908. New Castle, Indiana, was then largest plant in world.
Became Chrysler Corp.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1910 Daimler 15HP Tourer
Lovely photo received from our Duch
Correspondent Fer Cools, purchased from a local flea market. --
Photo shows two cars in front of an
impressive garage block with a dovecote, too clean to be in use. Both
vehicles have no numberplates. The tyre in the centre background is
'Continental', suggesting Europe. In the UK numberplates became
compulsory in 1904 so unlikely the photo was taken in UK. This car has
carbide lamps, is very English, being a cca 1910 Daimler 15
HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Arrol-Johnston Tourer
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which
appeared in a British mini series "Wings" made in 1976,
where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. WWI storyline about
young Englishman trying to become a fighter pilot and overcoming class
prejudices. --
The car is relatively unusual being a British cca 1911 Arrol-Johnston
Tourer and wrongly identified as a Renault. Originally 'Mo-Car
Syndicate', 1905 + cars were made in Scotland by the ' New Arrol -
Johnston Car Co ', then in Paisley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1911 EMF Demi Tonneau
Photo received from Elizabeth Adams of the
Walkertown NC Historical Society (USA).
The society is writing a pictorial history book and she is authoring the
comments on the photos which are part of a chapter on transportation.--
This is a cca
1911 EMF Demi Tonneau. Difficult
to identify initially but main identifying point is guard plate just
above the running board below the rear door. EMF were trading between
1908 and 1912 and made 25,000 cars in
1911. Eventually became Studebaker.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1912 Mercedes Simplex Tourer
Photo received from our John Warburton (UK)
who received it from a friend asking identification. --
My thoughts are this is a
cca 1912 Mercedes Simplex. Both Benz
and Mercedes had round badges during 09/13 period. The three pointed
star was about 1910 so the round badge would have been some form of
Daimler badge. DMG Daimler wheelnuts had Daimler etc around the rim and
Cannstatt diagonally across the hub cap. Six section rad is typical of
the Simplex. Similar
car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1912 Cadillac 30 Four Touring
Lovely photo received from our Duch
Correspondent Fer Cools, purchased from a local flea market. --
Photo shows two cars in front of an
impressive garage block with a dovecote, too clean to be in use. Both
vehicles have no numberplates. The tyre in the centre background is
'Continental', suggesting Europe. In the UK numberplates became
compulsory in 1904 so unlikely the photo was taken in UK. Flat dash with
electric sidelights so the car is a cca 1912 Cadillac 30 Four Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1913 Peugeot Bebe Cabriolet
Photo received from Dean McCarthy (Eire)
who has been going through family photo archive and came across
this photo. The man in the photo is his Grandfather who was
supposed to have built this one "for speed". Would we know
what car it is, or is it really a home build ?
-- This
little car looks very much like it was based on a cca
1913 Peugeot Bebe Cabriolet initially
conceived by Ettore Bugatti. This would be the BP1 type. From this angle
it has no mudguards but otherwise bit standard.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1914 Oakland Light Six Speedster
Photo received from John Carr
of Brighton Colorado (USA) saying
it is a picture of a friend's grandfather's race car. They have not been
able to find anything about who made the car which they believe was
built between 1910 and 1915. --
Many pointers suggest it is probably a cca
1914 Oakland Light Six Speedster: logo
on the wheel, gap in the running board,
'bulge' forward of the rear wheel, dark section in the 'door, a
windscreen strap stay just forward of the windscreen, flat spare tyre...
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1914 Straker Squire 15'20
Photo received from Alan Barnett (UK)
which contains members of his wife's
family. Probably taken in Tooting around 1916. Any suggestions would be
very useful. --
Quite an unusual car made in Fishponds, Bristol, by a company which had
been making steam trucks and busses from 1899. Confirmed by Chris
Thomas, who has a similar car, that this is a cca
1914 Starker Squire 15'20 Two Seater,
dated by electric lighting. Company started cars in 1907 and this model
was made '11 to 14. Nice!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1920 Durkopp Tulip Bodied Phaeton
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. These are
new photos to his collection. --This
is quite a difficult one. Spitzkuhler radiator with a chisel front but
rounded profile at the side of the header tank. Only a few contenders:
Fadag, Puch and Durkopp. In view of a small square casing at the rear of
the running board, I think this is a cca
1920 Durkopp Tulip Bodied Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca 1924 Minerva Coupe Chauffeur
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which
appeared in a Belgian documentary "Publiek geheim: Impéria",
Documentary, made in 2011, where the vehicles are being investigated by
IMCDB. Storyline about the Belgian car company Imperia. --
The car is from another of a number of Belgian manufacturers. This is a
cca 1924 Minerva Coupe Chauffeur.
Minerva started in 1897 in Antwerp manufacturing bicycles, motorised
bicycles, motorcycles and then cars. Became Imperia 1934.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Perhaps
a cca 1924 Darracq
Photo received from John
Pringle (UK) asking if we can identify the
car owned by his grandfather in the 1920s. He was resident in the UK
after 1923 and apparently owned two cars, a Minerva and a Delage. They
think this might be the Minerva. The Spirit of Ecstasy emblem may be a
distraction. --
Difficult one! Not a Rolls Royce, and our experts agree it is also neither
a Minerva nor a Delage. However, two of our contributors agree on,
it could be from cca 1924/5 either Talbot or Darracq
family.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca 1926 Citroen Model C Trefle
Photo received from R H Brooks (UK)
of a car in front of Summerley Barn Cafe
Felpham,
which is near Bognor Regis in Sussex. The quality of the card isn't
great as it is probably the best part of 100 years old, but he hopes we
will be able to identify the vehicle. --
The registration appears to be YM 8163 which was issued by London County
Council. The car is French possibly built in Slough UK as is RHD. The
flat area directly behind the driver indicates that it is a 'Trefle', cca
1926 Citroen Model C.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1926 Riley 11'40 Sports
Photo received from Dean McCarthy (Eire)
who has been going through family photo archive and came across
this photo. The man in the photo is his Grandfather, a bit of a car nut,
and the photo was taken in the garden of their house in Dublin. He
believes the car on right is a Riley which would have been registered
between 1903 and 1927. --
The car on the right is indeed a Riley,
a cca
1926 Riley 11/40 Two Seater Sports. IK
9321 was Dublic CC registration of late 1926. Cost in 1926 £495
new!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1927 Delage Salon
Photo received from Dean McCarthy (Eire)
who has been going through family photo archive and came across
this photo. The man in the photo is his Grandfather. He believes the car
on the left is a Wolseley 15, registered between' 27 and '40.
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Not a Wolseley nor a Sunbeam but a 1927
Delage Saloon. The Marchal headlamps on
stalks are the pointer. The badge is central on a very narrow header
tank which suggests a D6 saloon; D1 saloons had a slightly taller tank.
Z 275 is early 1927 Dublin.!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: cca1927 Hispano Suiza Sedanca de
Ville
Another very interesting period photo
received from Malcolm Fare (UK)
who is writing a history of the parish of Hanley Castle and
saying he would be grateful to know what make of vehicle is
shown. -- Regretfully
very grainy photo could not be improved so we cannot be absolutely
positive on the identification. Possibly pre'30 Delage, but our John
Warburton thinks, and we agree, probably a French cca
1927 Hispano Suiza 37.2HP Sedanca de Ville,
coachwork probably by Kellner of Paris.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
FIAT 509A Spyder
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. These are
new photos to his collection. -- Nice
to note that his new collection of Romanian cars includes another
European car. Photos received so far, were all generally of American
cars. This
photo shows a Italian made car from Turin: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili
Torino. This looks a cca
1927 Fiat 509A Two Seater Spyder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1928 Pontiac Sport Phaeton
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. These are
new photos to his collection. --This
one was identified by our friend Mark Dawber in New Zealand via the AACA.
The identification feature is the twiddly molding on the cowl just
forward and below the windscreen. Typical of a cca
1928 Pontiac Sport Phaeton four door,
this one with optional disc wheels. General Motors C.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1930 Nash Touring
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. These are
new photos to his collection. --This
was also not easy and needed the help of AACA. The enclosed wheel hub
arrangement is quite specific and only seems to fit a short period. The
car is a cca
1930/31 Nash. Most Nashes were saloons
so this is Tourer/Convertible or Phaeton. Looks relatively small so
probably a Six.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930
Citroen AC6 Cabriolet
One more of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. These are
new photos to his collection. -- Nice
to note that his new collection of Romanian cars includes a European
car. Photos received so far, were all generally of American cars. This
photo shows a French car made in Paris, namely a cca
1930 Citroen AC6 Cabriolet.
Citroen
was the first mass producer of cars in Europe in 1919.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca 1936 Morris Eight Saloon
Photo received from Richard Steel (UK)
of a car at an unknown location but
featuring a cousin who had just arrived in England in June 1937. Could
we identify the car? --
The registration appears to be AAP 420 which was issued by County
Council of East Sussex. The car is English and inspired by the shape of
the Ford Model Y. This is a Series I 1936
Morris Eight Two Door Saloon. Very
popular car of which over 164,000 were manufactured between
1935 and 1938, powered by a 918cc SV.
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