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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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Below relates to enquiries received during
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Pullman 20Hp Light Touring
In 2008 we received an enquiry we could
not immediately recognise. After much searching we assumed American and
asked our friends at the AACA in America for their suggestions. They
put it on their Forum Page But regretfully not much ensued. --
Fast Forward 16 years, - and we have now in 2023 been advised via the
services of Varun Couthinho that this is a cca
1907 Pullman 20Hp Model E Light Touring from
York Motor Co, which became in 1909 Pulman Motor Co. SEE
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909
Argyll 14'16 Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos and asking for information
on the make of vehicles on NZ facebook page. Possibly a 1906
Argyll? -- Lovely location for photo; pity about
the quality. Two noticeable pointers, drag link ahead of axle and
curved scuttle. Yes Argyll from Scotland, but scuttle suggests 1910 and
link latest 1909, longish bonnet so medium car, this would be a cca
1909 Argyll Tourer, 12'14 or probably
14'16HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
c1909 Zedel Rebuilt Spercial
Another puzzling photo from the late
Desmond Peacock (UK) collection asking for information on make of
vehicle. -- Seems round radiator with hump on top, limiting choice. Our
Ariejan Bos thinks a relatively recent, 1950's or 1960's, restoration
indicated by the modern vintage tyres. French Zedel seemed to be a nice
possibility. My thoughts from unusual rear arrangements, possibly a cca
1909 Zedel Taxi with earlier bonnet
and possibly converted to look older and like a rakey racer runabout.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Dealunay Belleville HB4 Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos and asking for information
on the make of vehicles in Zaragoza Spain c1910 difficult to enlarge.
Another D-B IA6? -- Yes French Delaunay
Belleville from difficult angle, but seems to have a shortish round
bonnet, very much wider exaggerated bottom offset of the smallish
matrix circle which is not of the I series but of the H series.
Probably the cca
1911 Delaunay Belleville Tourer, the HB4.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Dealunay Belleville IA6 Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from The AACA forum of old photos and asking for information
on the make of car. -- Another French Delaunay Belleville and yes
it seems the IA Model. No sight of the round radiato4 but does have the
saddle petrol tank. Easier to tell from photo that it has the longer
radiator length of a six cylinder car so this would be a cca1911
Delaunay Belleville IA6 Tourer. 'The
car of the Tsar', Nicholas of Russia
had lots.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Dealunay Belleville HB4 Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos and asking for information
on the make of vehicles. Is it Delaunay Belleville IA6. --
Yes French Delaunay Belleville and no, the HB Model. Very much wider
bottom offset of the rad matrix circle suggests c1911.
Slightly difficult to tell from photo angle as to the radiator length,
if a four or a six; but on consideration probably smaller four cylinder cca1912
Delaunay Belleville HB4 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Calthorpe 12’15 Tourer
Another puzzling photo from the late
Desmond Peacock (UK) collection
asking for information on make of vehicle. --
Round radiator with a tall hump on the top above rad line limits
choice. Tapered bonnet, this is a British Birmingham built cca
1911 Calthorpe 12'15 Tourer owned by
an Irish family in Ireland for many years in original condition but
then restored. This very distinct humped radiator was used between 1908
and 1913 and was also used on their very successful competition cars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Peugeot 127 Two-Seater
Interesting period photo received from John Bath (UK) from a
friend who has not been able to get a firm ID for it...at least so far.
It has a very distinctive radiator badge which might help --Unusually
big badge which narrows field and time period down considerably. Front
of the car suggests French but the body may be British. Size of the car
is medium large and large number of details strongly point to it being
a cca
1911 Peugeot 127 Two-Seater with 10HP
2 litre four and four speed gearbox.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Ford Model T Touring
Interesting old photo received from John Nelmes (UK?)
asking to identify the car owned by his great-grandfather while
living in Angola from 1899-1915. He was French so it may have been a
Hurtu? -- Does not have a dashboard radiator so
regret not Hurtu (licenced Leon Bollee), and also not French, but made
in Detroit America. No visible springs or dumbirons; this is one of the
early Model T Fords. From having a driver's door earliest date, a cca
1912 Ford Model T Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Haynes 50HP Model 23 Touring
In 2008 we received an enquiry we could not immediately
recognise. Assumed American so asked friends at AACA for
suggestions. They put it on their Forum Page but no answers. --
Fast Forward 16 years, - and we have now in 2023 been advised via the
services of Varun Coutinho on the AACA Forum that this is a
1913 Haynes
50HP Model 23 Touring built by Haynes Apperson, later Haynes Auto, in
Kokomo, Indiana, 1905 to 1924. Breakaway Apperson Co also finished in
1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Case 30HP Model U Touring
In 2008 we received an enquiry we could not immediately
recognise. Assumed American so asked friends at AACA for
suggestions. They put it on their Forum Page but no answers. --
Fast Forward 16 years, - and we have now in 2023 been advised via the
services of Varun Coutinho on the AACA Forum that this is a 1913
Case Model U 30HP Touring, built by
J.I. Case Threshing Machine Co after buying Pierce Racine. Continued in
tractors. merging with International Harvester.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Bugatti Type 23 Boat Tail Torpedo
Another puzzling photo from the late
Desmond Peacock (UK) collection asking for information on the make of
vehicle photographed at a British Motor Show. Shaken white sheet
background. -- Pretty German car like the
Peugeot Bebe, not surprising as designed by same man, ex De Dietrich
and ex Deutz, Consultant and also designing his Type 10 in his
basement. A German cca
1914 Bugatti Type 23 Boat Tail Torpedo,
body by German coachbuilder Widerkehr of Colmar. READ
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Calcott 10.5 Two-seater
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos and asking for information
on the make of vehicleso in Lyll Bay, Wellington, New Zealand. Three in
foreground, left is a c1915 and the third a c1915-16 Ford T. What is
the little car in middle, Calthorpe, Calcott?? --
Agree on Overland and Ford T. Middle rad is more shouldered and does
not seem centrally circular, so car is probably similarly bodied a cca
1914 Calcott 10.5 Two-seater light car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915
International Harvester AW
Another photo received from Jorge Tardeno (Madeira)
found on the web and wondered how come this vehicle, make not advised,
was made ten years after Rolls Royce had made the Silver Ghost. -
Horses for courses. This Auto Wagon 'high wheeler' was made for
non-existent roads in deep backwater farming USA in 1915 by an
agricultural farm machinery company International
Harvester. Silver
Ghost was made in 1907 by Royce for
Rolls to sell to gentry on cobbled roads of London.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918
international Harvester Model G
Another interesting photo from a forum of photos and asking for
information on the make of vehicle which was a part of a n Exhibition
of Fire Fighting Equipment believed in USSR in 1923. --
Coalscuttle bonnet hinged off scuttle radiator and solid tyres, common
feature on lorries from Europe and USA. The distinguishing feature here
seems to be the wide hinge, no louvers and the rounded front which very
much suggests an American cca
1918 international Harvester Bullnose Model G 2 ton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919
Citroen Model A Torpedo
Another puzzling photo from the late
Desmond Peacock (UK) collection asking for information on the make of
vehicle. This seems to have been a postcard.
-- Known publicity photo taken by a Citroen photographer of the very
first Citroen Type A photographed by the entrance to the Citroen's new
Quai de Javel Factory. Citroen
started with the Type A in 1919. Photo
below shows whole photo and inset is same car after restoration at the
factory 1933 after 300,000 km. SEE
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923
Standard SLO4 Tourer
Rather crowded damaged photo received from Tony Tomlin (UK)
entitled 'Goodsell Brothers sons of Henry & Virginia', definition
is not great but the radiator top is a clearly shown. Hope you can
help. -- We have slightly repaired photo which is
of a British car made in Coventry. No registration visible to help with
accurate dating but from wrap-round radiator matrix and curved humpy
rad top, this a cca
1923 Standard SLO4 Tourer 13.9HP with
a 1944cc four engine (model made 1922-26).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927
Chrysler Imperial 80 Roadster
Photo from a forum from Rodrigo Ricard and asking for
information on the make of vehicle. Suggestion of Vauxhall Hurlingham. --
No, not from General Motors UK empire as Vauxhall, despite typically
Vauxhall type flutes on the bonnet. This one is from the
opposition, as the top-of-the-range car from Chrysler made in
Maxwell factory and recognisable by the fluted bonnet. This is cca
1927 Chrysler Imperial 80 Roadster
introduced 1926. Imperial name remaining flagship to 2006.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931
Chrysler 77 Sedan
Lovely period photo received from 'GabsGrandad' (UK)
of a car
that used to belong to Father-in-Law when he was a young man, probably
some 70+ years ago. Can we identify vehicle? --
The registration was issued by the County Borough Council of Leeds in
Yorkshire UK in 1933 but the car is from Highland Park, Detroit, USA,
being an earlier made
cca 1931 Chrysler 77
Sedan. Chrysler had taken
over Doge and thus did have an assembly plant in Fulham, but 'knock
downn kit' commercials.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931
Morris Minor Van
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from The AACA forum of old photos and asking for information
on the make of car. Morris Minor Van? -- Yes
indeed a Morris Minor van. The 'minor' concept started with the Morris
Cowley Bullnose van of 1919 and carried on into the flatnose in 1926
with same engine. New chassis in 1931 which introduced wire wheels,
plain black rad, bumper bar and tapering scuttle, which would suggest post cca
1931 Morris Minor Van.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932
Renault Reinastella Coupe
Cinema screen grab taken from French film "Trois de
Saint-Cyr" made 1939 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. --
Story is about thre Cadets in a prestigious French Military Academy at
the time prior to WW2 shown as a propaganda film on the strength of the
French army; in three parts, second part in Syria, shot in Tunisia. The
car seems to be a big bonneted front rad Renault with extra large spare
tyre, two window so likely a
cca 1932 Reinastella Coupe or the smaller
Vivastella.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934
Morris Minor Two Door Saloon
Another Interesting period family photo received from Bob
Knowles (UK), this one of his father's first car. --
The registration BG 2534 was issued by Birkenhead CBC (Liverpool) in
1934. The car is interesting in not having wing sidelights, which was
standard practice. Chrome radiator and chrome bodyline over scuttle, as
well as full mudguards confirm this is one of the last of a line, a cca
1934 Morris Minor Two Door Saloon,
847cc sidevalve four speed, hydraulic brakes and dampers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934
Wolseley Niner Saloon
Another interesting photo from Rootschat forum of photos and
asking for information on make of vehicle. Various suggestions put
forward. --We can confirm that this car, without
visible registration, but with eight-louvre bonnet has hallmarks of
Wolseley Nine made November 1933 and April 1935.
Wolseley started by Vickers under MD Herbert Austin, who left to found
Austin. Wolseley in 1906 was UK largest manufacturer, but by 1927 was
the private property of William Morris.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938
SS Jaguar 2.5 L Saloon
Another interesting photo from Rootschat forum of photos and
asking for information on make of vehicle. Various suggestions put
forward. --We can confirm that this car, with
numberplate AVY 731 was registered at York County Borough Council in
late 1938. The car was made by the Swallow Sidecar Co, founded 1922,
later in 1934 renamed SS Cars Ltd, which made the sportstourer badged
as cca
1938 SS Jaguar 2.5 L Saloon. Very
similar car with 3.5L engine was the SS Jaguar 100 Sports.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1970 Serpukhov
S-3a Invalid Cyclecar
Another interesting photo from a forum of
photos and asking for information on make of vehicle. Various
suggestions put forward. --Difficult to
say precisely where photo taken because shop signs and car
numberplates are in both Cyrillic and Latinic alphabets. Car appears a
Taxi but seems only a two-seater. Was difficult to identify, not a ZAZ
Zaporozhets, but can finally advise it is a Russian cca
1959 Serpukhov
S-3a Invalid Cyclecar issued free to
the disabled. SEE
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