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[ SVVS NATIONAL
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SERVICE ]
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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed
cars are in year order:
Page 42 below relates to enquiries received
during
2011. Click
on picture to enlarge
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1904
Minerva 5HP Minervette
Another Photo received from Job van Huizen
(Holland) asking if
the SVVS could help him identify this car. It took part in Circuit des
Ardennes Commémoration in 2008. --
Our Tim Harding confirms this is a
cca 1904 Minerva 5HP known as the
Minervette. Manufactured by Société Anonyme Minerva Motors in Berchem,
Antwerp, Belgium. Volume car production began in 1904. Charles Rolls was
the UK agent, most important market. A Keiserpreis 8L Minerva won
1907 Ardennes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1905
Humber Royal Humerette
One of three photos received from Gordon
Jamieson (UK)
asking if we can identify the cars. They all belonged to
his great-grandfather who had a bicycle shop on The Wirral in Cheshire.
His first car, bought in 1904, was a curved dash Oldsmobile. These cars
came later. By 1911, he described himself on the census return as a
cycle and motor agent. --
Registration K 222 was Liverpool CBC,
but dating data lost, and the car is cca
1905 Humber Royal Humberette 6.5 HP Two Seater,
Beeston.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: SVVS
HELP PAGES HIT 1,000 Enquiries
We are very pleased to announce that we
have today hit a very important milestone in our service to the
International Web Community by providing our 1,000th identification.
This was reached on 19th November 2011. We would like to thank all
international contributors who have sent us their enquiries, and we
would especially like to thank our team of SVVS experts, our external experts
and also the many international experts who have provided
identifications in last 10 years.
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1,000th ENQUIRY !!!
1,000th ENQUIRY !!!
1,000th ENQUIRY !!!
1,000th ENQUIRY !!!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Aries Double Phaeton
Appropriately fascinating photo, as
the 1,000th enquiry, was received from
Eileen Stokes (UK). Eileen has no
link with the photo except that
she knows it was almost certainly taken in Germany. --
The general shape of the radiator suggests
De Dion, which it is not, but it does have a very French influence. From
the circular shape of the bottom of the radiator core with axle notches
in the panel below, this is most certainly a cca 1906 Aries
Double Phaeton made in Curbevoie, by Paris, France.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Humber 16HP Landaulette
Nice period photo received from Alan
Griffin (UK) who
is assembling a Leamington Scrapbook and intends to use this
photograph on the front cover. It would be really good to identify the
car as he knows who the chauffeur was. He will then visit the County
Record Office in Warwick and look up the original taxation details for
the owner. --
Registration AC 1712 is indeed Warwick
County Council, Spring of 1910. The car is a
cca 1910 Humber Landaulette, probably
the 16HP, or perhaps the 12HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Unic C'P Tourer
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a French mini series "Les dames de la cote" made in
1979, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of three
families whose lives will be disrupted by WW1. --
The vehicle is a very nice cca 1912
Unic C/P. Unic was a French car made in
Puteaux near Paris by Georges Richard after he left Richard-Brasier and
became financed by Baron De Rothschild. Unic became famous for their
sturdy Taxis, and made trucks to 1980s.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Rover Twelve Tourer
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British TV mini-series "A woman of substance" made in
1984, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story
about a woman rags to riches rise and attempts of kids to remove her
from her business. --
The car is a rather nice cca
1913 Rover Twelve Tourer designed by
the famous Owen Clegg who came from Wolseley in 1910 and developed the
2.2L L-head monobloc four, worm final drive, and
electric lighting.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Rambler Cross Country Touring
Interesting hand coloured postcard received
from Tom Cosens (UK) asking
if we can identify the car, possibly German. Postcards are German but he
has no other background. --
The car shown on this postcard is not
German but American. It is a cca
1913 Rambler Cross Country Touring
built in Kenosha, Wisconsin by a company founded by Thomas B Jeffery,
earlier the second biggest maker of bicycles in USA. On his death that
year, the son renamed the car and company 'Jeffery'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
Protos Taxi and 1914 Renault
Another fascinating photo received from Aad
Streng (Holland) which
he has found of taxis near the railway station in Apeldoorn in the
Netherlands. At least one of them was owned by his grandfather, namely
the one with numberplate M-26576. It is possible others were also owned
by the family. He had no idea on the brands of the vehicles lined
up. -- We
have split the lie-up into three separate photos to give better
detail (L to R) : 1914
Protos Taxi and 1914 Renault Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1919
Mercedes Knight 16'45 Tourer
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
This is a panoramic view of a
medal ceremony at an aerodrome. The planes are of the 1919 military
'pusher' type, with propellers behind the guns. The front car is cca
1919 Mercedes Knight 16'45 Tulip Bodied Tourenwagen.
These used Knight sleeve valve engines patented in England 1908, and used
by Daimler, and 30 others.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Humber 10HP Tourer
One of three photos received from Gordon
Jamieson (UK)
asking if we can identify the cars. They all belonged to
his great-grandfather who had a bicycle shop on The Wirral in Cheshire.
His first car was a curved dash Oldsmobile. By 1911, on the census return
he was a
cycle and motor agent. -- Three
of our experts recon this is a
cca 1920 Humber Tourer. I have some
reservations because this is a very unusual body for a
Humber, unusual mudguards, and only two louvres in the bonnet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
Salvador Cyclecar
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a Spanish film "Inconscientes"
(Unconscious) made in 2004, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB.
Period comedy about a Freudian psychiatrist who ran away from
home. --
The car is very unusual and only few were made. Spanish film with other
Spanish cars, this one with double transverse springs, no front brakes,
two seater, and largish logo left top of rad, all says Spanish 1922
Salvador Cyclecar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Chevrolet Charabanc
Nice period photo received from Sid
Breeden, Perth (Australia)
taken
outside his grandparents shop in Busselton (on Geographe Bay near Cape
Naturaliste). He thinks his mother and sisters are passengers.
-- The The photo
is a bit fuzzy but we are relatively sure it is a cca
1923 Chevrolet Charabanc. The badge on
the rad seems to be repeated just below the windscreen. Seems a
bit long for a car so may well be 1 ton truck chassis. The
bodywork is very smart indeed, - and probably local.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1924
Buick Touring & 1924 Citroen B2
Another fascinating photo received from Aad
Streng (Holland) which
he has found of taxis near the railway station in Apeldoorn in the
Netherlands. At least one of them was owned by his grandfather, namely
the one with numberplate M-26576. It is possible others were also owned
by the family. He had no idea on the brands of the vehicles lined
up. -- We
have split the lie-up into three photos to give better detail (L-R):1924
Buick Touring Phaeton & 1924 Citroen B2 Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925
Sunbeam 20/60 Saloon
Interesting point raised by Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) about
the maroon saloon car used in the recent TV Series Downton Abbey. The
series was set just at the end of WW1 yet the car and the registration
was mid 1920s. This would seem to be an error ? --
Yes! The
car is a 1925
Sunbeam 20/60 Saloon which carries a period
registration that was not original to the car. Car carries a monogram on
the bulkhead, as does the original. The 20/60 Sunbeam was made 1924 -
27, and 3181cc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Pontiac Two Door Coach
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
This one shows a car in front of a rather
magnificent Constanta Municipal Casino. Our NZ expert Mark Dawber
confirms from the waistline this is a cca
1926 Pontiac Two Door Coach built by
General Motors. Introduced as a make in that year, it was named after an
Odawa Indian Chief (1720-1769) who fought the British at Fort Detroit.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Ford T & 1927 Essex Sedan
Another fascinating photo received from Aad
Streng (Holland) which
he has found of taxis near the railway station in Apeldoorn in the
Netherlands. At least one of them was owned by his grandfather, namely
the one with numberplate M-26576. It is possible others were also owned
by the family. He had no idea on the brands of the vehicles lined
up. -- We
have split the lie-up into three separate photos to give better
detail (L to R) : 1927
Ford Model T Tudor and 1927 Essex Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Gardner 125 Phaeton
Gorgeous photo received from Ingrid
Figueroa (USA)
taken in Guatemala around 1942. Her husband, shown with his family, was
born in 1938 and looks to be around four years old. They believe the car
was from the early 1930s. --
Really impressive phaeton built in St
Louis, Missouri by Russell Gardner " beautifully and strikingly
styled". Initially building buggies, then assembling and selling
Chevrolets before making own car. Thanks to AACA, this is a cca
1929 Gardner Phaeton, poss 125.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
DeSoto K Series Phaeton
Yet another lovely photo received
from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. --
This one shows the continuing love that
humans have for dogs, and that Romanians love them too, two dogs in the
picture! Also shows the love Romanians, like the rest of us, had for
swimming. The car, with help from Mark Dawber, is a cca 1929 DeSoto K
Series, probably a Roadster or Phaeton.
Car made by the Chrysler Corporation.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Armstrong Siddeley 15
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British-American film "The Saint's
Vacation" made in 1941, where the vehicles are being investigated by
IMCDB. Simon Templar, roving crimefighter who walks the fine edge
of the law, does his things against Nazis in WW2.
-- The car is
relatively unusual. Right
hand drive, British style sidelights, Sphynx on the top of radiator,
higher main lights, adjacent door handles, pre-vee-rad; all say cca
1929 Armstrong Siddeley 15.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930s
Tatras and Essex
One of a number of photos received from
Vlado (Croatia)
via The Society of Automotive Historians in Britain asking if we can identify the cars.
-- From
numberplates photo probably not taken in the former Yugoslavia
but does seem to
have a very interesting mix of cars. The first six white cars on the left are
all Tatras from Czechoslovakia and the two black cars are American
Essex; specifically 1930 Tatra 30,
mix of 1936 Tatra 79s and 1932 Tatra 57s, and right, 1931
Essex Super Six.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932
Austin Light 12/6 Saloon
Couple of photos received from Peter
Lanigan (UK) who
is trying to date them. Believes the car was then fairly new. --
Registration is unclear and is suggesting
late twenties, so not much help. The 'Six' indicates that it had a 6
cylinder engine rather than four. This is a cca 1932
Austin Light 12/6 Saloon. These were
made 1931 - 34 and were available in two versions; 13.9 and 15.9
HP. The caravan is very much of the advanced early 1930s
style and is possibly a Winchester.
Interesting locations.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936
Hudson 64 Touring Sedan
One of a number of photos received from
Vlado (Croatia)
via The Society of Automotive Historians in Britain asking if we can identify the cars.
-- From news kiosk
in the background it is possible to determine that this photo was taken in the former Yugoslavia,
probably Croatia. The car in front of a coffee house originates from
Detroit, Michigan, USA, being a cca
1936 Hudson 64 Touring Sedan. In 1937
the front door hinged at front rather than rear. Small chrome wheelhubs
suggest 'Six'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937
Renault Celtaquatre Saloon
Slightly grainy photo received from Goran
Persson (Sweden)
taken in the wilds of Northern Sweden in 1948. He is the baby and would
like to know what the car was.
-- The photo
is a bit fuzzy but the car is a Renault. This was a period when
many European cars had the American airflow look. Renault followed the
trend and had three body shapes including the Prima. and Nova. which
are quite similar. Allowing for the fuzzy photo, we think this is
a cca
1937/38 Renault Celtaquatre Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937
Chervrolet Master Sedan
Photo received from Pricilla Burcher (Colombia)
asking if we recognize the car and model of
the photo. Dating from 1936 to 1942. Her father is the guy who is
outside the car (he was a British citizen). The photo was taken in
Medellín, Colombia. -- We
can confirm, with the help of AACA, that this is a cca
1937 Chevrolet Master Sedan. New
styling for this year with a streamline groove carries from the wings
onto the doors, and grille swept in on each side. Simpler trim suggests
the GB 4 Door Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1939
Hanomag Type 13 Saloon
One of a number of photos received from
Vlado (Croatia)
via The Society of Automotive Historians in Britain asking if we can identify the cars.
-- The shops in
the background suggest former Yugoslavia,
probably Croatia. The photo is low resolution so the group of cars on
the left was initially thought to be E. German IFAs, but the roof
rib and the absence of a quater-light window defines that they are W.
German cca
1939 Hanomag Type 13 1.3L Saloons.
Only some 9,187 manufactured.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
 YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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