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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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below relates to enquiries received during
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1901
La Nef Tricycle
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos largely dealing with postcards depicting motoring
and local
French garages. -- This
curious device was made in France in Agen not far from Spanish border
by Joseph Lacroix who made the tricycle prototype 1898 calling it La
Nef (boat) from the pointed prow. Belt
driven, it was powered by De Dion Bouton Engines of various sizes of
2.5 to 8HP and about 200 made in similar form to 1914.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Clement 9HP Tonneau
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos largely dealing with postcards depicting motoring
and local
French garages. -- Humpy rad and
black blob in centre of matrix is a good indicator to a car made by
Adolphe Clement but which one of his companies is a little bit more
difficult. Wide hump and the linear badge suggests this is one of the
earliest
cca 1903 Clement 9HP Tonneau before the company became Clement
Bayard.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904
Adler Tourer
Another puzzling photograph recerived from our regular
contributor Par Sorliden (Sweden) who generally sends us photos we have
great difficulties with. -- Fortunately
we have the help of our Dutch veterans expert Ariejan Bos who advises a
cca
1904 Adler, recognisable from filler
cap assembly. Adler was a German company 1900 to 1950 based in
Frankfurt initially using De Dion engines, became mainstream building
front wheel drive cars, motorcycles, also typewriters and calculators.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905
Clement Bayard 12 HP Tonneau
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos largely dealing with postcards depicting motoring
and local
French garages. -- Humpy rad and
black blob in centre of matrix is a good indicator to a car made by
Adolphe Clement, as does shop window. The badge on the hump appears to
be rectangular, which suggests this was made by the French end of later
Anglo-French cca
1905 Clement Bayard 12 HP Tonneau,
available in UK.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905
Griffon 35cc Motorcycle
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos largely dealing with postcards depicting motoring
and local French garages. --
What bike? Shop window suggests Griffon and a bit
more research confirms it a cca
1905 Griffon 2.7HP 353cc Single Motorcycle with
a Swiss Zedel engine made by company founded by Eugene Peugeot.
Interesting additional business being mechanics, locksmiths, sewing
machine servicing, and bells.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Cadillac Model G Limousine
Another puzzling photograph recerived from our regular
contributor Par Sorliden (Sweden) who generally sends us photos we have
great difficulties with. -- Fortunately
we have the help of our Dutch veterans expert Ariejan Bos who advises
this is a cca
1907-8 Cadillac Model G, not a very
common model. Originally based on the Model D, then H and L, the G was
a smaller Model H. It had a four cylinder engine and was marketed as
the 'one cylinder Cadillac with four cylinders', 20HP > 25.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Vulcan 20HP Side Entrance
Lovely photo received from our Member and auto historian Nicholas Young
(UK) author encyclopedia
'Car Number Classics' on histories of original cars/owners of first
registrations in UK. --
B 400 was issued by Lancaster CC, dating info not
kept by CC, to a Thomas Saul Engineer and Surveyor of Lytham. Difficult
car to identify , advised by our Ariejan Bos as a
cca 1907 Vulcan 20HP Side Entrance Tonneau,
made Southport, near Liverpool. Cars 1902, later lorries, various owner
changes to 1953.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Unic Landaulette Taxi
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos asking for ID; Captioned 'Chatenay Malabry,
voiture de marque Doyle'. -- Chatenay
Malabry is a south suburb Paris. Cannot find Doyle in any of my encyclopedias
but rad looks familiar. Ariejan Bos advises c1908
Unic with rad shape, normally used for
taxis. Perhaps badge engineering. Unclear if a taxi (no visible
taxaxmeter) or perhaps hire car. Reg with G8 was used by other Unic
taxis of this type.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
SATME Electric Tricycle
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from forum of old
photos dealing with postcards depicting motoring. --
Another curious device which appears to be
electrically powered and possibly having five claimants as to make. Two
are German and marginally different from the three French who all use
same photo in their ads: Teddy, Touvelin and
cca 1912 SATME (later one
in Georgano). Carry 300 kg, two-speed to 31kph, also available as
two-seat torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Mors 12CV Torpedo
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos asking for identification. Humpy bonnet? -- Lots
of cars had a humpy bonnet but the hump characteristics and the
trailing part of the bonnet differed considerably. On this, the hump
converts to a tapered humped bonnet and the car carries what appears a
military type number, so likely of the WW1 period. This is likely a cca
1913 Mors 12CV Torpedo designed in the
Citroen management period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Cornilleau 10HP Saloon
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos largely dealing with postcards depicting local
French garages.-- Very unusual French car
made in Asniers, close centre of Paris by
Automobiles Cornilleau. Not
much is known about company apart from operating 1912-14, making an
8'10 two-stroke, and two fours 10CV and 12CV. Elsewhere a Gustave
Cornilleau of Guedon who sold design to first Decauville, then later
going into pumps.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Apperson Jack Rabit Touring
Lovely photo received from our Member and auto historian Nicholas Young
(UK) author encyclopedia
'Car Number Classics' on histories of original cars/owners of first
registrations in UK. -- DN2
was the second registration issued by York CBC in 1904 to Alfred
Jackson, a jeweller and put on a 1904 De Dion Bouton Vis-à-vis, active
in the York Motor Club. In 1914 transferred to an unusual American car
from Kokomo Indiana, a cca
1914 Apperson Jack Rabbit V 8. Reg now
seen on Tesla!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915
Ford Model T Surrey
Cinema screen grab taken from various French TV Series
"Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90 where cars are being investigated
by IMCDB. Series was based on Maurice Leblanc's gentleman master thief
Arsène Lupin who was featured in over 50 stories starting in 1905. --
American car which has a visible traverse
front sprin, which points to a Model T Ford. It has rectangular
radiator rather than rounded, has electric lights and curios bodywork,
all adding up to cca
1915 Ford Model T Surrey.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915
Hupmobile Model K Touring
Very puzzling photo received from Andy
Humphries (UK) of a relative believed photographed in Birmingham
1920/30s. Can we identify make of car? --
The badge on this one has puzzled for the
second time requiring help from our Mark Dawber in NZ. He reminded that
this badge was used for only one year and that this is a cca
1915 Hupmobile Model K Touring. Should
have pursued the very tall filler cap as a give-away (see
Help Page 109) Later badges were
a more helpful letter H.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1918 White Model 40 Truck
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos taken in Kaponga, in Taranaki, New Zealand before
1925. Trucks,- Albions? -- Immediate
thought was no, and Mark later came back that it is probably an
American truck, a White; - which was my first thought. Bit more
research confirmed from the wheels and front bumper that the vehicle on
the right is a cca
1918 White Model 40,
and left possibly later 20. Cars are c20 Hudson and c16 Dodge Tourers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919
FIAT 505 Torpedo
Cinema screen grab from one of the French
TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90,. cars being researched by IMCDB.
-- Italian
car made in Turin by Fabbrica Italiana di Automobili di Torino formed
in 1899 by Giovanni Agnelli who was also the Mayor of nearby town of
Villar Perosa most of his life and as friend of Benito Mussolini,
dubbed collaborator after WW2. The radiator of this car is bellshaped
and the badge on rad is oval so this is about WW1 and likely a cca
1919 FIAT 505 Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923
Peugeot 172 Quadrilette
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos asking for ID from a postcard of old French
garages. -- The
car is registered DU, for Douai, in northern France, not far from
Belgium. It was a very popular French vehicle which started out as a
narrow cyclecar 1921 with tandem (one behind other) seating, powered by
a four cylinder 9HP 667cc engine. This is the slightly later
side-by-side version of cca 1923 Peugeot 172 Quadrilette Two
Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924
Citroen B10 Torpedo
Cinema screen grab from one of the French
TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90, cars being re
searched by IMCDB. --
The car is French, made in Paris at Quai
de Javel on which in 1915 was rapidly constructed a massive arms
factory complex by a reserve artillery officer Captain Andre Citroen
after complaining being short of ammunition for 7mm field gun. At end
of WW1 in 1919 factory needed something to build so Andre Citroen
decided on cars. This is a cca
1924 Citroen B10 Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1925
Talbot Darracq Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from various
French TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90 where cars are
being investigated by IMCDB. Series was based on Maurice Leblanc's
gentleman master thief Arsène Lupin who was featured in over 50
stories starting in 1905. - The car with a
mixed pedigree being made in Franceby a French company owned by a
British organisation which became Sunbeam Talbot Darraq, which became
Rootes. This is cca
1925 Talbor Darracq Saloon, poss DC.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929
Karrier Colt Transporter
Another interesting photo found during research of the SATME
item above being little similar to Scammell "Mechanical
Horse". -- Further
research determined this was in fact an earlier version designed by
Karrier Motors of Huddersfield, successors to Clayton &Co 1908,
makers of cars and charabancs and Subsidy WW1 military vehicles. The
Karrier Colt with a Jowett engine was
developed in 1929 for Huddersfield as Dust Carts and later as 'Cob'
railway deliveries. Scammel versions 1934.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930
Renault Vivasix 16 CV Limousine
Cinema screen grab from one of the French
TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90,. cars being researched by IMCDB.
-- The
car is French, with a sccuttleyy bonnet, but notable by having the
radiator at the front of the car, so is a bit more simple to date. It
also has thin grille Louvres, it has a small visor, it has thin three
way headlamp supports, has six windows, centre handles so centrally
opening doors, solid looking body, all of which suggests this a cca
1930 Renault Vivasix 16 CV Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932
Studebaker S Series Truck
Cinema screen grab taken from various
French TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90 where cars are
being investigated by IMCDB. Series was based on Maurice Leblanc's
gentleman master thief Arsène Lupin who was featured in over 50
stories starting in 1905. --
This unusual vehicle is American, being a cca
1932 Studebaker S Series Truck with a
removals box body sign-written Vandergoten. Vandergoten moving business
started with horses in 19th century Brussels, Belgium.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937
Scammell Mechanical Horse
As a result of the above Karrier Colt item, we looked a
little deeper into the Scammel. -- The
Scammell
Mechanical Horse was manufactured in
1934 by Scammell Lorries who had actually purchased the design for the
three wheeled vehicle from the Napier Car Co. as a tractor/trailer unit
to help or to replace the horse for local deliveries from railway
stations. It came as 3 or 6 ton, own engine. Made in France as FAR with
a Citroen Traction Avant engine. Replaced by Scammell Scarrab in 1948.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1952
Renault Coroale Taxi
Cinema screen grab from French
Film "Escuela de periodismo" made in 1956 where cars are
being researched by IMCDB. Students of journalism getting interviews
with celebrities like bullfighters. - Unusual
French car which has the frontal appearance of a Renault 4 but bigger
and boxier. This is from a range of three models made 1950'1957 of the
Renault Coroale; 4 door Prarie, 2 door Savane, and this
1950-52 Renault
Coroale Taxi. More popular in French colonies than were home.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: UNKNOWN
C1913 Two-Seater
Another interesting photo received
from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from
a forum of old photos largely dealing with postcards depicting motoring
and local
French garages. -- Another
curious vehicle none of our experts have been able to identify. The car
is very likely French and from the period immediately before WW1. It
has a pronounced 'saddle' petrol tank, steep scuttle, and a dickey seat
back seat, so is a two-seater. Saddle tanks were popular at the time
but not quite so plain?
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