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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1899
Clement_Panhard_VCP Phaeton
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems
to be on the lookout for photos of unusual cars, and wondered if we
knew what make this vehicle was which has connections with the London
to Brighton Veteran Car Run? -- Yes, - this is
the winner
of the 1927 'Old Crocks Race to Brighton' on
the 13th of November 1927 driven by John Bryce of Lanark . Car was
designed by the prolific French inventor in airships, submarines and
cars, Arthur Krebs. READ
BRIGHTON RUN HISTORY..
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
De Dion Bouton 8HP
Another from number of interesting period photos from a glass
negative from our regular contributor Alun Pugh (UK).
-- No history provided with the
photo but it sems to be some sort of open motoring with large public
attendance competition locally and in the background. It is possible
that the photo survives not because of the car but because of the lady
at the back, front left, with cross above her. The car is a cca
1903 De Dion Bouton 8HP Registered
1904 at Leeds CBC.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904
White Steamer Model D
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film starring
Errol Flynn and Bette Davis "The Sisters'' made 2005 where cars
are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about three daughters of a
small town pharmacist making their ways through their marriages at the
time of Theodor Roosevelt election 1904. -- The
car has a very large 'radiator' at the front suggesting it is a
condenser. The flutes on the side and the wire grille sides confirm it
a cca
1904 White Steamer Model D Tonneau
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905
De Dion Bouton 6HP 'Tourer'
Interesting photos posted on the Rootschat Forum which were part
of a collection of glass slides trying to trace previous owners. --
Registration CP 382 was Norwich Borough Council 1907. The hyphen
between letters and numbers was mandatory by law. Clearly visible are
de Dion Bouton steering wheel and two free standing so probably a cca
1905 De Dion Bouton, 6HP engine. The
body is quite fascinating, possibly unique, in having only the single
driver's front seat and side door. READ
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Franklin Model G Touring
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film starring
Errol Flynn and Bette Davis "The Sisters'' made 2005 where cars
are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about three daughters of a
small town pharmacist making their ways through their marriages at the
time of Theodor Roosevelt election 1904. - The
car has a round bonnet which is relatively unusual for an American car,
and wide honeycomb grille advising an air-cooled car, confirming a 1907
Franklin Model G Touring
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1912
Merryweather Fire Engine
Another from number of interesting period photos from a glass
negative from our regular contributor Alun Pugh (UK).
-- Interesting photo of a crashed Fire
Engine from Harrogate Fire Brigade showing the solid rubber tyres
having come off wheels back and front. Registration C 4256 is from West
Riding of Yorkshire CC but dating records not kept. Has shape of c1912
vehicle made by Merryweather
& Sons of London who made London's
first fire engine 1904, and also made steam trams.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913'14
Itala 50'65 Torpedo
Interesting photo posted on the AACA Forum by 64pontiac asking
for information on the make of vehicle from a batch of 'misidentified'
photos. -- This is also an Itala and from rounded
mudguards, circular air vent and wheel discs could have been upgrade
from other Itala. Our Ariejan Bos advises photos are from late Tim
Harding who collected photos with a British interest. Photo in UK.
Unlikely same car as acetylene lights, and is cca
1913'14 Itala 50'65 Torpedo. READ
MORE..
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913'14
Itala 50'65 Torpedo
Interesting photo posted on the AACA Forum by 64pontiac asking
for information on the make of vehicle from a batch of misidentified
photos. -- This is an Itala with the curly Itala
logo rather than the later plain oval. It has electric lights
suggesting earliest cca 1913. It seems to have a quite long bonnet so
is relatively powerful. Wings with splashguards suggest pre-war as do
the electric headlamps. My suggestion is cca
1913'14 Itala probably 50'65 Torpedo.
READ
MORE..
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Renault DM 11HP Torpedo
Damaged photo from Robert Haigh on Rootschat forum asking for
date of car driven by Grandfather. -- We repaired
photo. Renault Coalscuttle bonnet. Radiator was internal after 1919.
The short bonnet so a smaller power car. Leading edge of radiator is
rounded, no earlier than 1911. Scuttle body section behind the rad.
Windscreen is relatively small. Fuel filler cap in the scuttle. The
latter suggests a cca
1913 Renault Model DM 11HP Torpedo Tourer.
The date of photo cannot be earlier. MORE..
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Wolseley 19'20 Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum of old photos asking for identification of
vehicle . Is it a Wolseley? - - This does indeed
seem a Wolseley of the pre-WW1 period from the appearance of the
bodywork without driver's doorand for having acetylene lights. Tall
header, no logo, shortish bonnet likely four rather than a six cylinder
car, so cca
1913 Wolseley 19'20 Tourer open drive
with rather interesting enclosed rear section and convertible roof.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Maltby Charabanc
Another interesting period photo received from Hillary Roach (USA)
working on family tree and has found photos of Grandfather's
cars. Hillary advises that Grandfather John Edwin Porter was a shipper
of champagner and that he also started first bus company in Folkestone.
- The picture shows him in a light
suit by a cca
1913 Maltby Charabanc but we have not
been able to find any connection between Mr Porter and early Folkestone
charabanc bus operations. READ
MORE HISTORY.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1914
Allchin Steam Wagon
Another from number of interesting period photos from a glass
negative from our regular contributor Alun Pugh (UK).
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Relatively large number of steam waggons were made of similar
appearance. This one used in Killinghall which is Harrogate near Leeds.
Registration is Northampton. Thanks Roger Bishop and his steam friends,
can advise this is cca
1914 Alchin Steam Waggon made in
Northampton, confirmed by Allchin round logo on the cab door. Minor
differences may alter year.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915
Studebaker Model SD Touring
Puzzling Photo received from Nicky Scowen (UK).
We were concerned by oval numberplate, probably illegal in UK, in case
it came from the Colonies. Confirmed however that Nicky is trying to
identify the family outside a pub, The Harrow, in Chadwell Heath, now
Essex. - - If so, the registration was therefore
indeed issued by Essex CBC in 1915. Car is American, a cca
1915 Studebaker Model SD touring, date
confirmed by no petrol filler cap on scuttle, dropped end 1914, no earlier.
MORE..
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1917
Allday 2Ton Lorry
Another from a number of interesting period photos from a glass
negative from our regular contributor Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK).
-- Very attractive post WW1 new look lorry with an impressive bonnet
and chain guard photographed in front of an ammunition factory in
Birmingham. Photos on web suggest they had more of them. We were
completely puzzled but our Leyland Expert Mike Sutcliffe advised it was
a cca 1917 Alldays 2
Ton Lorry
made by the Alldays and Onions Co.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918
Hudson Super Six Town Car
Lovely hand painted photo from Ed Murphy (Norway)
-- The car is American, a cca
1918 Hudson Super Six Town Car, named
after a Detroit department store owner. In 1923 formed additional
company Essex, being a cheaper brand. Essex ceased in 1932 to become
Terraplane, ceasing 1938. Hudson merged with Nash-Kelvinator 1954 to
become American Motors. Hudson were also assembled in Germany, and
active with factories in England having some UK designed bodies.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1922
FIAT 501 Torpedo
inema screen grab taken from an Italian film "Edda'' made
1938 5 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is at the
height of World War II, Benito Mussolini's daughter, Edda, finds
herself in a troubled marriage, facing the turmoil of a country headed
toward tragedy. - The car seems to be on the
famous Appian Way out of Rome. It has a narrowish radiator with a
curved top and a bigish oval badge which all suggests car built in
Turin, Italy, a c1922
FIAT 501 Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1924
Ford Model TT Van
Another from number of interesting period photos from a glass
negative from our regular contributor Alun Pugh (UK).
-- Birmingham Post delivery van with headline we cannot make out. Also
not helping dating is the chap in front of the bonnet which could tell
more. However, the shape of the scuttle suggests a Ford
Model T Van
(1918-1928) and the angled struts leading to the rear wheels that it is
the extended TT version. The circular glass side window suggest a year
of about 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1926
OM Tippo 665S Torpedo
Interesting photo posted on the AACA Forum by Parud asking
for make of car his great grandfather and great aunts are in, in
Germany? -- First thoughts Italian or Teutonic.
Both had sidelights below head-lamps. Not British. Large white oval
nameplate on the radiator top. We repaired photo so now relatively
confident this is Italian cca
1926 OM Tippo 665S 2L Torpedo Tourer.
This type of car won class at Le Mans by filling all first five places
and subsequently won the first Mile Miglia race.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929
Bean 14HP Tourer
Another from a number of interesting period photos from a glass
negative from our regular contributor Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK).
-- Difficult angle of a difficult car in an unusual location of a car
being in Flood Water, in Stirchley, Birmingham, July 11th 1927.
Numberplate had been retouched on the letter P valmost hiding the
preceding N, which makes it a Worcester CC issue. The bonnet appears
slightly bell shaped and car has all the sign of being a cca
1929 Bean
14HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1955
Wolseley 4'44 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a British TV Series
"Heartbeat" made 1992-2009 where cars are being investigated
by IMCDB. Story is about a countryside provincial police station
dealing with small village life and petty crimes occasionally
interrupted by bigger things happening from outside. -
Wolseley cars were widely used to the 1960s by the Police, made at
Morris Cowley Factory after theWW2 based on the Morris Oxford and Morris
6. This is the cca
1955 Wolseley 4'44 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930s
Streamliner Cab
Another couple of interesting puzzling
photo from a forum of car photos asking for information on the make of
vehicle. -- A one-off
home built special as the hammer marks
are quite visible on
the bodywork. There was a period between 1930-40 that car makers were
experimenting with streamliners in both Europe and USA and a number of mainstream
cars were airflowed. In addition a
number of 'racers' in the USA such as the Golden Submarine and
Schenk Streamliner. MORE..
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1935
Hispano Suiza J12
Cinema screen grab taken from Cinema screen grab taken from a
Spanish film "El Litri y su sombra' made 1960 where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Story about man from matador background
achieving his goals despite not having his family's backing. -
The car is a Hispano Suiza (Spanish-Swiss) founded in 1904 making
electric cars in Barcelona, but achieved main fame when opened a
factory in France 1923. This is cca
1935 Hispano Suiza J12 Limousine by Kellner
of Paris.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1957
Wolseley 6'90 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a British film "Gaolbreak"
made 62 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about a
family of burglars planning a jewellery when their safecracking expert
gets arrested and jailed, they hatch a plan to break him out so he can
take part in the robbery. -- Wolseley cars were
widely used to the 1960s by the Police. Made at Morris Cowley Factory
after the WW2 based on the Morris Oxford and Morris six This is the
cca 1957 Wolseley 6'90 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Mid1960s
Renault Floride
Cinema screen grab taken from a British TV Series 'Maighret"
made 1968 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about a
pipe smoking French old school detective operating with the gendarmerie
in Paris. -- Only the top part of the car is
visible but helpfully with the logo on front wing and typical upswing
in body line behind, but no grille visible. The Renault
Floride was introduced in Europe in
1958, in USA 1959 as Caravelle, and then universally Caravelle after
1962 to 1968.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown
WW1 Lorry
Another from a number of interesting period photos from a glass
negative from our regular contributor Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK).
-- This one we have not cracked because of the difficult angle taken
from the back with most identifying pointers covered over with bunting.
Lorry was part of fleet owned by Explosive Trades group of companies
which changed the name to Nobel Explosives and closed BM&M down
1920. Unknown lorry
seems possibly peopled by 'munitionettes'? Help
Please!
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