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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order: 

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903 Panhard Levassor 10HP Tonneau
Lovely photo received from Mary Irvine (New Zealand) of grandfather, Walter Scott Stanley outside his draper's parade of shops in Bagshot UK,1899 to 1913. Size of children in top photo suggest year as being about 1907. -- The car registration is A 9218, which was London CC 1905. The car was  made in Paris by France's pioneer manufacturers, being a cca 1903 Panhard Levassor 10HP Tonneau, - which we have superimposed on lower photo of shops as they are today.  SEE MORE..

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Darracq 10'12 Tonneau
Another from our Forums Sleuth, Mark Dawber (New Zealand), from a forum asking for identification. Darracq?-- External ignition timer by starting handle so yes probably, but a couple of standout ID features puzzling, also, a bit like a Panhard of the day. The radiator has a widish frame surround and a filler cap. Our Ariejan Bos clarifies; Yes, Darracq, I initially considered the 1904 12CV but noticed rad filler tube, so only alternative is a 'Geneviève' model, so cca 1903 Darracq 10'12 Tonneau.

1903 Darracq 10'12 Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Panhard Levassor 16 HP
Another puzzling photo from Rootschat forum asking for information on the make of vehicle not yet identified. --  Is it Grandfather's 1904 Wolsey 10? - Neither cars are a Wolseley because Wolselys of that vintage had a bonnet wrap-round radiator; quite distinctive. The Reg of the car on the left is A-4413 which is a London County Council issue of mid 1904. Car is French from one of the pioneer auto manufacturers, being a grand cca 1904 Panhard Levassor 16 HP Side Entrance Tourer.

1904 Panhard Levassor 16 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Renault 10HP Tonneau
Another puzzling photo from Rootschat forum asking for information on the make of vehicle not yet identified. --  Is it Grandfather's 1904 Wolsey 10? - Neither cars are a Wolseley because Wolselys of that vintage had a bonnet wrap-round radiator; quite distinctive. The Reg of car on right seems to be O (or  D). O-197 is Birmingham 1904 (D is Kent). The car is also French, just possible to see side radiator advising this cca 1904 Renault Tonneau, likely the 10HP Type N, pre scuttle rad.

1904 Renault 10HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Laurin & Klement Type A
Cinema screen grab taken from a Czechoslovak film "Pani Kluci" (Gentlemen, Boys) made 1968 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about three friends in a small town, one always in trouble. -- Czechoslovak film so, the cars are Czech. One of earliest  in 1895 in Mlada Boleslav was Laurin & Klement who started out making motorcycles. The first car was this one, a cca 1905 Laurin & Klement Type A 8HP Voiturette. L&K were taken over by Skoda Steelworks 1925

1905 Laurin & Klement Type A

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Argyll 10'12 Tourer
Hand painted photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum of car photos asking for information on the make of vehicle on left? -- Not sure of the country of photo, and we also originally thought this was a French Delahaye, but our Veteran's expert Ariejan Bos advises that the car on the left is one that was made in Scotland, made in a then new showplace factory Alexandria near Glasgow and is a cca1912 Argyll 12HP Tourer. Became torpedo factory. Last cars 1928.

1906 Argyll 10'12 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Humber 10'12 Tourer
Hand painted photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum of car photos asking for information on the make of vehicle on left? -- Looks very much like a Humber who had two factories at the time, one in Coventry and the other in Beeston? Beeston made the more expensive ones. This car has a very 'diamondish' shape radiator with short central sides rather than more even sided rectangular, with a shortish bonnet, so probably Beeston cca 1908 Humber 15 HP Tourer.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Daimler 22HP Landaulette
Another from our Forums Sleuth, Mark Dawber (New Zealand), from a forum asking for identification. -- - Registration seems EB 2## which is Isle Of Ely (Cambridge) 1907, swampy area good for edible eels, and an island until the draining of the Fens. This is medium car often associated with Taxis. Very unclear radiator top, possibly humped, but bonnet top is flat in the style of a Daimler and has the Daimler type bonnet rest pins. Ariejan Bos confirms 1907 Daimler 22HP Landaulette.

1907 Daimler 22HP Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Laurin & Klement Type B
Cinema screen grab taken from a Czechoslovak film "Pani Kluci" (Gentlemen, Boys) made 1968 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story is about three friends in a small town, one always in trouble. -- Czechoslovak film so, the cars are Czech. One of earliest  in 1895 in Mlada Boleslav was Laurin & Klement who started out making motorcycles. The second car was this one, a cca 1907 Laurin & Klement Type B 10 Two-Seater. L&K were taken over by Skoda Steelworks 1925

1907 Laurin & Klement Type B Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Humber 15HP Tourer
Hand painted photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum of car photos asking for information on the make of vehicle on right? -- Photo seems of the Bear Hotel in Newtown, Wales, previously the Bear's Head coaching inn demolished in the 1980. Car registration EP 134 is Montgomery 1909. and has a very 'diamondish' shape radiator with short central sides rather than more even sided rectangular, with a shortish bonnet, unusual so probably a cca 1909 Humber 15 HP Tourer.

1909 Humber 15HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Ford Model T Touring
Hand painted photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum of car photos asking for information on the make of vehicle on left? -- Research advises photo seems of the Bear Hotel in Newtown, Wales, previously the Bear's Head coaching inn demolished in the 1980 to make way for a shopping centre. The car which seems to have a registration FO of nearby Radnor was made in America, transverse spring, no front door, suggesting early cca 1908 Ford Model T Touring.

1909 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette
Another puzzling photo from Rootschat forum asking for information on the make of vehicle not yet identified. -- Registration U-1468 was Leeds CBC 1910. Car is from earliest and best makers of the day, Napier. First car 1899, mostly very large, racers and record breakers. Also made 1908-1911 a smaller vehicle that became very popular as a Taxi in London and elsewhere. This is a cca 1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette available in either 1.3L 2 Cylinder or 2.7L 4 Cylinder engine. 

1910 Napier 15HP Landaulette Taxi

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 DFP 10HP Tourer
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for photos of unusual cars, and asked if we knew what this one was at Rye Harbour many years ago. From current photo, area hasn't changed much! -- The car on the right in the foreground from bulbous scuttle and sloping bonnet does not seem to be British but very remiscent of a French Doriot, Flandrin & Parant . Flat radiator with no badge and scuttle without a filler suggest an earlier cca 1910 DFP 10HP Tourer.

1910 DFP 10HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Panhard Levassor X8 Landaulet
Another photo from our Forums Sleuth, Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum of old photos and asking for information on the make of vehicle ? - Quick bit of research advises this is the Hershey Family on holiday in Egypt in April 1913. Photo shows a French cca 1912 Panhard & Levassor X 8 Landaulette with Milton Hershey leaning on window by wife Kitty, who died young. Hershey became one of world's biggest chocolate manufacturers, and built Hershey town around the factory.

1912 Panhard Levassor X8 Landaulet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1913 Benz Sports Tourer
Another interesting photo received from our Forums Sleuth, Mark Dawber (New Zealand), from a forum of old photos with unknown make of vehicle. -- Very pretty machine with beaked radiator which seems to have everybody puzzled, so we asked our Veterans Expert Ariejan Bos, who advised: ' Yes, definitely Benz, several models had this fashion item feature loaned from BlitzenBenz, the 200hp race monster. This sporting body type was rather popular in years just before Great War.

c1913 Benz Sports Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Minerva CC Tourer
Hand painted photo received from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum of car photos asking for information. --  Lovely hand painted 1923 postcard of King Haakon VII of Norway in one of his Minervas.  In 1912/13 there was a changeover for many ID features but on balance, square edge rad, part-wave of bonnet, scuttle lights etc are a number of pointers advising it would be top end range coachworked earlier pre WW1 car, cca 1912 Minerva CC 7.2 L Roi Des Belges Tourer.

1913 Minerva CC Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 NAG 10'12 Ambulance/Van
Another interesting puzzling photo from a forum of car photos asking for information on the make of vehicle not yet identified. -- Made by German company in chocolate slot machines in 1890s and then made 'Orient Express' car in 1895 with 10 hand controls to drive it. Taken over by AEG as Neue Automobil Gesellschaft, became very successful car and commercial vehicle manufacturer. Also made ambulances during WW1. Picture seems of 1914 NAG 10'12 'Darling' or 14'20 Van.

1914 NAG 10'12 Ambulance/Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Crossley 20/25 Tourer
Another interesting puzzling photo from a forum of car photos asking for information on make of identified vehicle. -- Reg WR 27X is West Riding of Yorkshire CC 1915, World War One. This is a cca 1915 Crossley 20/25 Tourer, later a 25'30, 'Manchester' in sporting form, and smaller 15HP Shelsey.  Crossley remained in production and was much used by the Military during the war as staff cars. Company also made lorries, busses and ambulances for the war effort. Later used by the Police. 

1915 Crossley 20/25 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Post 1916 Ford Model T Touring
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for photos of unusual cars, and asked if we knew what this one was at Rye Harbour many years ago. From current photo, area hasn't changed much! -- The car on the left seems to have protruding stub axles and a transverse front axle which initially suggests at looking at a Ford Model T. The picture is very pixly and only a part of the Hastings registration visible, but has to be post 1916 as the bonnet of the car is rounded.

Post 1916 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Morris Cowley Flatnose Coupe
Another photo from our Forums Sleuth, Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from the NZ Herald old photos with unidentified make of vehicle? -- Seems a light English Coupe parked in Auckland with child aboard somehow got moving and hit a number of buildings, collecting a bicycle and hitting telegraph pole. Car destroyed but child only fractured collarbone. -- From bonnet handle, high louvres, no body line, three studs, pointed radiator, seems cca 1927 Morris Cowley Flatnose Coupe. 

1927 Morris Cowley Flatnose Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932 Fiat 522 Saloon
Another interesting photo received from our Forums Sleuth, Mark Dawber (New Zealand), from a forum of old photos with unknown make of vehicle. -- Taken from a low shooting perspective and having a chrome headlamp bar suggests a cca 1932 Fiat 522 Saloon 2.5 Six, very much following fashions of USA. A square Fiat badge is supposed to have started on those models? Also made in Spain 1931-33. Alternatively, could be the smaller 1930 Fiat 514L Saloon of 1.5 Litre 4.

1932 Fiat 522 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932 Lincoln K V12 Limousine
Cinema screen grab taken from an American Film "Buried Loot" made in 1935 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story about embezzler who serves time in prison ready to then dig up his loot. -- Big exotic American car from the makers of the Model T, this is a cca 1932 Lincoln K V12 Limousine. Lincoln was the luxury brand instigated by Ford and was one of the most exclusive vehicles produced in the United States during the 1930s, available as V8 or V12, many coach-built.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939 Hotchkiss 686 Sports Saloon
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) seems to be on the lookout for photos of unusual cars, and wondered if we knew what this one was? -- Small blurry photo so difficult to make out specific ID pointers. Crossed cannons logo on rad with no central bar, car is French by a Paris munitions company. High position of headlights and low wipers suggests specialist coachwork company and rear stoneguard say up-market cca 1939 Hotchkiss 686 GS Sports Saloon. Six Monte Carlo wins.

1939 Hotchkiss 686 Sports Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1950 London Doubledeckers Yugoslavia
Cinema screen grab taken from an American TV Documentary by PanAm "Wings over Yugoslavia" made in 1962 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Documentary about Yugoslavia during years of communism. -- Very unusual double decker buses known locally as 'Londonac' (Londoner) pictured in Zagreb purchased from London Transport were used in parts of former Yugoslavia in 1952, adapted with rear and offside doors for driving on right. Some were Leylands PD1, some Guy Arabs, AEC Regent STL and single deckers AEC Regal.

London Double-deckers in Zagreb,Yugoslavia

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:2022 New Asia 200cc Rickshaw
Cinema screen grab taken from an American  TV Series "22 Seps" made 2023/4 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Medical drama about a young surgeon with autism and savant syndrome. - - Vehicle is a Tuk-tuk tricycle rickshaw used in many parts of the tropical world with differing names, mostly with open bodies and canvas roof. This one looks a recent standard New Asia 200cc Rickshaw manufactured in Lahore Pakistan. Current trend is towards electric powered rickshaws.

2022 New Asia 200cc Rickshaw
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