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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1901 Toledo Steamer
David Hanks gave us loads of grief with
this one, to the point where we managed to get the photo published in
The Automobile. At about the same time our own Desmond Peacock
also managed to identify the cars as a 1901
Toledo Steamer and a cca 1902
Mors. The Toledo was the main problem so
the subsequent info obtained during our researches is on the
Toledo
Steamer Page with
pictures of a current car in the UK.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1905 Pope Toledo
Interesting photo received from Kathy Diaz,
Torrance CA (USA) of
her grandparents in a magnificent car taken in northern California
(probably San Francisco or Santa Cruz area). Her great grand mother was
pregnant with her grandfather and he was born in 1913. The car is
a late 1905
Pope Toledo, possibly early 1906
as the running boards etc are enclosed. Pope in USA had a number of car
companies at that time.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1907 Renault 10HP
Photo received from Alex Gonzalez who had
seen this unrestored car on his travels and wondered what exactly it
was and the value. He believed it was a Renault. Our researches
indicated that it indeed was a Renault, although many cars of the
period had similar central radiators and scuttle bonnets. We
believe the car to be cca 1906/7
Renault 10 or 14
HP Limousine. Prices
for this type of car are in the region of £30/40,000
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1908 De Dion Bouton
Photo from Steve Nield (Switzerland)
advising he had recently discovered an old photo album containing
photographs of a car which he would like identified. The photo is dated
October 1909 and was taken somewhere in Switzerland. Evidently the
photographs were used in the Strand magazine for an article on mountain motoring
in Switzerland. We are pretty sure that the photo is that of a cca
1908 De Dion Bouton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Stanley/1910 De Dion-Bouton
Intriguing photos received from Leslie Ann
Murray from the American Chamber of Commerce of the
Philippines
requesting dating and information on De Dion-Bouton busses and lorries,
which resulted in some in depth research uncovering a
fascinating story
of the building of the infamous Kennon Road and introduction of Stanley Steamers
and later De Dion-Bouton road trains to the new summer capital of Baguio.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1911 Humber
Photo from Jason Vogel from Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)
of grandfather's car in 1916. This took some time to identify and we
were not expecting it to be British. It turns out to be a cca 1911
Humber. While researching came across a
similar age car in 'The Humber Story' which was of a Taxi
and amazingly also photographed in Rio. Obviously an active Humber agent
then. Interesting changes to number plate numbers and colours.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1913 Austro Daimler
Photo received from Michael Heaton, the Archivist of the
Spratton Local History Society (UK) asking
for identification of a car pictured at the start of the Monte Carlo
rally in 1913 and owned by a famous local resident William Rhodes -
Moorhouse. He was the first airman to receive the Victoria Cross and was
killed in action in 1915. The car is a 1912/13
Austro Daimler, who were also into manufacturing aeroplanes.
The Austro Daimler Register in Neustadt say it is a "Prince
Henry" type.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1913 Bedelia Cyclecar
Another great photo from Dave McDonald (UK)
taken in Malaysia of his Great Uncle. This one is of a cca 1913
Bedelia Cyclecar.
Bedelias, made between 1910 -1916, were the first of the French
cyclecars and set the pattern. The seating was in tandem, driver in the
back. Belt driven two speed engines of 3, 5, and 10HP. Some were used in
WW1 as a machine gun carriers, with passenger firing, and also as
stretcher transport.
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IDENTIFICATION AND VALUATION: cca
1914 Enfield
Contacted last year by Mark Bowell (Ireland)
advising an aunt is trying to sell a 1914 Royal Enfield car purchased in
1996 unrestored, and asking for current valuation. We advised this is a
relatively rare car and corrected that this is in fact a 1914
Enfield (Enfields between 1910 -14). We
took advice on value and passed it on. Car is now complete, owned by
Gemma Bowell, and available FOR SALE
at E30,000 in Ireland.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1914 Adler Taxi
Picture Postcard 'Early Motoring' received
from David Hanks
(UK) showing an old
vehicle which he asked to be identified. This one took some time to tie
down but was eventually identified an Adler from Germany. Careful study
of the photo reveals that the car is fitted with a meter, so it was
an early taxi. Not obvious in the photo are two jump seats behind
the driver, so could carry five in the back, and two front.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1918 Daimler Taxi
Third picture received from Joseph Seymour (UK)
of his father at work in his taxi. Joe was not sure of the make but
thought it was a Daimler. It is indeed a Daimler and a 1918
Daimler Landaulette. This was quite a
big car. On the same picture, which is a composite of two photos, is
another taxi which we think is a cca 1914 Reanult Landaulette of which
over 1000 used worldwide. Also used to transport soldiers to
WW1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1919 Daimler Charabanc
Another picture received from Joseph
Seymour (UK)
of his father this time on an outing to Southend-on-Sea in on open
charabanc in the 1920s. The vehicle is a 1919
Daimler Charabanc. Sometimes the
word charabanc is broken down into 'char-a-banc'. Francophones use
'char' for car, and 'banc' is a bench. So a charabanc is a car with
benches. A great summer treat in those days was a Mystery Tour on a
charabanc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1922Vauxhall Princeton
Lovely picture received from Joseph Seymour
(UK) of his
father at the wheel of a car taken in the 1020s. Distinguishing feature
is the fluted bonnet, and from from disc wheels relatively sure
the that the car is a Vauxhall
14/40, M series 'Princeton Tourer, four
seater, having a four cylinder engine of 2297cc, giving 25/28 mpg. It
was built between late 1921 and 1924, capable of just over 50 mph and
had rear brakes only.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Talbot 8/18
Photo received from Dave McDonald (UK)
taken in Malaysia of his Great Uncle in two cars. This is a Talbot
8/18 made in England between 1922-26.
The 'servant' in the back was probably the 'chauffer'. When the 'master'
would want to drive, but may not want to be bothered with parking
or retrieving of it later, the chauffer would be 'in the back' ready to
take over when the master was too incapacitated to do so.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Essex Sedan
Stewart Harrowing from the (USA)
sent us this
photo showing a 1920s car. While we are not experts on American cars, we
are pretty sure that the car is a cca 1924 Essex Sedan. Although
Essex is the name of a county in England, the car was made by a branch
of the Hudson Motor Company in Detroit. We think the year indicated is
relatively accurate because that type of radiator was used for a
relatively short time.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Steyr Type 5
Eddie Donn from Middlesex (UK)
took a photo of the car on the right while in Spain some years ago and
has been trying ever since to find out what it was. At first
glance the car had the Benz type radiator but is clearly not a Benz or a
Mercedes. The rad only helped to confuse because many Tutonic cars had
them, but this is an Austrian
cca 1924 Steyr Type 5
, who also made armaments and logo represents a target.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1927 Morris Oxford
Photo received from Paula Clements (UK)
of her parents wedding car. Our Morris expert Chas Moody advises
it is a 1927
Morris Oxford, identified by two
'styling' ribs on the doors (Cowleys had one). 1927 indicated by two
piece windscreen and two piece mudguards, Sept 1926 to Aug 1927.
Registration OT is Hampshire / Southampton area 1926 and 1927. The
Bullnose Morris Club has no record of this car surviving.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1931 FIAT 514
Photo received from Kamal Tuladhar of Bhakta
Bir Singh Tuladhar, from Kathmandu, (Nepal), taken
in about 1947 in Kalimpong
(West Bengal, India). Many Newar traders of Kathmandu operated business
houses and shops in Tibet, and travelled to Lhasa by mule caravan.
Kalimpong, a staging point for caravans, was a rest point between trips
to Tibet. The car is probably a cca 1931
Fiat Model 514 built between 1929-1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1932 Morris Major
Photo received from Marianna Worthy (UK)
of her grandparents standing in front of their car and wanted to know
what the car was. Confirmed by our Morris man Chas Moody that it is a 1932
Morris Major. Temperature controlled
chrome shutters and twin blade bumper were introduced in 1932. (1931 had
black shutters and 1934 a centre strip). Six cylinder LE side valve
engine of 1803cc and a four speed gearbox.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1933 MG Type J2
Photo from Ian Smith (UK)
of his late father-in-law Ted Hone who lived in Oxford. The car is not
known to the MG register as survivor. The UK plate MG 2411 belonged to a
MG J2,
chassis J 3152 built on 31/3/33, supplied ex factory to University
Motors 26/4/33, and sold on 1/5/33 to S. Spigel. The J1 was a four
seater and the J2 a two seater; J3 and J4 were supercharged. Photo
taken in Portsmouth, just pre or post war.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1933 Essex Terrapalne
Photo received from Ignacio Alonso from
San Sebastian (Spain)
who is an enthusiast of vintage and classic vehicles and is a keen
collector of car photos. He requested identification of the car on this
photo. This one did the rounds and took some time to identify, but
our Dutch correspondent Fer Cools suggested it could be a Hudson
1932/5 Essex Terrapalne.
Maybe one of our USA readers would be able to confirm ??
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1937 Wolseley 18/80
Photo received from Jill MacRae (Scotland)
asking for identification. From the badge, quick identification
is that the car is Wolseley..
From the lower slung headlights and smaller dip in the bumper it is
probably a Series II. It looks beefy so it is probably a 18/80, and from
the mudguards flowing into the running boards, it has a Salon de Ville
body. These were built between 1936/8. The car was registered in
Morayshire.
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IDENTIFICATION AND VALUATION: cca
1952 Riley RMB
Andrew Elderfiel sent a photo of a Riley
which is languishing in a garage in Mallorca (Spain).
The owner wishes to sell it and has requested identification and
valuation. The light blue badge identifies it as a Riley
RMB which has a 2.5L engine. Made
between 1946 and 52. Similar RMF (1952/3) generally had metallic paint.
Value is dependant on condition of the ash body frame, hence from £
scrap, £3,000, £7,000, to £9,000.
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NEEDS URGENTLY TO BE SAVED: cca
1961 Austin Mobile Library
John Rees from Wales
has sent me a photo of an old mobile library which may be of interest to
someone as a restoration project. The vehicle was manufactured in 1961
by Austin, it's bodywork was made by
Hemaloy and it has a gross weight of 7 tons. The registration number is
618 MTX. The last time the vehicle was used was probably in 1981, when
it was driven to where it now sadly sits in Aberdare, South Wales.
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VALUATION OF CLASSIC CARS: cca
1969 Volvo 164 ; 1949 Rover 75
1/. Clark
Ross
(UK) has inherited a
1969 Volvo 164 which has been in a garage for the last 30 years but
started and moved weekly. Approx values are between £250 - £800 -
£1,800, subject to condition.
2/. Adrian Toms
(UK) was enquiring
about a 1949 Rover 75, not on the road, bits off the car, and requiring
restoration. Current values for 1948/9 Rover 75 cars are £800 - £3,000
- £ 4000, this one at low end.
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WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PICTURE: cca
1914 Belsize Tourer
Email from Ron in California (USA)
asking for a picture of a 1914
Belsize touring car. His Mother, who
grew up in England from 1920 to when she moved to the USA in 1946, told
him her family had a Belsize. She always wanted a picture to show her
friends but
he hadn't been able locate one. We have such a Belsize on the 2002
Help Page but this slightly modified photo from AUTOMUSEUM
HOHENSTEIN
shows it much better.
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VALUATION OF VINTAGE CAR :
1936 Riley Kestrel
Photos
from Kevin van de Water (New
Zealand) asking for value of his car if
brought to UK, rallied and sold. This is quite a desirable car and
worth UK£15/20,000. Shipping costs from New Zealand approx £1600,
Value Added Tax (VAT) at 17.5% on car plus all shipping/paperwork costs.
No VAT if not sold for a year. Registration with the DVLA and getting a 'period
numberplate' can be expensive, then MOT inspection.
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INFORMATION ON A STATIONARY ENGINE: Slavia
Enquiry from Kevin Rae from Forfar
(Scotland) who has recently bought a Slavia Stationary Engine to
restore. We were interested to find out more and found
http://jdeklerck.tripod.com/engines_e.htm
which is an interesting site on a number of less known engines including
the
Slavia, advising that the engine is of
Czech origin from a successful company from about 1910, and making
modern and reliable engines.
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IDENTIFICATION: Unknown
Vintage Wheel
Interesting conundrum from Graham Scott who lives on the main
road in Bookham, Surrey, (UK).
One day he found in his front garden a
wheel from a vintage vehicle which must have fallen off
something that was passing by. There are no identifying marks on
the rim but the tyre has markings: The Coker Tire Company 4 Ply 525 /
550 - 19. There are 40 spokes on the wheel. We need help with
identifying the make of car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND FOR
SALE : Stationary
engines
Adrian Bolton has been asked to help clear a garage of a deceased
friend. The family
would like a reasonable value for two stationary engines which have so
far been 'unidentified'. Both are
twin machines with horizontally opposed cylinders and magneto
ignition. One seems to be a "Norman"
and the other a side valve unit with
the inlets ported through the barrels. All items are located in (UK)
Northamptonshire.
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VALUATION AND FOR
SALE : cca
1914 Cowey Motor Horn
Allan Peebles has sent me a photo of a car
horn he got at a garage sale, marked Cowey Engineering Works. We need
your help on valuation! Allan could find no reference
to Cowey so we can advise that Cowey in Kew Gardens made speedometers and instruments,
and during 1913 -1915
Cowey
made a 10HP light car with unique pneumatic
suspension involving car being carried on four vertical cylinders of
compressed air.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920s
Cylinder Block
Picture of a cylinder
barrel
from Malcolm Buckler (Isle of Man) who
has for 30 years been steadily unearthing a motorcycle from his garden.
No detachable head, bore approx 2 7/8" and one valve 1 1/2".
Our guys suggested half of a vee twin from a Dennis lawn mower, possibly
a White engine, as the priming cup is at 45 deg. Perhaps agricultural.
Malcolm is connected with www.bucklercars.com which is worth a look.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920s
Front Axle
Pictures of a front
axle received from Charles
Lofstedt (UK) requesting
identification. It has 10 half-elliptic leaf springs per side. Drums are
9 inches in diameter with 3 studs. The brakeplates are aluminium.
Brakes are mechanical. Each brake shoe has its own pivot, although only
one cam operates each brake. Cast is an oval DDD. Our 'Morris men'
think it is from a 1929 Flatnose Morris with reversed springs for use as
a trailer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920s
Bentley Parts?
Pictures of a set
of wings received from DJ Eglington (UK)
possibly a 1920s Bentley. These came from a local farm barn with a
number of engine items including con rods, piston rings and some 'new'
items still in their original packing. Also there were a starter motor
and generator, brake parts and 3 tyres, two Dunlops 935x135 and 880x12.
Bentley was always mentioned when these bits were being referred to. Any ideas?
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