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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1987
Benz Dos-a-Dos
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Joao Ferreira (Portugal).
This is one of first cars in Oporto, taken in the
"Estrada da Circunvalação" a road around the city. Is it on
list of motorized vehicles sold in Oporto before 1900? -- Our
Ariejan Bos advises it is a cca
1897/98 Benz Dos-a-Dos (dogcart)
but probably modified later. Side lights are older type oil lamps, but
main lights acetylene. Later steering wheel, - not on solid tyres.
Could well be the Benz, 13th car on the list.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Cottereau 7HP Tonneau
Facebook photo from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) asking ID. --
A well known photo on number of websites
of a 1906 group of people at Bunmahon, co Waterford, Eire, - but
nowhere are the cars identified. The car on the left carries
registration MT-19 which is Wexford County (of crystal and oldest Irish
city fame), which is about an hour east on the south coast. Our Ariejan
Bos advises the car is a cca
1903 Cottereau 7HP Tonneau (typical
crank handle support) before rads became round.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Clément SE Tonneau
Facebook photo from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) asking ID. --
A well known photo on number of websites
of a 1906 group of people at Bunmahon, co Waterford, Eire, - but
nowhere are the cars identified. The car on the right is also French
and has registration XI-53 which is a Belfast CBC issue from Northern
Ireland, some 150 miles away. Our Ariejan
Bos advises the car is a cca
1903 Clement SE Tonneau, identical
to the Gladiator, except that bonnet shoulder is rounded and not
flat.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Darracq Special Coach
Photo from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from Facebook posting by
James Hayward whose grandfather's uncle drove the car shown in The
Strand London, in Boston; came from Malvern in England, and later moved
to Boston, USA. --
We have a photo of same registration/car
on our 2015 HP90
as a cca 1907 Darracq "Coach"
and photos elsewhere on the web at the Bournemouth Fate. At the time
Darracq had 22L V8 car capable of 120mph. Alexandre Darracq retired
from car industry 1912.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Panhard Levassor as Tractor
Facebook photo via Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from
Henri Florin asking ID. Panhard? --
Yes indeed
a Panhard levassor
from time when
the radiator cooling coils stopped being forward of the rad surround,
and when bonnet sides were solid rather than louveres: 1909-10. Legend
reads 'During war, the art of trailing an old auto'. Much modified
vehicle with proper tractor wheels back and front and seems have chain
driven power take-off. Looks a powerful vehicle so probably 30 HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
De Dion Bouton Torpedo
Our Members Bishop and Gosset exchanged
Christmas greetings via this photo and Roger Bishop
(UK),
asked if it was a Hispano Suiza? Michel suggested I would know. --
Hispano Suiza did have a French Division
and post WW1 mascot of a stork on the rad was symbol of the French
province of Alsace. This car is also French but from Paris with a
much longer tradition, being a cca
1912 De Dion Bouton Torpedo, probably
the DX. Photo likely taken during/after WW1 of it being used as a staff
car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Armstrong Whitworth Limousine
Photo
sent by David Tucker, Professor Emeritus, Ryerson University (Canada)
whose great uncle operated fleet of early
British chauffeured vehicles. Name could have been Bailey or Buckley. --
Registration W 8323 was Sheffield BCC around WW1 but dating records
lost; 'WA' was 1919. Yorkshire was world centre of industry and both
names common. Nothing found. Car is a very unusual cca
1913 Armstrong Whitworth Limousine
with new front radiator for 20'30 launched at Olympia 1913.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Pre-WW1
De Dion Bouton Charabancs
Mike Schofield (UK)
advises that the Haven Hotel on Sandbamks. Poole, opened about 1880
with no road aceass. It only prospered when French hotelier Eugine
Poulain, took over, shown with his fleet of De
Dion Bouton charabancs about 1910. --
The circular Solex radiators were used by French
De Dion Bouton but also by other Paris bus makers. Registrations FX is
Dorset, 1912 left 1914 right,- after intial BF was objected to by
public. Most important was that Haven Hotel was the home / base for
Marconi wireless telegraphy researches 1898-1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915
Metallurgique Ambulance
Facebook photo from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) asking ID. --
Another well known photo on number of websites
of an ambulance built for St John of Jerusalem named variously as a
Palladium, Phanomen etc, or are
mostly unidentified. We however feel this is a cca
1915 Metallurgique Ambulance, probably
the 30HP or 40HP model, cca
1915 Metallurgique Ambulance, probably
the 30HP or 40HP model, made in
Belgium by railway engine co much of whose production came to the UK
for Vanden Plas bodies. ' V ' type rad was trademark 1908 to end 1927.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1916
Schneider Type H Lorry
Very interesting photo received from
Benjamín Espina from (Spain)
who has a truck, perhaps Schneider from the
early 20th century, and would appreciate help to identify it more
precisely. --
Chassis medium length. wheels metal, tyres
solid, cab hand made later, and outline visible of a circular Solex radiator
on bonnet. We are not experts on commercials but believe this is a cca
1916 Schneider Type H cab-over-engine lorry.
Schneider mainly known for Paris busses, so could be a bus modified.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1917
SPA 30HP Military Lorry
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a Facebook page asking
for naming. Possibly Italian, by the uniform. Not a Fiat as
dumbirons wrong. Note 'running boards' look as if they can be
removed to help in the mud. -- Looks
Italian indeed and always difficult, from this era. Our Ariejan Bos
advises Fiat seems unlikely, but has
image of a
cca 1917 SPA 30HP Military Lorry from
Turin, which is similar. SPA founded Matteo Ceirano and Michele Ansaldi.
Later FIAT.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1918
FIAT Type 52B Charabanc
Photo from Norton Cooper
(Belgium), not a racing car but
a 1934 Austin seven owner, dated 1st Sept. 1930. Looking for
information on the model/year of the Fiat charabanc. --
Charabancs bodies were generally local
one-offs made to order after WW1 and placed on lorry/car chassis
previously used before or during/after WW1. This one is not a lorry
but, from radiator, is based on a cca
1918 FIAT Type 52B
car chassis 2F with optional solid wheels. Our dating is normally of
the car, not the photo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Studebaker Big Six
Photo received from Simon Prentis (UK)
which we subsequently note we have already
identified in 2018 on
HP 102, of Grandfather when he was
living in Singapore. He thinks photo was taken around 1925. Car has a
Singapore plate. --
Identification features are square
headlamps with round glass, short run of 14 louvres towards back of
bonnet, and two piece windscreen. This dates this car to being an
American cca
1919 Studebaker Big Six, a seven
passenger Touring, 5.8 L straight-6, 60 HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Ford Model T Touring
Facebook photo from Ivan (Barbados)
asking if it was a Model T Touring? --
It may indeed have been a 'Touring' at
some time but with dented radiator, and two jacks under axle, and without
front tyres, it tours no more. No idea how the kneeling lady can help,
short of praying or knitting a set ! The car is indeed a cca
1920 Ford Model T Touring. Dating from
the rounded bonnet so post 1916 and has the a smallfiller plate around
starting handle, post 1919, and Touring as it is a soft-top.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
BSA 10HP Roadster
Facebook photo from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) asking ID. Should know car
but don't? -- Lovely
picture of Rudolf who has grown a red nose. Registration is London CC
July 1922. Probably photographed in Richmond Park full of deer. This
car has often caught me out as well and may have done again were it not
for the mascot on rad ; three rifles stacked. Headlamps on mudguards,
scuttle fuel filler, no water cap. This is a
cca 1922 BSA 10HP Roadster, air-cooled
V2. B.S.A. owned Daimler.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Morris Oxford Tourer
Couple of photos sent by G S Hancock (UK)
who isa trying to identify the
car in attached photo which we have slightly enhanced. Could be a Bullnose. Many thanks in anticipation of your response. --
Photo is notated as 'Monsall Dale', which is in Peak District of
central England. Our Morris sleuth Chas Moody advises this is a cca
1925 Morris Oxford Tourer. Oxfords had
nickel plated hub caps. In 1925 longer chassis so front mudguard not
rounded but sweeps 45 degrees. Ally beading door tops and front brakes
in 1925. No battery box or external horn in 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Chrysler B 70 Sedan
Another very interesting photograph
sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia),
a collector of old photos. "Please find attached a
small printscreen of a photo from a collection of my fellow collector.
Is it possible to ID this captured vehicle?" --
Photos of previous captured vehicles have generally been European so it
is interesting to note that this one is an
early American made in Detroit by cpmpany founded only about a year
earlier. This is a
cca 1925/6 Chrysler B 70 Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
DKW E300 Motorcycle
Facebook photo from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) with no background asking
for ID. Looks German? -- Considerable
family likeness in both appearance and enthusiasm about Daddy's new
bike. Motorbike made in Germany by Dampf-Kraft-Wagen, (steam-powered
car) in Zschopau started by Danish Jorgen Rassmusen in 1916. Made the
DKW car and was world's largest motorcycle manufacturer. This is c1927
DKW E300. DKW merged into Auto Union
1932 and became Audi, now Volkswagen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1929
Open-Top Charabanc
Puzzling photo received from Patricia
Morepiffle
(UK) asking if it is possible
for us to identify when and where this photo was taken. Her father is
far right (standing). He lived in Bristol and Croydon in the 1920s. --
It is difficult to identify location of a
specific tree countrywide! Bit of research though says 'Queen of the
Road' company was based in Fishponds Road in Bristol, so unlikely from
Croydon. The 'cloche' ladies hats, rudimentary windows and solid metal
wheels suggest cca
1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Austin Sixteen Six
Saloon
Couple of photos sent by G S Hancock (UK)
who isa trying to identify the
car in attached photos which we have slightly enhanced. No idea about
this car. Many thanks in anticipation of your response. --
Photo is dated 1936. Registration
CRF 465 is County Cuncil of Stafford, early 1934, so the car is about
two years old in that photo. The 'A' on the bumper and winged badge
symbol on the radiator, as well as wing not scuttle mounted
sidelights advises this is a
cca 1934 Austin Sixteen Six Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
Rover 12 P1 Six Light Saloon
Difficult photo received from Paul
Beardsley
(UK) asking if it is
possible to say anything about the model and date of the two cars in
the attached picture? --
The car on the right is a little easier as
it is a production model 1934-1936 from a range of 12s 1905 to 1948.
This one later became known as the P1 with a 1496cc four engine on an
underslung chassis. Body was steel panels on wooden frame. Two x three
side windows so this is a
cca 1935 Rover 12 P1 Six Light Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1939
Humber Pullman Special Limo
Difficult photo received from Paul
Beardsley
(UK) asking if it is possible to say anything about the model and date of the two cars in
the attached picture? --
The car on the left is very difficult
because it is a rear view of a coacbuilt car that is very pixly. Sloping
back, no rear spare, number under bumper, 3 sets windows, forward
opening suicide doors (one open?), and quite big wheel hubcaps.
Probably a
cca 1939 Humber Pullman Special Limousine by Trupp &
Maberly, 4086 straight 6.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1952
Dodge Fargo Model B Pick-up
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
received this photo from s friend and both wondered what it was.
They think that this photo was taken in about 1966 in Dorset. It is
intriguing as to the make of this truck? --
Probably a British vehicle made in Kew, in West London, by an American
company from Detroit USA formed by the demise of Maxwell Chalmers and
the formation of Chryser Corporation which was swallowing other demised
companies. This is a
cca
1952 Dodge Fargo Model B Pickup.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1953
Tempo Hanseat Pristiche
Cinema screen grab taken from a German musical film" Wie werde ich
Filmstar?" (How Do I Become a Film Star?) made in 1955 where cars are being investigated by
IMCDB. Story of a couple of hopeful girls who fall for a hoax film test
fraud. --
Interesting popular vehicle in Germany
made by a company founded in 1924 in Hamberg, confirming three-wheelers
s were not only made in UK. This is a
cca 1953 Tempo Hanseat which from the
photo seems to be the Pristiche pick-up, 15HP 396cc.
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