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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,000 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 FIAT Tourers
Interesting but much distorted photo received from Michael Davies (UK) taken outside grandfather's farm suppliers shop in Pwllheli, near Anglsea. Cars may well be same age and make. My grandfather is standing alongside driver of the first car.  --  Interesting cooling holes on box by front wing. Left car registration possibly 'UH' Cardiff ?? and right 'E' is Stafford, midlands. Our Ariejan Bos boss thinks from curved Mercerdes-type radiator both are cca 1905 FIAT Tourers, possibly 16'20

1905 FIAT Tourers

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Panhard Levassor 8HP Tonneau
Lovely detailed photo received from Michael Streuli (UK)  asking fort the car make, date etc. Is it a Daimler? Under photo is written “Chequers Hotel, Hawley”. A 'Hawley' in Camberley Surrey? Family lived in London, so perhaps hotel car?  -- There was a Chequers Hotel in Horley, stopping place on the London-Brighton Run?  Registration is Southampton C Council. A Chequers in Newbury and Pulboro. The car is not a British Daimler but a French a cca 1903/04 Panhard & Levassor 8HP Tonneau. 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 NAG Tourer
This seems a photo-of-a-photo received from Pavel Chirkov (Russia?) who would like to know the make and model of the car in the photo. The photo was taken in Russia, Chernihiv province before 1915.   -- This would be in the north-central part of Ukraine, closest big town Kiev. The enquiry is headed 'Delaunay Belleville?' as favored by the Tsar?  No this is a German car made in Berlin by a company that was AEG but renamed to NAG. This is a cca 1906 NAG Tourer, probably the 5.2 L four cylinder.

1906 NAG Tourer in Ukraine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 Darracq 18'22hp Double Phaeton
Dark photo-of-a-photo sent by Daniel Yeates (UK) from a  member of his local history group showing a family member and asked if we could identify the car. Possibly an early Darracq, Coach built?  -- All would have been 'coacbuilt'.  We have slightly enhanced photo and our Ariejan Bos confirms the handle on the steering column suggests a cca 1908 Darracq 18'22hp Double Phaeton. Larger 4 cylinder models do not have this handle. For the bigger seats the chassis must have been extended,

1908 Darracq 18'22hp Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Lovely period photo sent to us by Ian Steadman (UK) of grandfather, Albert Steadman, of Ashtead, chauffeur and valet to Mr. Mears at Forest Lodge, Ashtead. Wartime he drove for the Royal Flying Corps.  -- This one was identified by our Ariejan Bos as a Rolls Royce Open Drive Limousine. From the size of the vehicle it is one of the bigger ones, so a 40/50 HP Silver Ghost, 7,428cc Six. The scuttle shape suggests cca 1911/12. The Silver Ghost was made 1906 to 1926, 7,874 cars made

c1911 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Delaunay Belleville HB6 
Lovely period photo sent to us by Ian Steadman (UK) of grandfather, Albert Steadman, of Ashtead, chauffeur and valet to Mr. Mears at Forest Lodge, Ashtead. Wartime he drove for the Royal Flying Corps.  -- This is a French car made by a boilermaking company in the north of Paris at Saint-Denis, and favored by the Tsar of Russia. It  was confirmed by our Ariejan Bos as a Delaunay Belleville,  and largish car so  looks like a probably cca 1910 HB6 25 HP Open Drive Landaulette.

1910 Delaunay Belleville HB6  Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Weigel Tourer
Lovely period photo sent to us by Ian Steadman (UK) of grandfather, Albert Steadman, of Ashtead, chauffeur and valet to Mr. Mears at Forest Lodge, Ashtead. Wartime he drove for the Royal Flying Corps.  -- This one, crashed, on HP131. Quite unique car,  identified by Ariejan Bos as c1909 Weigel Tourer, probably 20HP. Weigel were from London UK, ex MD of Clement-Talbot, mainly few large 20/30/40HP cars including 13/15L Grand Prix cars. Chassis by Wilkinson Sword.  Closed  in 1909.

1909 Weigel Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Darracq Rear Entrance Tonneau
Photo from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for further details of what it was.  -- Interesting segmented roundish bonnet confirmed by our Rory Sinclair, who had similar car, that this is a fine French made cca 1903 Darracq 24HP Rear-Entrance Tonneau, probably the 24hp model. Made at Perfecta Work Suresnes, near Paris, from halfway 1903, and first with a honeycomb rad core.  It looks as if the Darracq ignition timer is just to the left side of the crank handle.

1903 Darracq 24HP Rear Entrance Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Pierce Great Arrow Tourer
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a request by Tim in Vermont requesting identification of vehicle.  -- Quite a difficult one which required the help of our veterans expert Ariejan Bos in Holland. Ariejan advises this is a cca 1906 Pierce Great Arrow Tourer, possibly the 24'28. Very American in appearance, but no detachable rims yet. Made in  Buffalo, New York, 1901 to 1938, also motorcycles. George Pierce sold all rights in the company in 1907.

1906 Pierce Great Arrow Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1950 Reyonnah Microcar
Photo from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for further details of what it was.  -- A quirky little French Reyonnah four-wheeler. Front wheels could be parked 'inboard' reducing parking width but pushing the nose up. Developed by Parisian Robert Hannoye and made in small numbers 1950 till 1952. Tandem seating. A single-cylinder 175 cc engine, three speed gear box and a chain drive to rear wheels.  Girl in photo, Paulette Dubos, French actress of over 250 films.

1950 Reyonnah Microcar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Spyker C4 Tourer
Photo from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking naming of year and model.  -- A tight oval radiator surround is relatively unusual and points to very few cars, one being Spyker from Amsterdam in Holland founded 1880 who built the Golden Coach in 1898 for Dutch Crown. This is one of the last cars, a cca1921 Spyker C4 Tourer with a Maybach six cylinder 5L engine, made under Spyker's financial problems and before company was taken over by Spyker's distributor in Britain.

1921 Spyker C4 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Wolseley 16'20 Tourer
Lovely Photo received from Pat Caldwell (UK) asking for help tp identify the car bveing used by a group of soldiers, Her husband has been given four boxes of family photos and they would like as much identification as possible to pass on to their grandsons.  -- Ariejan Bos advises this is a Wolseley. Wolseleys had distinguished career in WW1, many donated for the effort and many made during the war. Round scuttle, but gas and oil lamps, pre WW1 so  likely a cca 1911 Wolseley 16'20 Tourer.

1911 Wolseley 16'20 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Belsize 14'16 Tourer
Lovely Photo received from Richard Cannon (UK) asking for help with identifying the car, possibly Darracaq, driven by his Grandfather Harry Batchford, a coachman later chauffeur, one of first one hundred people to hold a driving licence in Essex. He also went through WW1 as batman to his boss. -- Not a French car but British, made at Belsize Woks, Manchester, by Marshall & Co 1897, changed name to Belsize Motors in 1906. This is medium sized car, so a cca 1909 Belsize 14'16 Tourer.

1909 Belsize 14'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Praga V  Flatbed Lorry
Photo from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting asking for further details.  -- Interesting that we should get second photo of vehicle on this page of same make, 20 years apart. Sign on the rad says this is a cca 1914 Praga Model V Flatbed Lorry as used by the Austro Hungarian Army in 1916, very much stuck in the mud. Over a thousand made by First Bohemian Moravian Machine Factory in Praha Libno. Interesting cyclops headlamp, and is that a small coal-gas burner??

1914 Praga V  Flatbed Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938 Praga Lady Saloon
Photo from Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a forum posting suggesting photo may have been taken in Poland. No other information known. Perhaps Jawa?  -- Jawa is a Czechoslovak car built by a motorcycle manufacturer. Right country, - wrong car. This is a cca 1938 Praga Lady Saloon. First introduced in 1935 and continued to 1947 being produced in Prague. Originally 1447 enlarged to 1661 cc. capable of 68mph 24mpg. 5,000 made. Also made Isotta Frascni under licence.

1938 Praga Lady Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Rover Ambulance
Puzzling photo received from Michael-Peter Börsig (Germany) from Rover Freunde Deutschland, investigating photo of men with a Rover Ambulance. Can we identify the uniforms? --  With help from Rootschat Forum we can advise photo may have been taken in early 1921 of a possibly Rover 14 with two  civilian Ambulacemen and possibly a bunch of UK army Ambulancemen. Joint training exercise? The Ambulance was probably registered in Edinburgh, Scotland. More info on Rootschat.

1921 Rover Ambulance

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924 Wills Overland Model 91 Sedan
Couple of photos sent by Norm Haines, a photographer from  (USA) who is trying to date the car in attached photo which come without any back-story.   --  The earlier of the two photos shows a cca 1924 Wills Overland Model 91 Sedan. Overland cars were first made on 1903, fabricated in Indianapolis, USA, initially in a circus tent. The company was purchased by John North Willys in 1908 and renamed in 1912 as Willys-Overland.  In 1916 they were second largest  car maker to Ford. 

1924 Wills Overland Model 91 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Oldsmobile. Model 30 Sedan
Couple of photos sent by Norm Haines, a photographer from  (USA) who is trying to date the car in attached photo which come without any back-story.   --  Nice big American vehicle which our Mark Dawber first thought was a Pontiac but the curve of the front fender is wrong, then cheaper Peerless but the visor was wrong. Subsequently identified as a cca 1927 Oldsmobile. Model 30 Sedan. 1927 was the last year for that designation, they became F series after that; F-28, F-29, etc each year.

cca 1927 Oldsmobile. Model 30 Sedan.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Graham-Paige Sedan
Lovely photo received from Doug Cooper, Vancouver  (Canada) of a a car owned by his Grandfather. The photo was taken in Calgary, Alberta before 1952 for sure, and likely sometime in the late 1930s. Would appreciate any help to identify,  --  Big American car which our Mark Dawber advises is a cca 1929 Graham-Paige. The radiator has a slight vee, or at least curved front, to it. Very hard to say from this angle which model. Base model was 612,  but this could be next size up, 615. 

1929 Graham-Paige Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNKNOWN Early Tourer
Very small grainy photo received from Rachel Bloom  (UK) of a relative. They are trying to identify make and model of the car, believed to be c1908 but are not definite.  --  Regret our experts cannot make our anything significant from such a small grainy photo. We have asked for a bigger and better scan but have received no reply. Please note that if you are sending us a photo it should be the biggest practical resolution because it is the detail that identifies the carand/ or the specific model. 

UNKNOWN Early Tourer
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