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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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below relates to enquiries received during
2021 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Darracq Rear Entrance Tonneau
Photo from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum posting asking for
further details of what it was.
-- Interesting
segmented roundish bonnet confirmed by our Rory Sinclair, who had
similar car, that this is a fine French made cca
1903 Darracq 24HP Rear-Entrance Tonneau,
probably the 24hp model. Made at Perfecta
Work Suresnes, near Paris, from halfway 1903, and first with a
honeycomb rad core. It looks as if the Darracq ignition timer is
just to the left side of the crank handle.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904
Panhard Levassor 8HP Tonneau
Lovely detailed photo received from
Michael Streuli
Lovely detailed photo received from
Michael Streuli (UK)
asking fort the car make, date etc. Is it a Daimler? Under
photo is written “Chequers Hotel, Hawley”. A 'Hawley' in Camberley
Surrey? Family lived in London, so perhaps hotel car? -- There
was a Chequers Hotel in Horley, stopping place on the London-Brighton
Run? Registration is Southampton C Council. A Chequers in Newbury
and Pulboro. The car is not a British Daimler but a French a
cca
1903/04 Panhard & Levassor 8HP Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
FIAT Tourers
Interesting but much distorted
photo received from Michael Davies (UK)
taken outside grandfather's farm suppliers shop in Pwllheli, near
Anglsea. Cars may well be same age and make. My grandfather is standing
alongside driver of the first car. --
Interesting cooling holes on box by front wing. Left car registration possibly
'UH' Cardiff ?? and right 'E' is Stafford, midlands. Our Ariejan Bos
boss thinks from curved Mercerdes-type radiator both are cca
1905 FIAT Tourers, possibly 16'20
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
NAG Tourer
This seems a photo-of-a-photo
received from Pavel Chirkov (Russia?)
who would like to know the make and model of the car in the photo. The
photo was taken in Russia, Chernihiv province before 1915.
-- This would be in
the north-central part of Ukraine, closest big town Kiev. The enquiry
is headed 'Delaunay Belleville?' as favored by the Tsar? No this
is a German car made in Berlin by a company that was AEG but renamed to
NAG. This is a cca
1906 NAG Tourer, probably the 5.2 L
four cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
Pierce Great Arrow Tourer
Another photo from our regular
contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a request by Tim in Vermont
requesting identification of vehicle. -- Quite
a difficult one which required the help of our veterans expert Ariejan
Bos in Holland. Ariejan advises this is a cca
1906 Pierce Great Arrow Tourer,
possibly the 24'28. Very American in appearance, but no detachable rims
yet. Made in Buffalo, New York, 1901 to 1938, also motorcycles.
George Pierce sold all rights in the company in 1907.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Darracq 18'22hp Double Phaeton
Dark photo-of-a-photo sent by
Daniel Yeates (UK) from
a member of his local history group showing a family member and
asked if we could identify the car. Possibly an early Darracq,
Coach built? -- All
would have been 'coacbuilt'. We have slightly enhanced photo and
our Ariejan Bos confirms the handle on the steering column suggests a
cca 1908 Darracq 18'22hp Double Phaeton.
Larger 4 cylinder models do not have this handle. For the bigger seats
the chassis must have been extended,
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Belsize 14'16 Tourer
Lovely Photo received from
Richard Cannon (UK)
asking for help with identifying the car,
possibly Darracaq, driven by his Grandfather
Harry Batchford, a coachman later chauffeur, one of first one hundred
people to hold a driving licence in Essex. He also went through WW1 as
batman to his boss. --
Not a French car but British, made at
Belsize Woks, Manchester, by Marshall & Co 1897, changed name to
Belsize Motors in 1906. This is medium sized car, so a cca
1909 Belsize 14'16 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Weigel Tourer
Lovely period photo sent to us by Ian Steadman (UK)
of grandfather, Albert Steadman, of Ashtead, chauffeur and valet
to Mr. Mears at Forest Lodge, Ashtead. Wartime he drove for the Royal
Flying Corps. -- This
one, crashed, on HP131.
Quite unique car, identified by Ariejan Bos as
c1909 Weigel Tourer, probably 20HP.
Weigel were from London UK, ex MD of Clement-Talbot, mainly few large
20/30/40HP cars including 13/15L Grand Prix cars. Chassis by Wilkinson
Sword. Closed in 1909.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Delaunay Belleville HB6
Lovely period photo sent to us by Ian Steadman (UK)
of grandfather, Albert Steadman, of Ashtead, chauffeur and valet
to Mr. Mears at Forest Lodge, Ashtead. Wartime he drove for the Royal
Flying Corps. -- This
is a French car made by a boilermaking company in the north of Paris at
Saint-Denis, and favored by the Tsar of Russia. It was confirmed
by our Ariejan Bos as a Delaunay
Belleville, and largish car
so looks like a probably cca 1910 HB6 25 HP Open Drive
Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Napier 15HPTaxi
Another photo from our regular
contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) requesting identification. Photo
headed Murraygate Dundee. --
Dundee is in Eastern Scotland on the estuary of river Tay and is famous
for its University. Car in foreground is less well known model of the
famous manufacturer Napier. In the period 1908 to 1911 Napier
manufactured a Taci which exceeded their standard car production. This
is a
cca 1910 Napier 15HPTaxi. Behind is
probably a Ford Model T taxi.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Wolseley 16'20 Tourer
Lovely Photo received from Pat
Caldwell (UK)
asking for help tp identify the car bveing
used by a group of soldiers, Her husband has been given four boxes of
family photos and they would like as much identification as possible to
pass on to their grandsons. -- Ariejan
Bos advises this is a Wolseley. Wolseleys had distinguished career in
WW1, many donated for the effort and many made during the war. Round
scuttle, but gas and oil lamps, pre WW1 so likely a cca
1911 Wolseley 16'20 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Lovely period photo sent to us by Ian Steadman (UK)
of grandfather, Albert Steadman, of Ashtead, chauffeur and valet
to Mr. Mears at Forest Lodge, Ashtead. Wartime he drove for the Royal
Flying Corps. -- This
one was identified by our Ariejan Bos as a Rolls
Royce Open Drive Limousine. From the
size of the vehicle it is one of the bigger ones, so a 40/50 HP Silver
Ghost, 7,428cc Six. The scuttle shape suggests cca 1911/12. The Silver
Ghost was made 1906 to 1926, 7,874 cars made
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Praga V Flatbed Lorry
Photo from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum posting asking for
further details. -- Interesting
that we should get second photo of vehicle on this page of same make,
20 years apart. Sign on the rad says this is a cca
1914 Praga Model V Flatbed Lorry as
used by the Austro Hungarian Army in 1916, very much stuck in the mud.
Over a thousand made by First Bohemian Moravian Machine Factory in
Praha Libno. Interesting cyclops headlamp, and is that a small coal-gas
burner??
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1916 Singer 10 Cabriolet
Interesting newspaper cutting received
from Martin Marrop (UK)
showing a two-seater in front of Tottenham Palace Theatre, London 1919.
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Seems a scan of an earlier photocopy so all greyscale ID lost.
Difficult to determine make. No history available on the named people
so guessing were music-hall artists, so possible link to a
cca 1916
Singer 10 Cabriolet, with the lower rad. Palace Variety built 1908
later 'Canadian Cinema', then bingo hall, and now church 'Palace
Cathedral'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Spyker C4 Tourer
Photo from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum posting asking
naming of year and model. -- A
tight oval radiator surround is relatively unusual and points to very
few cars, one being Spyker from Amsterdam
in Holland founded 1880 who built the Golden Coach in 1898 for Dutch
Crown. This is one of the last cars, a cca1921
Spyker C4 Tourer with
a Maybach six cylinder 5L engine, made under Spyker's financial
problems and before company was taken over by Spyker's distributor in
Britain.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Rover Ambulance
Puzzling photo received from Michael-Peter
Börsig (Germany) from
Rover Freunde Deutschland,
investigating photo of men with a Rover Ambulance. Can we identify the
uniforms? --
With help from Rootschat
Forum we
can advise photo may have been taken
in early 1921 of a possibly Rover 14 with two civilian
Ambulacemen and possibly a bunch of UK army Ambulancemen. Joint
training exercise? The Ambulance was probably registered in Edinburgh,
Scotland. More info on Rootschat.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Wills Overland Model 91 Sedan
Couple of photos sent by Norm Haines, a
photographer from (USA)
who is trying to date the car
in attached photo which come without any back-story. --
The earlier of the two photos shows a cca
1924 Wills Overland Model 91 Sedan.
Overland cars were first made on 1903, fabricated in Indianapolis, USA,
initially in a circus tent. The company was purchased by John North
Willys in 1908 and renamed in 1912 as Willys-Overland. In 1916
they were second largest car maker to Ford.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927
Oldsmobile. Model 30 Sedan
Couple of photos sent by Norm Haines, a
photographer from (USA)
who is trying to date the
car in attached photo which come without any back-story. --
Nice big American vehicle which our Mark Dawber first thought was a Pontiac
but the curve of the front fender is wrong, then cheaper Peerless but
the visor was wrong. Subsequently identified as a
cca 1927 Oldsmobile.
Model 30 Sedan. 1927 was the last year for that designation, they
became F series after that; F-28, F-29, etc each year.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1927 Talbot Darracq 12CV Special
Cinema screen grab taken from a British
romantic drama film " At The Midnight Hour" made in 1998
where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of attempts of
selling of ancestral estate against owner's will.
-- Questioned if replica. Possibly
but probably not. Headlamps are wrong type and would not have been
brass, nor brass radiator and would normally have had wooden wheels.
Coachbuilt special on French
cca 1927 Talbot Darracq. probably the
12CV Sports Tourer, quite pretty.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
Graham-Paige Sedan
Lovely photo received from Doug
Cooper, Vancouver (Canada)
of a a
car owned by his Grandfather. The photo was taken in Calgary, Alberta
before 1952 for sure, and likely sometime in the late 1930s. Would
appreciate any help to identify, --
Big American car which our Mark Dawber
advises is a
cca 1929 Graham-Paige.
The radiator has a slight vee, or
at least curved front, to it. Very hard to say from this angle which
model. Base model was 612, but this could be next size up,
615.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1930 Opel 4'20 Saloon
Another very interesting photograph sent
to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is a collector of old photos. This photo was taken in Postncken in
1935. Can we identify car top left? -- He
has given us easier and bigger photos to work with in the past but we
are relatively sure this is a cca
1930 Opel 4'20 Saloon from Germany
(1929/31). Area was Samland in East Prussia before WW1 but is now part
of the Russian Federation in the Curonian Lagoon on the Baltic sea
quite near Lithuania
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934
Aston Martin Mk II
Photo received from our Member
Andrew Randall (UK) who
is struggling to
date photo and ID man filling the tank of his car,
possibly attendant, 1934
Aston Martin Mk II long chassis, taken 1946-1949 when it was in the possession of
a gentleman who
lived in Addlestone, Surrey. The location is
definitely Jackson’s Garage, Springfield Road, Horsham. Probably not war-time because the headlights
would have been blanked off, and petrol for private use was in short
supply -- Any
Help Please?!.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938
Praga Lady Saloon
Photo from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum posting suggesting
photo may have been taken in Poland. No other information known.
Perhaps Jawa? -- Jawa is a
Czechoslovak car built by a motorcycle manufacturer. Right country, -
wrong car. This is a cca
1938 Praga Lady Saloon. First
introduced in 1935 and continued to 1947 being produced in Prague.
Originally 1447 enlarged to 1661 cc. capable of 68mph 24mpg. 5,000
made. Also made Isotta Frascni under licence.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1950
Reyonnah Microcar
Photo from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a forum posting asking for
further details of what it was.
-- A quirky little
French Reyonnah
four-wheeler. Front wheels could be parked 'inboard' reducing
parking width but pushing the nose up. Developed by Parisian Robert
Hannoye and made in small numbers 1950 till 1952. Tandem seating. A
single-cylinder 175 cc engine, three speed gear box and a chain
drive to rear wheels. Girl in photo, Paulette Dubos, French
actress of over 250 films.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNKNOWN
Early Tourer
Very small grainy photo received
from Rachel Bloom (UK)
of a relative. They are trying to identify
make and model of the car, believed to be c1908 but are not definite. --
Regret our experts cannot make our anything significant from such a
small grainy photo. We have asked for a bigger and better scan but have
received no reply. Please note that if you are sending us a
photo it should be the biggest practical resolution
because it is the detail that identifies the carand/ or the specific
model.
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