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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page130 below relates to enquiries received during 2018Click on picture to enlarge
IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,000 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1904/5 Darracq Dos-a-Dos
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo which appeared on Facebook a short while ago lacking identification. The car looks to be an early Darracq - maybe?  -- Obviously not a totally reliable one; guess not many garages locally to call a mechanic out!  Our Ariejan Bos feels this is indeed a cca 1904/5 Darracq. The body is difficult to see,but is either a Dos-a-Dos or could be double tonneau with 2x2 opposite seats, rather popular at the time.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Riley 12'18 Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old Postcards, including those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go ! -- Identification feature of a round radiator on a relatively small car and a scuttle mounted fuel tank suggests cca 1908 Riley 12'18 Long Chassis Four Seat Tourer, having V-twin engine of 2113cc, unusually fitted with solid wheels, cost £247. 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908 Humber 15 HP Tourer
Couple of photos of the same car received from Caron Vinson (UK) saying " I'm hoping someone can help identify the make and model of this vehicle. I know the photo was taken in Wales in the early 1900's. The closest match is a 1909 Humber Tourer.  -- Well done, yes indeed a Humber Tourer. Typical Humber radiator. Dating features are similar hubs back and front wheels, rudimentary front driver's door and leather skirt. This would be a  Coventry made  cca 1908 Humber 15 HP Tourer.

1908 Humber 15 HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1911 Bentall Charabanc
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo which appaeared on Facebook asking for identification. The photo was very small and pixly and headed Martinborough c 1915. -- Martinborough is on the north island of New Zealand, not far from Wellington. The vehicle is quite unusual and British, from Maldon. It is a cca 1911 Bentall Charabanc, possibly 16hp. Bentall started 1790 making agricultural machinery. Cars 1906-12. Closed as part of Acrow in 1984.

c1911 Bentall Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1915 Enfield 10HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was puzzled by this photo which appeared on Facebook short while ago lacking identification. Artillery insignia on the radiator.  -- "Made like a Gun"  was trade mark of Enfield Cycle Company of Redditch, Worcestershire, making armaments and cycles. Enfield Autocar made cars from 1906. The Autolette had a similar radiator but we think this is the bigger cca 1915 Enfield 10HP Tourer made 1914-16.  Became Enfield Allday 1912. 

c1915 Enfield with the Prince of Wales in Greymouth (NZ), Royal Tour 1920

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916 Scripps Booth Model D Torpedo
Interesting enquiry received from John Wright (UK) saying" I have just got hold of an old photo of my grandfather with his car and chauffeur taken in about 1925. Is it possible someone could help with identifying the make? -- Quite an unusual car for UK as it is an American car built in Detroit. It became available in UK in 1916 only. This is a cca 1916 Scripps Booth Model D Roadster 4 Seat with V8 engine, costing £270. Chevrolet took over, grew as GM, dropped S-B name and products 1922.

1916 Scripps Booth Model D Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919 Morris Cowley Two Seater
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- Second from right is a Bullnose Morris carrying a registration FE 282# which was Lincoln CBC c1919. It is fitted with the three light system with the small headlamps on the wings. This would be c1919 Morris Cowley Bullnose Two Seater & Dickey, 1.5L 26bhp engine. 'Bullnose' came from the rounded radiator top first called 'bullet nose' !

1919 Morris Cowley Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919 Oakland Model 6-34 Touring
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- Far right is an American car which our Mark Dawber advised, after some investigation, is a cca 1919 Oakland Model 6-34 Touring made in Oakland County, county seat being Pontiac, Michigan; all not far from Detroit. Company was purchased by General Motors in 1909 and renamed in 1931 as Pontiac. Oakland name was discontinued 1931.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1920 Rudge Multi 500 Motorcycle
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- Our motorcycle expert Chas Moody has done some research and advises that the motorcycle on the left is a British 'Rudge Multi 500' of around 1920. Distinguishing features are square cut-out in the underside of the petrol tank to accommodate the overhead inlet valve mechanism; exhaust valve is in the lower, side valve position; tail pipe.

c1920 Rudge Multi 500 Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1922 Rover Eight Open Two-Seater
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- Second from the right is another British Light car of the era which became a major marque. This one has an air-cooled horizontally opposed twin side valve engine of 998cc with a notch in centre of the dummy radiator, and is a cca 1922 Rover Eight Open Two-Seater. Prices were coming down with mass production and base model cost £180. 

1922 Rover Eight Open Two-Seate

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Standard SLO4 Saloon
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- Far left without a numberplate so probably entirely new and unregistered is a cca 1923 Standard SLO4 Saloon which was rated 13.9HP. Identification feature is the the wrap-round core of the radiator which extends sideways below the header tank. This is a Four-Seater Tourer version,  no driver's door,  and then cost new £450.

1923 Standard SLO4 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Cluley 10'20 Open Tourer
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- Second from left with a 'trade plate' could also be entirely new and unregistered. Quite unusual car from Coventry by 1890 textile machinery makers Clark Cluley & Co. Cars 921 to 1928, this one being a cca 1923 Cluley 10'20 Open Tourer with four cylinder 1328cc engine, cost new £350. Returned to textile machinery 1928, finally closed 1987.

1923 Cluley 10'20 Open Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1923 Belsize-Bradshaw 9 HP
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these, and in particular, is one a Belsize?  -- Yes, carrying a registration BE 9371 which is Lindsey CC in Lincolnshire, but no precise dating data available. It is a cca 1923 Belsize-Bradshaw 9 HP, made by Belsize of Manchester, 1921-24 as separate model with 9HP 1370cc V-twin Dorman engine that was partly air-cooled and partially oil-cooled.

1923 Belsize-Bradshaw 9 HP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1924 Sunbeam 500cc Model 3
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- Our motorcycle expert Chas Moody has done some research and advises that the motorcycle on the right is also British, a Sunbeam side valve solo. ID/dating feature, dummy belt rim brakes.This would make it a cca 1924 Sunbeam 500cc Model 3. This would also tie in with the signage in the background saying they were Sunbeam distributors.

c1924 Sunbeam 500cc Model 3

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1925 Austin 12/4 Saloon
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by Christian Poulsen (UK)  taken in Northumberland and was wondering if anyone could identify which model Austen this was?  -- Registration NL is Norhumberland County C. The first number can only be a 6 or 8, with three other numbers. So either6 is 1924 or 8 is 1925. No later than December 1925  It would indeed seem to be a cca 1925 Austin 12/4 Saloon. It became known as the "Heavy Twelve Four" to differentiate it from the later "Light 12/6". 

1925 Austin 12/4 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927 Chevrolet Capitol Truck
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2017 Spanish film "Incerta GlÚria" (Uncertain Glory) being investigated by IMCDB. Film about war-torn Spain and young officer who falls for a deceitful femme-fatale.  -- Relatively difficult car to identify as dark and small picture. Not many identification features beyond  the just discernable widow's peak on the lower part of the radiator header tank' there for a short time. This suggests it being cca 1927 Chevrolet Truck, probably Series AA Capitol.

1927 Chevrolet Capitol Truck

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928 Chevrolet One Ton Bus
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2017 Spanish film "Incerta GlÚria" (Uncertain Glory) being investigated by IMCDB. Film about war-torn Spain and young officer who falls for a deceitful femme-fatale.  -- Vehicle is a small bus and rather well built and proportioned. Many features point to it being American and chassis length suggests a it being a lorry base. It was a vehicle built in many locations in USA and overseas, and is cca 1928 Chevrolet One Ton Truck fitted with bus body.

1928 Chevrolet One Ton Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1933 Citroen 8CV Rosalie
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2017 Spanish film "Incerta GlÚria" (Uncertain Glory) being investigated by IMCDB. Film about war-torn Spain and young officer who falls for a deceitful femme-fatale.  -- Relatively difficult car to identify as dark and small picture. Not many identification features beyond it being 1930s square car, apart from the unusual rear numberplate and lights position on the separate trunk. This suggests it as French and dates it as cca 1933 CitroŽn 8 CV Rosalie.

1933 Citroen 8CV Rosalie

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1933 Citroen Rosalie Boulangere
Cinema screen grab taken from a 2017 Spanish film "Incerta GlÚria" (Uncertain Glory) being investigated by IMCDB. Film about war-torn Spain and young officer who falls for a deceitful femme-fatale.  -- Car is obviously a Citroen Van but not immediately obvious as to precise model. Identification features are a horisontally split windscreen, single wiper, no crest but a badge on a sloping slightly veed rad with chevrons and canvas van sides. All points to cca 1933 Citroen Rosalie Boulangere.

1933 Citroen Rosalie Boulangere

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1941 Chevrolet C15 CMP
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) sent this photo showing a NZ military vehicle, asking it is a Morris and suggesting that the trailer looks to be a Bren Gun Carrier chassis.  -- Not a Morris, which would have been British, but an American vehicle made in Canada to specific British requirements for use by Commonwealth Armies; 850,000 made! This is a cca 1941 Chevrolet C15 CMP (Canadian Military Pattern) with type 12 cab identified by having two-part radiator grille.

 c1941 Chevrolet C15 CMP Truck

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1951 Ford Custom Deluxe Convertible
One of number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify photo of a car in Belgium in 1956??  -- Fuzzy photo and not one immediately familiar to me, so was advised by our Mark Dawber that it is American Ford. Flagship model car for the period, this is a cca 1951 Ford Custom Deluxe Convertible. It was one of the best US selling convertibles in 1951 with 40,000 sold. Top-of-the-line, it had a 100-HP flathead V-8.

1951 Ford Custom Deluxe Convertible

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1955 Oldsmobile Model 88
Another photo received from Charles Dagenais (France) saying" This time around I have this car to identify, please, from video screen capture of the car in Montreal, fall of 1955, distant neighbours, their name is uncertain.  -- This is a car made by American car company founded 1897 which had made over 14 million vehicles and closed down as one of the oldest in the US in 2004 as part of GM. This is a cca 1955 Oldsmobile Model 88. Difficult to tell from the photo if Sedan or  Coupe. 

1955 Oldsmobile Model 88

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1966 GAZ Volga M21 Saloon
Father's day card received by one of our members with caption "I have problems with emissions" says dad;  "... and the car keeps backfiring too! "  Any idea which car is depicted??  -- The car looks American and the name-badge on the wing starts with a 'B' which would have helped had it actually stood for a B rather than a 'V' and had it been American. Actually built on the banks of the river Volga, Russia, it takes its name. Badge helps in dating, making it the  Mark 3   cca 1966 GAZ Volga M21.

1966 GAZ Volga M21 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unidentified Two-Stroke Motorcycle
Lovely big photo received from Andrew Moore (UK) showing a group of cars and motorcycles in front of a dealership. Can we help with any of these?  -- The centre motorcycle shown in this picture has beaten our experts. One comment was " Possibly French Gnome et Rhone, small capacity model. They had that shape tank." Another comment was "The little two stroke is a puzzle - could be a Diamond but the name on the tank doesn't seem like it could be that."  " May have to admit defeat."

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: We still Need Help !
In 2006 we received  a photo from Chris Strohmeyer, California (USA) of a fiberglass special with a 1940 Ford chassis and flathead V-8 engine.  -- Not in our period nor strictly within our sphere of interest but we did put the photo on the Help Pages in the hope that somebody knows something. We have now (2018) had comment from Chris Morin saying "Isn't that a Devin?"  Our subsequent investigations suggest possibly not as most Devins had a curved windscreen and faired lights??

Probably not a Devin
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