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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1900 Fouillaron 3.5 Two Seater
Another photo posted on a forum of old photos where the vehicle is not identified.
We have seen this couple of times as 'photographers prop'. Similar to the Italian Ceirano, French Corre, Fouillaron and Renault. No known connection with Ceirano, but Fuillaroin and Corre were joint directors of a company making quads but also selling Renaults. All almost identical so this could well be a Fouillaron-Corre badged 1900 Renault 3.5HP Type C, powererd by De Dion single engine.

1900 Fouillaron 3.5 Two Seate

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1904 Panhard & Levassor 4HP
Cinema screen grab taken from an American Sci-Fi film "Top Kids" made in 1987 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story about teenage computer hackers time transporting a young Formula 1 driver Niki Lauder to race in a 1904 Grand Prix. -- A very 'back to the future' type romp starring very young kids and made for very young kids simplified history of motoring thorough American type eyes. This would seem a genuine cca 1904 Panhard & Levassor 4HP Wagonette.

1904 Panhard & Levassor 4HP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1904 Rex 10HP Tonneau
Lovely photo received from our Member auto historian Nicholas Young (UK) who wrote the door-stopper encyclopedia 'Car Number Classics' detailing histories of original cars/owners of first registrations issued 1904 UK. -- E 44 is Stafford County Council Registration which started January 1904. Photograph is from printed text document. Our veterans Expert Ariejan Bos has the full picture which was taken from the 1904 Autocar advising it is a cca 1904 Rex 10HP Tonneau. Read More History.

1904 Rex 10HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1904 Clement-Gladiator 10HP
Another photo posted on a forum of old photos where the vehicle is not identified. No history provided with this one.
-- Research advises another website has same photo stating car is in front of King Edward VII bridge under construction in NewCastle-u-T. The bridge was designed by a Charles Harrison of North Eastern Railway comprising four lattice steel spans resting on concrete piers and was opened by the King in July 1906. Car is c1904 Gladiator 10HP Rear Entrance Tonneau.

1904 Clement-Gladiator 10HP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1904 Clement-Gladiator 9L GP
Cinema screen grab taken from an American Sci-Fi film "Top Kids" made in 1987 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story about teenage computer hackers time transporting a young Formula 1 driver Niki Lauder to race in a 1904 Grand Prix. -- A very 'back to the future' type romp starring very young kids and made for very young kids simplified history of motoring thorough American type eyes. This is a cca 1904 Clement-Gladiator 9L Grand Prix, four cylinder, or replicar.

1904 Clement-Gladiator 9L GP

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1905 Mobile 8HP Two-Seater
Lovely photo received from our Member auto historian Nicholas Young (UK) who wrote the door-stopper encyclopedia 'Car Number Classics' detailing histories of original cars/owners of first registrations issued 1904 UK. -- EA6 is a West Bromwich CBC Registration which started January 1904. West Bromwich is a suburb of Birmingham. Our Ariejan Bos again had the answer that this was a very unusual c1905/6 Mobile 8HP Two-Seater made in the UK in Birmingham. Read More History.

1905 Mobile 8HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1906 Argyll 16'20 Tourer
Interesting moody but very pixly old photo showing Cecil Hepworth leaning on an old car, Hepworth being one of the founders of the British film industry. Can we advise the make of car?  -- We have looked into Cecil Hepworth's cars on Help Pages 33 and 174 , and note that this is the third car with same registration. Our Ariejan Bos confirms this is a Scottish made car from Alexandria, near Glasgow, and that it is a cca 1906 Argyll 16'20 Tourer.    Read Previous History.    Read More History.

1906 Argyll 16'20 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1908 Lorraine Dietrich Tourer
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum of old photos asking for identification. Nothing known. -- Great photo. Averts on houses and rad shape suggests France. This is a cca 1908 Lorraine Dietrich Tourer, probably the 20HP. Earlier cars by Ettore Bugatti. Most made in Lunéville, Lorraine, France or in Alsace Germany. Bought Isotta Fraschini 1907. A British De Dietrich manufacturing company introduced the 20HP car in 1908 Birmingham .

1908 Lorraine Dietrich Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1909 Lancia Beta Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from
an Italian film "Il Conte Tacchia" (Count Tacchia) made 1987 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Based on  Italian nobleman Adriano Bennicelli living at turn of 1900s.  -- This is an Italian car made in Turin by a company started in 1906 by the son of a soup canner who made his money in Argentina. Son became an accountant to Ceirano but eventually became Fiat racing driver Vicenzo Lancia. This is his second model and is cca 1909 Lancia Beta Torpedo.

1909 Lancia Beta Tor

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1912 Theophile Schneider Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a German documentary 'culture' film "Die Stadt der Millionen" (The City of Millions) made 1925 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. First film portrait of the newly awakened German self-confidence in a modern, peaceful and cheerful capital in 1925. -- Scuttle bonnet leading to a large brass rear 'dashboard radiator' but which is not taller than the start of the scuttle. This is French cca 1912 Theophile Schneider Tourer, likely bigger 16CV.

1912 Theophile Schneider Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1914 Humber 14HP Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a British film "The Day They Robbed the Bank of England" made in 1960 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story set 1901 about Irish independence using an American to rob the Bank of England  via a long forgotten sewer that goes right under the vault. -- The car is a little bit blurred and pixly to investigate but has a Fiat-like tall pointed radiator, slightly curved bonnet and cut-off front mudguards suggesting it is cca 1914 Humber 14HP Tourer.

1914 Humber 14HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1914 Unic Charabanc
Cinema screen grab taken from
a French Documentary Film "Le Soldat Inconnu Vivant" (The Living Unknown Soldier) made in 2003 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Soldier back from WW1 prison camp with amnesia. --  Recognisable by bullnosed front, this is a cca 1914 Unic Charabanc. Unic was founded by Georges Richard after he left Richard-Brasier and with Rothschild's steady financial support. Made cars and commercials, taxis for 20 years, became FIAT in 1966.

1914 Unic Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1918 Fiat 2B Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from
an Italian film "Il Conte Tacchia" (Count Tacchia) made 1987 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Based on  Italian nobleman Adriano Bennicelli living at turn of 1900s.  -- This is an Italian car made in Turin by Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino originally formed in 1899 by Geovanni Agnelli and was for many years the largest auto maker in Europe. This is the cca 1918 Fiat 2B Torpedo known also as 52B, 2815cc four,  1912-20. Now Stellantis.

1918 Fiat 2B Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Replica 1919 CMN Racer
Cinema screen grab taken from
an Italian film " Ferrari" made in 2003 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story inspired by real life Italian Enzo Ferrari, the founder of Ferrari cars.  -- Film is about son of a furniture maker but budding auto engineer, Enzo's first job in 1919 as 'works driver' for CMN of Pontedera. The badge is CMN logo, while the car may not be, this being probably one of a number of 'made-for-movie' replicars, having 30s electric lights, in the 1919 Targa Florio ??

Replica 1919 CMN Racer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1920 Mathis Model P Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a German documentary 'culture' film "Die Stadt der Millionen" (The City of Millions) made 1925 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. The first film portrait of the newly awakened German self-confidence in a modern, peaceful, hectic and busy and cheerful German capital in 1925.--  Small car, headlamps on a horizontal bar, with a triangular style of radiator with a circular logo and pointed wings. This is French cca 1920 Mathis Model P Torpedo.

1920 Mathis Model P Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1921 Stoewer D 3 Limousine
Cinema screen grab taken from a German documentary 'culture' film "Die Stadt der Millionen" (The City of Millions) made 1925 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. First film portrait of the newly awakened German self-confidence in a modern, peaceful and cheerful capital in 1925. --  This car has a spitzkuhler radiator, with a body colour surround, and twin headlights each side with a connecting badge bar and suggests a German cca 1921 Stoewer D 3 Limousine.

1921 Stoewer D3 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1923 Renault 18 CV Tourisme
Cinema screen grab taken from a German documentary 'culture' film "Die Stadt der Millionen" (The City of Millions) made 1925 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. First film portrait of the newly awakened German self-confidence in a modern, peaceful and cheerful capital in 1925. --  Has a scuttle bonnet with a circular logo which goes directly to the scuttle with no radiator so must have rear grille on the bonnet. This is a French cca 1923 Renault 18 CV Tourisme Open drive.

1923 Renault 18CV Tourisme

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1925 White Model 50 Charabanc
Cinema screen grab taken from various French TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Series was based on Maurice Leblanc's gentleman master thief Arsène Lupin who was featured in over 50 stories starting in 1905.
-- Vehicle from an American company started within dad's White Sewing Machine factory 1900 and becoming main USA steam vehicle maker. Introduced gasoline engines 1911. This is c1925 White Model 50 gasoline charabanc.

1925 White Model 50 Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1930 Unic H3 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from various French TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Series was based on Maurice Leblanc's gentleman master thief Arsène Lupin who was featured in over 50 stories starting in 1905.-- This is a car from France made by Georges Richard after he left the first company he founded. This is a cca 1930 Unic H3 Saloon which was powered by 8 cylinder engine. Unic also made Taxis and name is still on Fiat lorries.

1930 Unic H3 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1930 Vauxhall 20'60 Saloon
Another puzzling grainy and damaged old picture posted on a forum of old photos asking for identification of the vehicle.
--  Relatively easy start in identification as the car has the flutes starting from the front of the bonnet and radiating to the windscreen; Flutes for many years were the sign of the Anglo-American Vauxhall company, became GM 1925.
Registration is GH 6327 which is a London County Council Registration of 1930' big model was the 20'60, so cca 1930 Vauxhall 20'60 Saloon .

1930 Vauxhall 20'60 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1934 Minerva M4 Berline
Cinema screen grab taken from various French TV Series "Arsene Lupin" made 1971-90 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Series based on Maurice Leblanc's gentleman master thief Arsène Lupin who was featured in over 50 stories starting in 1905. -- This is a car from a Belgian company started in 1902 who had Charles Royce as their UK Representative and main export market. Used by various Royalties. This is a cca 1934 Minerva M4 Berline. Merged with Imperia soon after.

1934 Minerva M4 Berline

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  c1939 FIAT-SPA 38R Light Truck
Cinema screen grab taken from an Italian film " Ciao Nemico" (The Bridge Between) made 1987 where vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Story about Italian and Americans In WW2 trying not to take a bridge.
-- The FIAT-SPA 38R light truck powered by a 4l 55HP four cylinder engine was developed by FIAT in 1933 and was one of the most common vehicles in the Italian Army during WW2, in all theatres, as troop transport, ambulances, gun carriers,  vans etc, made until 1948.

c1949 FIAT-SPA 38R Light Truck

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1948 Hillman Minx II Saloon
Another i
nteresting photo received from Ivan (Barbados) which is rather faint and damaged showing a derelict car in a nigh-time field., not ideal. -- Identifying any car is down to experience of the overall look of a car, British/ European/American, approximate year, finding the make, and eventually down to confirming finite little details which will nail the model and hopefully. So, British, late 1940s, make Hillman, headlamps in the wing so earliest 1948: 1948 Hillman Minx II Saloon.

1948 Hillman Minx II Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Unknown c1910 Two-Seater
Lovely photo received from our Member auto historian Nicholas Young (UK) who wrote the door-stopper encyclopedia 'Car Number Classics' detailing histories of original cars/owners of first registrations issued 1904 UK. -- EN 85 is a Bury CBC registration (Lancashire). Photo is cut-down version of a postcard which also had written on it 'Fildes Bros, Motor Experts, Preston Lancashire, with text "This is one of own manufacture". Whose own?? No trace of Fildes car Read More History.

Unknown c1910 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Unknown c1920 Vehicle
This photo received from Adrian Pascu-Tulbure (UK) relates to Romania and is the same we received from Cicos Florin in 2013. Do we know what this is? -- Regret no ID then, nor now. The two chaps draped over the car block out most of the features, but even with clever air-brushing and reverse cloning all we can deduce is that this is probably a commercial or military vehicle, which has right hand drive, has no front brakes, has robust build, probably of cca 1921-5, resemblance Daimler.

Unknown c1920 Vehicle
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