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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1906
Pope Toledo Type XII Touring
Fabulous photo of a lovely car received
from Lora Devereaux (USA) inherited
by her cousin from her mother. They are guessing the photo was
taken in Minnesota where the family was from. They are hoping the car
can be identified, with the year, which will help narrow down who is in
the photo. -- Really
nice photo of a 1906
Pope Toledo Type XII which had 35-40HP
four cylinder engine and which cost, according '06 Gas Auto
Handbook, $3,700 with top. See earlier on history
of Toledo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
CGV 25CV Side Entrance Tourer
Series of photographs received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Gardens became overgrown. Is this a Renault? --
Same country, different make: Charron-Girardot-Voigt. This is a cca
1905/6 CGV 25CV Side Entrance Tourer.
Same reg as the Rolls on this page; probably had it first. Confirmed by
our Bryan Goodman who had a quite similar 40HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907
Metallurgique-Maybach
Photo of a photo received from Steve
Walters (UK)
asking what is it? -- One
of our experts knew!! This is the 1907
Metallurgique-Maybach restored by the
late Douglas Fitzpatrick; Metallurgique chassis fitted with a WWI
Maybach 6-cylinder aero engine of 21 litres. Project started around WW1,
abandoned at a large country estate and finished off by Fitzpatrick in
the 1950s. It has been raced in VSCC meetings as recently as last year.
Radiator maker's then badge featured star of David motif.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
GC 8HP Light Car
We were contacted by Chris Reynolds (UK)
of Hertfordshire Genealogy website which helps people with local
and family history in Hertfordshire. This photo taken August 1910 at
Stagenhoe Park, shows student Dudley Tacon in a car that needs
identification. --
CL434 is Norwich 1908. Our Bryan Goodman is the only one who came up
with an answer on the car which was a 1908
GC Light Car with Sultan 8HP engine
made by Automobiles GC H. Guyot et Cie, Paris, only in 1908.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908/9
Swift bonnet
Photo of a bonnet received from Jon Kennedy (Eire)
which he found in his farm yard in Dublin. He searched and found a
reasonable match on our website in a 1908 Swift Tourer but the
numberplate is earlier? -- We
agree that 1908/9
Swift is a likely match. IK266 reg is
2/3 years earlier than bonnet. No data is left on early Irish numbers
and we have been advised by Irish enthusiasts that earlier
authorities may have been lenient on unused or transferred
numbers, current dates vary.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Series of photographs received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Gardens became overgrown and house eventually
sold off as flats. --
Registration LN2837 is London CC1907
but the car is a
1910 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost chassis no 1243,
engine no 43, sold by agent A B Wardman of London to Captain J. Tremayne
of Cornwall, tested Feb 1910. Gone !
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Darracq Tourer
Lovely period photograph received from
Patrick Evans from Newbury (UK)
who is from this town and has recently returned to it. The photograph
came from his old History teacher Mr Anderson and Patrick has been
trying to find the approximate date. --
Registration AA #754 is Southampton
County Council and ranges from 1903 to 1717. The first digit, which I
cannot make out, would narrow it down accurately. Need a
magnifying glass !! Horses are still about, - so likely
to be pre WW1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
White Touring
Series of photographs received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Was Convalescent Home in WW1. Gardens became overgrown and house eventually
sold off. --
Registration AF1850 is Cornwall early
1917. Ident is not positive as hand painting complicates, but a number
of us agree that the car is an American cca
1916 White 45 Touring, or Maxwell
25.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1919
Fiat 18 BL Bus
Lovely photos received from Mario
Majarich (Australia) who
came with parents from the Dalmatian island of Losinj. His father was
the first with a Taxi and trucks on the island. Not a family one, but
what is the bus that was the first to do the route from Osor
through to Veli Losinj? --
We are relatively sure from the spoked wheels,
louvered bonnet and chain drive that this was a cca 1913 FIAT 18BL Bus.
Produced 1915 to 1921 and used extensively in WW1 including
British and French armies.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1919 Fiat 15TER Fire Engine
Lovely photos received from Mario
Majarich (Australia) who
came with parents from the Dalmatian island of Losinj. This Fire Engine
was on Mali Losinj and was sent to him by one of his correspondents
whose uncle is at the wheel. Taken in 1952 of a vehicle abandoned for a
number of years and eventually restored. Is it a Lancia? --
No, this is a cca 1919 15TER Fire Engine.
15TER lorries were made 1911 to 1920 and widely used until the 1940s.
Lights/rear wheels later, probably 1920s.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1921 Lancia Kappa Bus
Lovely photos received from Mario
Majarich (Australia) who
came with parents from the Dalmatian island of Losinj. His father was
the first with a Taxi and trucks on the island. These postcards show harbour of Veli Losinj. Not a family one, but what is the bus? --
This indeed is a Lancia. Lancia chassis
were frequently used for the manufacture of busses and charabancs. Many
even made their way to the UK and were popular. This seems a cca
1921 Lancia Kappa Bus
in lovely scenery.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925 Citroen 5CV Model C
We were contacted by Chris Reynolds (UK)
of Hertfordshire Genealogy website which helps people with local
family history in Hertfordshire and has a page which helps dating
old photographs by the cars in them. This photo shows Colliers End and
perhaps a Bullnose Morris. --
Sorry wrong country. Likely built in
the UK but car is French. Essex CC registered, this is a
1925 Citroen
5CV Model C , as RHD, probably built in Slough, Bucks.
Difficult to tell if a Tourer or a Trefle, not Cabriolet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925
Morris Cowley Two-Seater
We were contacted by Chris Reynolds (UK)
of Hertfordshire Genealogy website which helps people with local family history in Hertfordshire and has a page which helps dating
old photographs by the cars in them. This one has a badge that is
unrecognisable but could be a Bullnose Morris. --
Bullnose Morris indeed, Reg from Hertfordshire early 1925. Our Chas
Moody advises small radiator, no front wheel brakes, flat sided rear
bodywork : 1925
Morris Cowley Two-Seater with Dickey.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Audi Type SS Zwickau Pullman
Another photo received from Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of 1920s/30s photos he purchased on-line recently. The car
looks slightly American. The badge on the radiator vaguely resembles
the Cadillac crest. Do we have any idea what it could be? --
Absolutely not, and nor could anybody
else. Srange radiator/badge. Not until Pepcak from Prague cracked it by
saying it is a cca
1929 Audi Type SS Zwickau Pullman saloon,
with bankrupt Rickenbacker engines.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930 Skoda 430 Saloon
Another photo received from Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of 1920s/30s photos he purchased on-line recently. The car
looks slightly American. Location is Grossglockner High Alpine
Road in the Austrian Alps. --
Another difficult one which took
absolutely ages to crack but finally we have it: Czech cca1930
Skoda 430 Saloon. Powered by a 4
cylinder 30HP 1331 cc engine, five body styles, 3028 made
between 1929 and 1932. Licence plate is
Czech, Bohemia 1932+.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930
Mercedes Benz L1000 Truck
Lovely photos received from Mario
Majarich (Australia) who
came with parents from the Dalmatian island of Losinj. His father was
the first with a Taxi and trucks on the island. Mario thought this was a
1913 Lancia. His father also had a Mercedes Benz lorry in WW2. --
Not 1913 and relatively sure not a Lancia.
Took a lot of searching but we are now
relatively sure this is a cca
1930 Mercedes Benz L1000 Delivery Truck.
War came along very few years later so was likely used during the war.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Rosengart LR2 Faux Cabriolet
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British BBC Mini Series "Box of Delights" made in
1987, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Based on the
children's book set in 1934 about an
artifact dating from pagan times that allows the holder to manipulate
time and space. --
As it seems to have the wrong wheels, a cca
1930 Rosengart LR2 Faux Cabriolet
made in France under licence from Austin UK as 7. Otherwise
special bodied Austin 7 of same period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932
11CV Unic Coupe
Another Photo received from Job van Huizen
(Holland) asking if
the SVVS could help him identify this car. He took the photo in the
North of France but has not been able to identify the year and model. -- From
the two rows of bonnet cooling louvers this seems to be a cca 1931/2
11CV Unic Coupe. There was a larger 8 cylinder 15CV car with a similar
layout but this had a figure 8 under the Unic logo on the radiator core.
Coachwork maker's plate is on bulkhead just
forward of the door.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1933
Coventry Eagle 250cc
Another photo sent in by Lindsay Crawford
(Australia)
this time of a motorcycle that is quite unusual. No info on the people
but the photo was taken in about 1936. --
During the early 1930s a number of
motorcycle manufacturers in a number of European countries used pressed
steel frames rather than tubular frames. This included BMW, Zundapp and
Russians. This one however is British, one of the first, a cca
1933 Coventry Eagle 250cc Silent Superb
due good silencing.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1934
Sunbeam 500cc 95L Motorcycle
Another smashing photo sent in by Lindsay Crawford
(Australia)
this time of a motorcycle. He does not remember this one, but does
recall Dad talking about his 'BSA' - which may have been this one, photo
taken in August 1942. -- No
info on the lady or the reluctant dog,
but we can say it is not a BSA. Our Chas Moody has identified that it is
a Sunbeam. Exhaust and chain seem to be on the 'wrong sides' which
narrows it down to cca 1934 Sunbeam
95L, fast OHV single
cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934
Crossley-Burney 2L Saloon
Interesting cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British BBC Mini Series "Box of Delights" made in
1987, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Based on the
children's book by poet laureate John Masefield, set in 1934 about an
artifact dating from pagan times that allows the holder to manipulate
time and space. --
Filmmakers certainly manipulated time by placing a 1930 registration
number on a very unusual 1934 Crossley-Burney rear engined 2L Saloon
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936 Nash Ambassador
Fuzzy photo received from Ron Pratt (USA)
taken in Greensburg, Pennsylvania. That is him on the right when
he was 5 years old, and the girl is his cousin. The car was owned by his
Grandfather who lived in Adamsburg. When he passed away in 1948, the
auto was passed on to his father. -- The
pointers to this one are the waterfall grille to the top, headlamp
mounted on mudguard, the pointed bumper overriders, and importantly, sidelights low on the wing and molding
below light.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937
Excelsior Pioneer 150cc
Another photo sent in by Lindsay Crawford
(Australia)
this time of a motorcycle somewhat more battered. Picture shows him on
it and he can make out 'Excelsior' on the tank. This photo was taken in
1948. -- Battered
indeed as bike is about 11 years old by then. From the position of the
carb, hand gear change and pressed steel type of forks, this is a cca
1937 Excelsior Pioneer 150cc Motorcycle.
Similar 'Empire' model had twin exhausts which cannot be seen on this
photo so unlikely.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1914 Unknown Estate Utility
Series of photographs received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family and
convalescent home WW1. --
Such a very poor series of photos that none of our experts were even
prepared to go out on a limb and take a guess. Registration AF11## is
Cornwall CC 1914. Bonnet has some resemblance of
Lorraine Dietrich
but rad badge is of the type on Fiat/Peugeot/Vinot. Seems chain drive.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1914 Unknown Landaulette
Photograph received from Chris Pownall (UK)
who is publishing a book shortly which contains the photo of rear end of
a car. --
Regretfully ident is not possible
because all the important features are hidden. Not normally possible to
tell early cars by bodywork as made by external coachwork companies.
Body is a Landaulette with a relatively crinkly roof suggesting an early
hood from about 1900 to 1914 (cca WW1). After this the
hoods would have been much tauter and
crinkle-free.
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