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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca1890 Shand Mason Fire Pump
Photo received from Gillian Fynes (UK) from the Oswestry Family & Local History Group saying she has a photograph of a fire engine/cart that they are trying to put a date to so they can research the fireman's lives. -- This is slightly outside our scope of involvement but some diligent investigation suggests from the square cylinder this is a cca 1890 Shand Mason Steam Fire Pump. Made in various forms from 1870 to 1900s and used well up to/including WW2.  Similar to Merryweather.

cca1890 Shand Mason Steam Fire Pump

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Argyll 16'20 Tourer
One of a number of lovely photos received from Larry Bannon (UK) from the local village archive. Lord of the Manor was Henry Brooke, of Ashbrook Towers. Possibly them in photo. Request for information on make model, etc for the village website.  -- Village is Church Minshull in Cheshire but registration T 930 was a Devon County Council issue from late 1906. The reg couldn't be further in UK from its original place of manufacture in Scotland, being  cca 1906 Argyll Tourer,  probably 16'20.

1906 Argyll 16'20 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Horch 12-28ps Phaeton
Cinema screen grab of a Vehicle which appeared in a German documentary "Ein Auto für eine Mark" (A car for a Dollar) made in 2005 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The documentary was about the East German 'Trabant' budget car made from Duro-Plast. Interesting to note that a 1969 hatch prototype was stopped by the Russians but saw daylight in 1973 as the VW Golf 1.  --  This was cca1911 Horch 12-28ps Phaeton. August Horch left 1909, founded Audi.

1911 Horch 12-28ps Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Metallurgique 14HP Speedster
Photo from David Shouksmith (UK) saying his grandfather was a keen  photographer from the 20s to the 60s, leaving around 650 negatives. This shows grandmother and an aunt sometime around 1955 at a 'car rally'. -- Enlarging the photo shows the event was in Harrogate and the VCC plate helps to confirm the car is a Belgian cca 1911 Metalurgique 14 HP Speedster with a boattail body by Van den Plas, also of Belgium. Identified later as  ST 303 then owned by CMR Hardy. Now musem USA.

1911 Metallurgique Speedster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Berliet Double Phaeton
One of a number of lovely photos received from Tuttle Bunbury, Co Carlow (Eire) saying he has a couple of cars he is seeking to identify the make and model of , The first is in the accompanying watercolours from a 1920 album of his Great-Grandmother, including a wonderful interior of the car. -- Locations seem Bolderwood in the New Forrest, May 1920. The car featured has an LM registration which is London County Council, late 1914.  The car is a French  cca 1914 Berliet Double Phaeton,  22CV? 

1914 Berliet Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca1919 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
One of a number of lovely photos received from Tuttle Bunbury, Co Carlow (Eire) saying he has a couple of cars he is seeking to identify the make and model of. The second is also on watercolours from a 1920 album of his Great-Grandmother. -- Location is Romsey near New Forrest, May 1920. No reg visible. Features the Berliet and another car having very little detail.  The car with conical wheeltrims  is generally of the 1920s style being a  cca 1919 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost Open Tourer.

cca1919 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Audi Type C Alpensieger
Cinema screen grab of a Vehicle which appeared in a German documentary "Ein Auto für eine Mark" (A car for a Dollar) made in 2005 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The documentary was about the East German 'Trabant' budget car made from Duro-Plast. Interesting to note that a 1969 hatch prototype was stopped by the Russians but saw daylight  in 1973 as the VW Golf 1.  --  This was cca 1919 Audi Type C Alpensieger.  Audi was a break-away from Horch.

1919 Audi Type C Alpensieger

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920 Austin 20'4 Tourer
A couple of photos received from Mohammed Luqman from Dubai (UAE) saying they have recently bought a big vintage Austin. Can we please help them to  identify this model? And can we help with spares needed as they embark on the restoration project.  -- Regret we cannot help with any spares as we have no facilities for handling this. They could try the Vintage Austin Register.  From the photo and  body shape, this  looks  like a "modified"  cca 1919 / 20 Austin Twenty - Four Tourer.

1920 Austin 20'4 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Enfield Allday 10'20 Tourer
Photo from Alistair Shields (UK) of Ralph Emmerson married to his Great-Aunt Jeannie Emmerson. Ralph was a coal gas contractor in Scotland living in Glasgow. -- Rare photograph showing the maker's name. This is a cca 1922 Enfield Alldays 10'20 Tourer. Enfield started 1906 and was bought by Alldays & Onions 1907, but production merged 1919. 10'20 introduced 1921. Company collapsed 1924, having made about 100 10'20s and 10'30s. Body by same supplier as to Aston Martin.

1922 Enfield_Allday 10'20 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Oldsmobile Four Passenger Coupe
Fascinating photo from Matthew Aurand, Pennsylvania (USA) saying he is a volunteer for his local historical society and they are trying to identify the  make, model and year for this vehicle. Can we help? -- No, but we knew somebody who could. Our friends at the AACA put their thinking hats on and after a few false starts did arrive at the correct answer, which proved it was not too easy! This is cca 1923 Oldsmobile Four Passenger Coupe. Drum headlights in '23, slanted louvers end '24.

1923 Oldsmobile Four Passenger Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Wolseley 10hp Two-Seater
Birthday card received by our 'Morris Man' Chas Moody from his friends Helen & Geoff. The card had been hand made and had this picture on the front. Geoff recognised the rad but not the car. Chas asked for our confirmation.  -- Chas had nominated seven possibilities and top of the list was a Wolseley. His first guess was indeed correct as this is a  cca 1923 Wolseley 10HP Two-Seater with Dickey. Bulkhead sidelights suggest the year. By cca 1924, these were mounted on the mudguards.

1923 Wolseley 10HP Two-Seater with Dickey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Austin Seven AB Tourer
Grainy small photo received from David Gilchrist of Glasgow (UK) saying " I attach a photo of an unknown (to me at least) car taken at my home somewhere in the period 1918 - 1923 near Glasgow, Renfrewshire. I was hoping it was an Argyll, but can anyone identify it please ? -- Registration GB is Glasgow CBC and likely late 1923/24. Regretfully the car was not made in Alexandria, Scotland but in Longbridge, Birmingham.  Not an Argyll.  This is a  cca 1924 Austin Seven AB Tourer.

1923 Austin Seven AB Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Voisin C3L Saloon
Cinema screen grab of a Vehicle which appeared in a French film " Les amitiés particulières" (These Special Friendships) made in 1964 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film was about fifteen-year old boy and his relationship with his teacher in a strict French Jesuit religious school.  --  Very little of this interesting car is showing but that which is, the winged emblem depicting a bird in flight, signposts us neatly at Avions Voisin, Paris,  cca 1923 Voisin C3L Saloon.

1923 Voisin C3L Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Wolseley 16'35 Tourer
Rather gorgeous photo received from Llewelyn Morgan (UK) who is a Tutor in Classics at the 500-year-old Brasenose College, Oxford. Photo from collection of Aurel Stein, Hungarian traveller and archaeologist taken at Bamiyan, Afganistan, where the great Buddhas stood until the Taliban destroyed them in 2001.-- The definition of the car is rather poor but radiator is just recognisable. Front brakes so post 1924 but no lights tie bar.  This  looks  much  like a  cca 1926 Wolseley  16'35  Tourer.

1926 Wolseley 16'35 AC8 Tourer at Bamiyan Buddhas, Afganistan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Chrysler 72 Four Door Sedan
Photo received from Philip Tepper (UK) saying" The attached photo shows my grandfather alongside one of his cherished vehicles, c1930 I'd think. I would be delighted if someone could tell me what make and model it is? -- Glad to be able to help. Registration BA 7073 is Salford County Borough Council and issued in late 1928. The car is American having been manufactured in Detroit Michigan by a company that was started only in 1924. The car is a cca 1928 Chrysler 72 Four Door Sedan.

1928 Chrysler 72 Four Door Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Ford Model A Standard Phaeton
Photo received from Jesus Sosa, Mexico City (Mexico) saying his father bought this taxi many years ago from a beautiful town Campeche in the south east. Unfortunately he died two years ago and was not able to restore the car. Jesus now wants to get as near to the original as possible.  -- Triangular body molding down forward of front door and external door handles say this is a 1929 Ford Model A Standard Phaeton, which has had some non original extra chromework added to.

1929 Ford Model A Standard Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Cadillac Series 37-65 Sedan
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Looks to be a Diplomatic Vehicle from the CD plate. Another American car from the General Motors Co., made in Michigan, named after the French founder of Detroit, who took the title of Sire of Cadillac, a village in France near Toulouse. This is a cca1937 Cadillac Series 37-65 Touring Sedan, V8 logo.

1937 Cadillac Series 37-65 Touring Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1949 Austin A40 Devon Saloon
Another photo received from our regular contributor Raoul Rainer from Stutgart (Germany) from a batch of photos he purchased recently and has on line. Must mention that the kind chap has sent me a lovely big identification book on German cars. Makes all my work worth while!!  --This is a British Austin, in Canada. A70 had spat covering rear wheel and longer chrome strip. Picture shows curved bottom mudguard which suggests A40. Has four doors, so , a cca 1949 Austin A40 Devon Saloon.

1949 Austin A40 Devon Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1953 Peugeot 203 Four Door Saloon
Photo received from our Singer Expert Simon Bishop (UK) saying he has been asked to identify this car which is thought to be a Simca or perhaps a SAAB ? -- Regret both are wrong. This is the rear view of a Peugeot 203 of which some 770,000 were made 1949 to 1960. This has rear numberplate light with see-through lenses which was used up to cca 1952. It also has a flap over the petrol filler cap which came in cca 1953, which suggests this is a cca 1953 Peugeot 203 Four Door Saloon.

1953 Peugeot 203 Four Door Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1955 De Soto Firedome Grille on??
Intriguing photo received from Michelle Overfelt (USA) part of a collection  taken by father who recently passed away. Her son (his grandson) is making a scrapbook of the photos but cannot ID this one.  -- Not enough!  My researches indicate that the grille and headlamp were used on the cca 1955 De Soto FireDome and FireFlite but hood position/ shape is wrong. Our friends at the AACA have suggested that this could be a  De Soto grille  on a custom  Ford  or a custom Mercedes.

1955 De Soto Firedome Grille on ??

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca 1962 Kellyson J6 Panther
Brief email from Robert Pratt (USA) simply saying "Can you identify this vehicle? Thanks, Robert", and attaching this photo. -- Normally we ask for some background to the photo but it looks an abandoned car in factory lot. Not British and we had no ideas, - but our friends at the AACA, specifically Hanski from Finland, advised this was a 1960s Kellyson J6. Jim Kellyson made many hundreds of magnificent fibeglass bodied cars near Sacramento. 550 off J6 bolted onto a Corvette chassis.

cca 1962 Kellyson J6 Panther

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified Side Entrance Tourer
One of a number of lovely photos received from Tuttle Bunbury, Co Carlow (Eire) saying he has a couple of cars he is seeking to identify the make and model of. This could be a Rolls-Royce by the granite front door of his family home in Ireland,  with chauffeur out front, not sure what he's wearing either!? -- Almost impossible photo to identify as not much to see. Regret I don't think it is a Rolls Royce by the shape. Relatively sure the chap in the fur coat is the owner; chauffeur by door.

Unidentified Side Entrance Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown pre-WW1 Two-Seater
An intriguing photo received from Jim Taylor (Spain) who is an English teacher in Barcelona, saying that during his family tree research he came across an old photo of his great-great grandfather who lived in Bury, Lancs. Jim would love to know which car it is and also the approximate date.-- Regret despite much head scratching amongst our experts no answer has been forthcoming. Simply not enough showing to help. Date is  going to be  pre WW1, cca 1913.  Sunbeam is  a possibility.

Unknown pre-WW1 Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown cca 1919 Tourer
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Quite frankly, - no!  This is another photo that has done the rounds of our experts and nobody has come up with any positive conclusions. General thought is that the car could be French but the high mounted bonnet handles are very confusing. Normally on  round bonnet  cars, which this may be not?

Unknown cca1919 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown cca 1925 Large Vehicle
Another batch of fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is?  --  Regret another no !  The two chaps draped over the car block out most of the features,  but even with clever air-brushing and reverse cloning all we can deduce is that this is probably a commercial or military vehicle, which has right hand drive, has no front brakes, has robust build, probably of cca 1925.

Unknown cca1925 Large Vehicle
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