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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 51 below relates to enquiries received
during
2012 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902 De Dion Bouton
RE Tonneau
One of two photos
received from Frank Hunter (UK)
which he was given of cars
belonging to his ancient relatives. This photo was taken in India and
may well have been one of the first cars on that continent. Could be a
Renault or De Dion Bouton --
Not a Renault as these in period had side
mounted radiators, then rear. The two lever posts beside the steering
column, nine louvers, un-joined mudgurds, and un-enclosed and
un-surrounded radiator, a cca
1902 De Dion Bouton 8 HP RE Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Clement
Rear-Entrance Tonneau
Lovely period photo
received from Kirstin Sibley (UK)
who acquired it around 5 years ago. Original has label of
Covent Garden framer so probably taken in London. Looks pretty similar
to a 1903 Clement-Talbot rear entry tonneau ?
-- Good
research, nearly correct. This is indeed a cca
1903 Clement Rear Entrance Tonneau.
1903 cars were imported complete from France. In 1904 they were part
UK-made and cars were Clement-Talbot. By about 1905'6 only Talbot
name was used.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Possibly
cca 1905 Mercedes Phaeton
Another from a lovely batch of photos
received from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
This is not a positive identification as
same quality coach-built bodies could be on a number of cars and
coachbuilder would be responsible for mudguards, running boards and
ancillaries of their own design. From the very plain bonnet with small
clips this could be cca1905 Mercedes phaeton, poss 50HP. Headlamps are
perhaps French.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907
Maxwell HB Pickup Truck
Photo originally from H.T.King of the
Hanover Iron Works in Wilmington North Carolina (USA)
who are trying to identify the make and
model of a truck used by their business. Suggestion is that the photo
was taken sometime around 1910. --
The make of the vehicle is relatively easy
to identify if you notice the flared
lower bonnet which hides a two cylinder engine and a separate flap
mid each side for direct access to the spark plug. This seems cca
1907 Maxwell HB Pickup Truck from
the 9 louvers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909 Bleriot landing at Dover
Interesting puzzle posted on the AACA Forum
relating to a request from UK
for identification of the car in background of photo relating to the
first cross-channel flight which ended in a crash landing at Dover on
25th July, 1909. -- This
original photo has been repeated many times but we have not been able to
find a high resolution enlargement to have a close look at the car which
at this magnification is unrecognizable. If anybody knows, please tell
us. Possibly a cca 1907 Argyll Side Entrance.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909 Bleriot at
Victoria Station
Interesting second puzzle resulting from the AACA Forum
dealing with Bleriot's landing at Dover on
25th July, 19097. This relates to make of car greeting Bleriot at
Victoria Station. --
Carries a registration LB 5500 which is not the 1908 Napier which
carries the plates now! The Napier was apparently directly exported to
the USA where it remained until the 1970s before returning UK. General
feeling amongst our experts is that the car at Victoria is deffinately
not the Napier but a cca1909 Mercedes!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Darracq Two-seater & Dickey
Another from a batch of photos received from John Dunn (UK)
asking for help in identifying the car.
Photo was a postcard produced by his uncle Charlie Pinchbeck who was a well
known Hull event photographer. The back of the photograph gives
chapter and verse saying it is a 1910
Darracq, 12.5HP, 3 speed, twin
engine (!) with a Dorkfern & Mahogany Body (?), fitted with brown
leather seats and a 'Dicky' seat at the back. --
Well, not much there to argue with, is
there?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer
One of two photos
received from Frank Hunter (UK)
which he was given of cars
belonging to his ancient relatives. This photo was taken probably in UK
which he cannot identify, but the clue is probably the badge on the
radiator/bonnet . -- Actually
not much help really as the badge on the top of the radiator cap is a
RAC motoring organisation badge. However the shape of the bonnet and
louvers of the car are quite distinctive, as indeed are wheel hubs.
Body suggests this is a cca1911
Sunbeam 12'16.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912 Opel Ambulance
Another from a lovely batch of photos
received from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
German made Ambulance in use in Hungary.
Smart crew despite muddy conditions. This is a cca 1912 Opel
Krankenwagen (Ambulace), probably on the 50HP 1.5 ton lorry
chassis. Noticeable pointers are wooden wheels rather than disc,
Pneumatic tyres rather that solids, oil and gas lighting,
& rounded rather than flat mudguards.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
American Tourer
Photo received from Gillian Fynes (UK)
who is copying photographs from the
collection that Oswestry Library holds so they can to go on line on
their new website. There is no info on the photo but they were
just after a rough year, though the car details would be fantastic.--
We advised that from the wheels, and
that the car has no headlamps showing they were removable gas
lamps, the car is
American
cca 1912. Friends at the
AACA could not help, and best guess is 1912 Cartercar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1915 Daimler Ambulances U2T
Another from a lovely batch of photos
received from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
Two lovely pictures showing Hungarian
soldiers and medics next to their cca 1915 Daimler U2T Ambulances.
Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft made cars under the Mercedes name from 1902
but continued making commercials under the Daimler name. Type U series
started in 1912 and U2T trucks and ambulances were made up to 1921.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922 Rugby
Star Touring
One of a number of photos received from
Andrew Woods, Brisbane (Australia) who
is doing some research on his family and came across these pictures.
This is notated 1928. -- Despite
later sending us much higher res photos, guess the original picture
quality was poor because it is difficult to see detail. He thought is
was the same car as in the photo with a trailer. Quite different. Looks
to us like a cca
1922 Durrant Touring which was called
the Star in USA, and Rugby in Oz & elsewhere.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923 AC 12HP Two-seater
& Dickey
Photo received from Bill Stothard (UK)
of the Cudworth History Group who have sent us earlier photos
for identification. This was discovered in the memorabilia of
the late father of one of their group members; no indication of what,
where, when etc. --
No louvers on bonnet and square air vent
on the bulkhead, so cca 1923 AC Two-seater/Dickey. Model is from the
1920/28 range of 10hp, 12hp, and 12/24 four cylinder cars. Two ranges
of trim: basic was 'Empire' and deluxe was 'Royal'. Can't
tell.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923 Ford Model T Touring
Recently discovered lovely period photo received from
Peter Hughes (UK)
asking if we can identify the car his
great grandfather is driving in Sweden. He thinks it might be a 1923
Ford Model T Tourer, but is unsure. --
Transverse front spring and typically
dished steering wheel confirms Model T. The windscreen is slightly
raked which means that it is 1923 and later, and six bonnet louvres
that it is not post 1925. So the suggestion that this is a cca
1923 Ford Model T Touring is very probable.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925
Oakland 6'54 Sports Tourer
In 2011 we received a photo from Trae
Hancock, American in Denmark, where we suggested the car is a
cca 1925 Oakland 6-54 Sports Tourer,
but could not identify the hotel complex called Holmsborg.
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We have since received information from
Gerd Youmans
(Norway) that the
building was commissioned by Dr Ingebrikt Holm as a Sanatorium for lung
diseases. He died soom thereafter and the building became 'Vertakollen
Touristhotel'. In 1990 it became the
Oslo
Montessori-skole.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926 Essex Six Phaeton
Another from a lovely batch of photos
received from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
This one shows a very muddy American car
which was at the top of its range, being a cca 1926 Essex Six Phaeton.
It can be relatively accurately dated because it has the nickel plated
radiator which did not come into use until July 24th, and the whole
shape of the radiator was completely altered (Hudsonised) in
1927. USA cost $795.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928 Ford Model A Phaeton
Another from a lovely batch of photos received from
Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
Picture seemed familiar so looked through
our records and found that we have two other photos of this car on Help
Page 46. Same registration but at one time it was black letters on white
background, then possibly a taxi. The car as a cca
1928 Ford Model A Phaeton well
wrapped, like the owner, for ferocious Romanian winters.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Romanian Car Exhibition
Another lovely bach of photos received from
Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
Pictures show car exhibition in very
imposing building which features Dodge and Renault cars. The Dodge car
shown is a Victory Six built in 1927 and introduced in 1928. The Renault
car is a Mona Six but with a scuttle bonnet and rear radiator so is the
1927 model. 1928 models had radiator/grille at the front. This
suggests the exhibition was cca 1928.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Citroen C6 Familiale Luxe
Another from a lovely batch of photos received from
Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
Picture seemed familiar but we could not
find it in our records. There must have been some very lively agents for
American cars in 1920s Romania. Many of the photos from Florin feature
American cars so it is nice to actually get one which is European. This
one is French, and is a cca 1929 Citroen C6 Familiale Luxe, no
hub-caps.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Nash Standard Six Sedan
Another from a lovely batch of photos
received from Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
Another American Car, being a cca 1929 Nash
Standard Six Series 420 Sedan. Relatively accurate model and dating from
chromed bowl headlamps without a peak (being peaked on the 'Advanced'),
with single row of vertical louvers (being double row on the
'Special'), and double bar bumpers. Cost new in 1929
$955 in USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928'9 Ford A & 1927 Chevrolet AA
One of a number of photos received from
Andrew Woods, Brisbane (Australia) who
is doing some research on his family and came across these pictures.
This is notated December 1932. Car with trailer was owned by his
Grandfather A.W. King who is the son of J.C. King Jnr. --
Camping in the Outback. The first two cars
are cca 1928 and a cca 1929 Ford Model A Touring. The third car is very
fuzzy but with a peak on the rad, so our friends at the AACA suggest a
cca1927 Chevrolet AA Coach.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1960
Ford Popular Saloon
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British TV series "Gideons Way" made in
1965, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Featuring
Commander George Gideon of New Scotland Yard in authentic London
settings in 1964-5. Made in Elstree and in parallel with The Saint,
shearing the music. --
The car being investigated was in the foreground left of the photo. The
rear lights indicated this was a cca
1960 Ford Popular 100E Saloon.
Two ranges of Pops built 1953-59, - 62.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Glider
Launch Vehicle?
Photo of an unusual military Vehicle
received from Janis Dumpis from Riga (Latvia)
seemingly of East German (DDR) origin.
-- We
regret this enquiry is a little bit too specialised for us. Our
knowledge base relates mainly to the general veteran and vintage vehicle
scene, but we have no experience in military vehicles. However, we note
that the chap is looking to the sky, and there seems to be a cable
coming out of the back of the vehicle, which suggests this could be a
glider launch vehicle.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unknown Tourer in Romania
Another from a lovely batch of photos received from
Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. --
This picture we have received before and it
has done the circuit of all our experts without anybody being able to
provide an identification. We are relatively sure this car is European
and has very imposing high headlamps of a Teutonic pattern hiding the
all important radiator. Interesting pointed front mudguards. Could be
cca 1925 Audi?
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unidentified
Two-seater Duck's-back
Intriguing photo
received from Neil McMurdo (UK)
taken near Burnmouth, Berwickshire, Scitland and on Facebook
page called Burnmouth Past . -- Actually
a very difficult one which we have not been able to crack. The body is
very attractive with a Dickey Seat in the back, and is very reminiscent
or is a copy of of the 1923/32 Alvis 12'50, which it is not. The body
style is called " Ducks Back ". Subsequently identified by
Tim Harding Help
Page 55 as cca 1926 Rover
9/20 Sports.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some of the earlier photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated, as would any corrections. Other
more recent unidentified pictures are normally at bottom
of each Help Page, above this panel.
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