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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly c1905 Speedwell
Lovely period photo received from Melanie Davis (UK) asking for help with identifying the make of vintage two seater. She likes it particularly as it seems to have the whole family around it. Believes the N registration plate locates it to Manchester? -- Yes, but not a vintage but a veteran car. Unusual and difficult to identify but our experts definitely think a French Lacoste et Battmann product sold under various 'badged' names. Shape of rad fins looks like the UK version cca 1905 Speedwell.

Possibly c1905 Speedwell

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Vauxhall 12'16 Tourer
Photo-of-photo from albums of John Hardy (UK) showing Grandfather Greaves marrying Grandma Dickson at Dudleston 1909. --  Registration  AP 2199 was East Sussex CC 1906. Bonnet flutes advise it is a Vauxhall. At this period had the 12/16 model and 18hp chain-driven model. So this is cca 1906 Vauxhall 12'16 Tourer. Company started as Alex Wilson 1857, became Vauxhall Ironworks in Wandsworth 1903, became Vauxhall Motors with move to Luton 1908, and General Motors in 1925.

1906 Vauxhall 12'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Renault 20'30 Landaulette
Rather nice photo received from Charlotte Coulson (UK) on behalf of Robin Budenberg who is trying to identify this rather grand car for his father? -- The registration appears to be N 89 which was Manchester CBC and would have been issued 1904. The car is however a little later and likely reused a registration showing to be one of the earliest of motorists. The car is French, a rear opening Landaulette and being a big car,  it is most likely a cca 1907 Renault 20'30 Open Drive Landaulette

c1907 Renault 20'30 Landaultt

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Hupmobile Model K Touring
Rather dark crinkly period photo received from Stewart Would (UK) of a touring car. What would we be able to tell him about BT 1903. -- Proved to be a difficult one to identify, eventually by Schacht of the AACA. Two things conspired ; the badge seems to have been used for that model and that year only and; the AA badge is hiding the tall radiator filler cap which would otherwise have led us to look at Hupmobile. From the split of windscreen it seems to be the cca 1915 Hupmobile Model K Touring.

1915 Hupmobile Model K Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Ford Model T Depot Hack
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- Obviously a cca 1919 Ford Model T Depot Hack. Ford made the chassis,  external companies made the bodies. Term comes from Depot (or Railway Station) and Hack (for Hackney or Taxi). Later terminology would be Station Wagon, and the vehicle would be used to transport passengers to their hotels.

1919 Ford Model T Depot Hack

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920 Chalmers 35 Touring
One of a number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos. Can we identify the car in a snapshot recenly purchased and  taken in the USA, California. No date is known. -- Relatively unusual car made in Detroit by company founded by Hugh Chalmers buying into Thomas Detroit and renaming it Chalmers Detroit. Merged with Maxwell Automobiles 1922, ending all production in 1923.  This is a  cca 1920 Chalmers 35 Touring.

1920 Chalmers 35 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably 1923 Stoewer D5 Tourer
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this car is? -- Twin lights suggest a Teutonic origin car, or possibly Italian. Unfortunately the radiator is fitted with a stone guard which disguises rad. Suggestions of Austrian Puch or German Stoewer. Badge is large and possibly oval and badge bar between headlights,  both favour the cca 1923 Stoewer D5 Tourer.

Probably 1923 Stoewer D5 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Packard 236 Touring
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- Obviously this car had seen better days and no doubt got repaired, but is far from home so bits would have probably been difficult to source. No story on accident but this is a Detroit, American, cca 1925 Packard 236 Touring. Packard started 1899 and merged with Studebaker in 1954. Name dropped 1959.

1925 Packard 236 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Packard Six 426 Sedan
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- Another American car, this one made in Detroit, Michigan. Started by brothers James and William Packard in 1899 in Warren as New York and Ohio Automobile Company. Renamed Packard Motor Co and in 1902 moved to Detroit. Merged with Studebaker 1954.This is a cca 1926 Packard Six 426 Sedan.

1926 Packard Six 426 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Oakland Greater Six Touring
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- Another American car, this one made in Pontiac in Michigan. Company started in 1907 making cars designed by Brush (of the Brush Runabout).  Was taken over by William Durrant of General Motors in 1909. This is a cca 1926 Oakland Greater Six Touring. Cars renamed Pontiac 1926, ceased 1931. 

1926 Oakland Greater Six Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Renault Vivasix Torpedo
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- This is a French car recognisable by the scuttle bonnet long after other companies had stopped using that fashion. The diamond logo on the bonnet helps in dating. This is a cca 1927 Renault Vivasix Torpedo made between 1926-1930 and fitted with straight 6 engine of 3180 cc, rated at 52 CV.

1927 Renault Vivasix

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Renault NN Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a French comedy film "La folle histoire de Max et Leon" made in 2016 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of a couple of lads who join up at beginning of WW2 and soon find they want out. Escapades include impersonating officers.  -- This is a French car with the recognition feature of a no grille scuttle bonnett which advises Renault. With a diamond logo and radiator discharge grilles at rear of engine this is a cca 1927 Renault NN Torpedo.

1927 Renault NN Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Bugatti Type 40 Grand Sport
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- This is a French car, made by a company started in Germany in 1909, which became France, by an Italian engineer and versions of which were also manufactured in Britain. This is a cca 1927 Bugatti type 40 Grand Sport Tourer. These were made 1926-1930 and
used the 3-valve 1.5 L four cylinder engine.

c1927 Bugatti type 40 Grand Sport Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Hupmobile Century Touring
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- This is another American car, which took a  little bit of work to identify. Made in Detroit by company started in 1909 by Bobby Hupp, ex Oldsmobile and Ford. Hupp left and formed RCH. This is a cca 1928 Hupmobile Century Touring. Hupmobile Motor Car Corporation went into bankruptcy in 1940.

1928 Hupmobile Century Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Marmon 8-69 Sedan
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- Another American car, relatively unusual, made in Indianapolis, Indiana by a company originally founded in 1851 making air-cooled V twin cars in 1902. Quickly gained reputation for fast upmarket cars. This is a cca 1930 Marmon 8'69 Sedan. Merged in 1931 with Herrington into 4 wheel drive & busses.

1930 Marmon 8-69 Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Hotchkiss AM 80 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a French comedy film "La folle histoire de Max et Leon" made in 2016 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of a couple of lads who join up at beginning of WW2 and soon find they want out. Escapades include impersonating officers.  -- Very dark and indistinct nighttime scene making identification very difficult. If the photo is considerably lightened it is possible to make out the cross cannons logo of the French cca 1931 Hotchkiss AM 80 Saloon.

1931 Hotchkiss AM 80 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Renault Monasix RY2 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a French comedy film "La folle histoire de Max et Leon" made in 2016 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of a couple of lads who join up at beginning of WW2 and soon find they want out. Escapades include impersonating officers.  -- This is a French car with the recognition feature of a scuttle shape bonnet, but this bonnet has a front grille and no side gills or air louvres,  all of which advises this car is cca 1931 Renault Monasix RY2 Saloon

1931 Renault Monasix RY2 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably 1931 Plymouth Roadster
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- Another American car but the photo of the car is small and indistinct, and it is therefore very difficult to be certain. Our Mark Dawber thinks this is a cca 1931 Plymouth PA Roadster. Plymouth was a division of Chrysler Corporation offering cheaper versions of Chrysler cars. Name was dropped in 1999.

1931 Plymouth PA Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Plymouth PE Sedan
Unusual photo from Martin Beeton (Canada) sayng his aunt had a car that looked somewhat similar to a '38 MG or Hillman (or Humber)... but it isn't. Been scratching his head and wondered if we could identify it for him? The front bumper looks bent? -- No, fashion!  Registration is London CC but the car is NOT British. Very unusual for UK, a cca 1934 Plymouth PE Sedan. Plymouth was the economy brand of Chrysler. The make is recognisable from the vertical louvres plus flaps on the bonnet.

1934 Plymouth PE Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Chrysler Airflow Sedan
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- Quite a revolutionary car also made in America. One of the first to utilise the principle of less air resistance to improve efficiency. Made between 1934-37 this is a cca 1934 Chrysler Airflow Sedan. While modern looking now, waterfall grille and curved form was not liked and the car became commercial disaster.

1934 Chrysler Airflow Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Ford Model C 10 Saloon
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the car is?  -- This car could have been made in Germany or Britain, or even Spain. However the bonnet louvres suggest probably British. This is a cca 1935 Ford Model C 10. An upgrade on the Model Y to 1172cc, 10HP, made in UK 1934-37. Followed by CX in 1935. In Germany it was the Ford Eifel after a local mountain.

1935 Ford Model C 10 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1941 Humber Super Snipe Open Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a French comedy film "La folle histoire de Max et Leon" made in 2016 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of a couple of lads who join up at beginning of WW2 and soon find they want out. Escapades include impersonating officers.  -- This is a British car and one that is associated with Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery, who seems to have had at least two of them in various theatres of WW2. Car is a cca 1941 Humber Super Snipe Open Tourer.

1941 Humber Super Snipe Open Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1948 Aero Minor Saloon
Puzzling photo received from Jan Håkan Dahlström (Sweden) saying 'Photo of me, taken by my father about 1950 in Sweden. Can you tell me what car this is?  -- Our Leif Holmberg spotted this very unusual car as coming from Czechoslovakia. Complicated engine configuration of radiator behind the two-stroke 615cc engine requiring large air vents at the ends of the wings. Front wheel drive. Designed by Jawa but by socialist decree manufactured by/as a cca 1948 Aero Minor II Saloon.

1948 Aero Minor Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1985 Rover 2600S Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a British comedy-drama film "The Lady in the Van" made in 2015 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Based on a true story of Margaret Fairchild who lived for 15 years in a Bedford van parked in playwright Alan Bennett's drive in Camden, London.  -- The car in the photo is a 1985 Rover 2600S Saloon. Interesting thing is that it belongs to one of our members Martin Emery who has a number of classic cars which have appeared in various films.

1985 Rover 2600S Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown 1930s Motorcycle
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old vehicles of Romania.  Do we know what themotorcycle is?  -- Regretfully no. Certain distinctive features including exhaust pipe, the position of the front brake rod/cable, hand gear change on tank, reverse handlebar levers, and apparent V style badge on the mudguard, etc, - however our motorcycle experts have not been able to identify it.

Unknown 1930s Motorcycle
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