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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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below relates to enquiries received during
2021 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1896
Bassett Voiturette
This has been an annoying one
because we know we have had this before and now we cannot find any
trace of it; but now we know the answer !! -- It
has remained in Ariejan Bos' system but lost in mine. Ariejan has now
determined it is a cca
1896 Bassett Voiturette, built by DW
Bassett, general manager of Humber, and 'lost' in Offley Bros of Whitby
loft, and refurbished later to new condition by them. Registered M 81.
Fitted with De Dion Bouton Engine. Not the Bassett Syndicate car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1902
Darracq Tonneau 'Special'
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand). De Dion Bouton? -- Our
Ariejan Bos advises
c1902
Darracq Tonneau 'Special'; poss 12 HP
"American Darracq" extensively modified. Photo Distortion
makes it look odd. Short backward bend of dumb-irons is a good Darracq
feature. Body is something American. The wheels have some sort of
detachable rims; the rad is enlarged and moved more forward, steering
wheel been replaced; mods likely in the early 1910s.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1905
Humberette Rebodied Special
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. Is it a re-bodied Humberette? -- Agreement
that it is a special Humberette. Original Humberette was introduced in
1903 with a water-cooled single of 613 cc 5.2 HP and with wheelbase
5'3'' for £125. 'Royal' came in 1904 at 733cc and three speed box add
doors at £150, and in 1905 a 7.5HP 1495cc. Stopped 1906. Air or Water Cooled
8HP car in wheelbase 7'5'' came 1913 to 1914 at £135.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905
Haynes Model K 35'40 Touring
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand). from a facebook asking identification. -- Our
Ariejan Bos advises this is a
cca 1905 Haynes
Touring. Haynes were made
in Kokomo Indiana USA by Elwood Haynes and the Apperson Brothers, who
made their first car in 1894. This looks a big car out of three for
1905 so would probably be a Model K 35'40 Roi des Belges Touring. By
1906 the Apperson name was dropped and all cars made were 4r
cylinder. Closed down in 1925.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1908
Sinpar Voiturette
Another puzzling photo received
from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from
a forum posting asking for identification. Photo
marked as Paris? – Immediate
thought Flanders but dumbirons wrong. I have this very photo labelled
1910 Brouhot, but unlikely. Our Ariejan Bos advises it is a cca
1908 Sinpar Voiturette (‘without
equal’) made in Paris. Dashboard radiator. Several cars were used as
a photographer's prop, like this one. Reg. ending Y9, is Paris c1908).
1912 made a badged Demeester 8HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
c1909 Armstrong Whitworth
Puzzling photo received from
Christopher Carnley (UK) asking
if we could identify car on the photo. He has asked the RREC and they
say not an early Rolls-Royce. --
A big puzzle
because we have same photo in our records from various sources as
possible c1909 Armstrong Whitworth Landaulette, perhaps the 18’22. Rounded
front axle, seems latching radiator cap, here matrix is full-width
curved corners, not usual. Reg:EC Westmorland, FC: Oxford.
Thames of Greenwch had similar pointed rad?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cc1914
Wolseley 20'30 Tourer
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA Forum by Mali asking if it
is possible to identify the car on the photo. -- No
history or location mentioned but is would seem to be in the tropics.
We feel this is the same car as depicted below from same sender. Seems
to have stoneguard on low rad, tall filler, four louvres, squared
off mudguards. We tend to agree with our Mark Dawber who suggests a
Wolseley
but we think likely cca 1914 as wide radiator but exposed
hinges, a 20'30 or 30'40, 'Colonial'?.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1914
Wolseley 20'30 Tourer
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA Forum by Mali asking if it
is possible to identify the car on the photo. -- Poor
damaged photo we have tried to make clearer. We feel this is the same
car as depicted above. Just pre-WW1 car but which had been
updated/modified in the meantime with bolt-on wheel disks. Other items
in same location. We tend to agree with our Mark Dawber who suggests a
Wolseley but we think likely cca 1914 as wide radiator but exposed
hinges, a 20’30 or 30’40HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916
AJS V Twin 748cc Model D
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. -- Our
Chas Moody advises this is a cca 1916 AJS 748cc Vee twin Model
D. Named
after Albert Jack Stevenson, was 698cc in 1912, grew to 748 in 1915,
then 1000cc in 1930s. Equipped with all-chain drive and a three speed
gearbox. In 1915 was given a dropped top tube frame and the attractive
tapered fuel tank. In 1916 factory changed to munitions for WW1. SEE below.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1916
AJS V Twin 748cc Model D
The
sidecar marketed by AJS was by
local firm C W Hayward which grew to be biggest maker in the world,
until small cars. This AJS combination had a hard life possibly used
for competition; flat handlebars replaced original swept back type, and
'Ace' type discs fitted to the front Wheel. This would prevent the
stirrup type brake shoes operating on the rim which were subsequently
removed/discarded, as they are conspicuous by their absence! At the
time, most cars had no front wheel brakes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1919
Minerva 20HP Limousine
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA Forum by Mali asking if it
is possible to identify the car on the photo. -- No
history or location mentioned but is would seem to be in the tropics.
This is a very high quality Belgian car made in Antwerp. One of the
First of the rounded rather that flat fronted radiator type, but still
with the smaller diameter wheelhubs. This would seem a to have been
made around WW1, and little difficult if pre or post. Probably post. so
likely a cca
1919 Minerva 20HP Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920
Opel 14'48 Torpedo
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand). from a facebook asking identification. --
This photo is headed 'Two cars in France',
but only one is French and neither have numberplates. No other
information given. The car on the left is German and helpfully has the
name on the header tank. It has a spitzkuhler rad, thin header, split 'veed'
windscreen and larger type separate sidelights. This is therefore a cca
1920 Opel 14'48 Torpedo with a non
standard headlamp tie bar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1923
Heros 247 Motorcycle
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. --
Lovely picture with part- logo helping identification. This is a cca
1923 Heros 247 Motorcycle
made by Hartman & Richter H&R
Motorenwerk Zittau, Germany near Czech border. Made bicycles and add-on
engines, then 1921-1929 own motorcycles 155, 185, 247cc, Side and
overhead, 2 and 4 stroke, 2 or 3 speed gearboxes. 166cc 4str engines
supplied to Ranzani, Milan, Italy.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923
Berliet 12 HP Torpedo
Another interesting photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand). from a facebook asking identification. --
This photo is headed 'Two cars in France',
but but only one is French, and neither have numberplates. No other
information given. The car on the right is French and helpfully has the
name on the radiator. It has a tallish
narrow radiator, largish headlamps with a circular headlamp tie-bar,
rest hidden, suggesting this is probably a cca
1923 Berliet 12 HP Torpedo, possibly
VH Le Mans.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Packard
443 7- Seat Phaeton
Another very interesting photograph sent
to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is a collector of old photos. This
photo is from a friend. Can we identify the car?
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identification pointers are immediately noticeable, being a wavy bonnet
and a hexagonal centre to the wheel hub. Both help to narrow it down to
a few makes, one of which is Packard of Detroit, Michigan, USA. Packard
automobiles were produced 1899 to 1956 This is cca
1926 Packard 443 7- Seat Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Pierce Arrow Series 80 Sedan
Cinema screen grab taken from an American short silent film comedy "
Hot Luck" made in 1928 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Story
is about a fireman father, son and dog visiting his firehouse where the
chief has just forbidden children and pets.
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unusual shape of the headlamps being built into the mudguards is the
prime pointer as to the make of the car. Made in Buffalo USA by company
which started out by making birdcages, this is a cca
1926 Pierce Arrow Series 80 Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929
Chevrolet Imperial Landau
Small photo received from Randy Koehn of Chilliwack BC
(Canada) doing family ancestry research.
His father is driving and photo was taken on the prairies
possibly at Purple Springs near Lethbridge Alberta in Canada. --
Our Mark Dawber thinks this is a 1929 Chevrolet Imperial. In 1928
Chevrolet made the National Imperial Landau 4, a convertible with rear
section of the roof folded down but this has central bunch of louvres
suggesting cca
1929 Chevrolet Int Landau Convertible Sedan 6.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1929
Stutz DV32 Roadster
Photo from our Aston Martin owner
Keith Piper (UK) who
was asked if this is his Aston Coupe, which it is not.
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Looks
American with British body? Two of our experts agree luxury car made by
Indianapolis based Stutz. Horisintal bonnet louvres so cca
1929 Stutz DV32 Roadster. The body
has the bulbous matt finish of a ‘Weymann’. Stutz made a myriad of
models/bodies including own Weyman so not necessarily coachbuilt.
Registration is London mid May 1929. Very unusual posh wheel disks.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934
Chevrolet Master DA Sedan
Another puzzling photo received from
Doug Cooper from Vancouver (Canada)
being a family photo stated as a 1940 Chevrolet, but he thinks the car
dates from the mid or early 1930s. -- Agreement
from our NZ expert Mark Dawber that is a cca
1934 Chevrolet Master Model DA Sedan.
Has the optional twin side mounted spares. Has some sort of home-made attachment
on the front bumper and has a radio aerial fitted, perhaps later. The
Master had new body in 1935, standard 1936.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1936
Ford Model Y 5cwt Van
Puzzling photo received from Neil Jones (UK)
taken on Botley Road (now the A27) with Luzborough Camp, near
Romsey, in the background. Ford Model Y? -- Yes,
nicely hand painted photo of a cca
1936 Ford Model Y 5cwt Van with a
wartime blackout headlamp, parked by a Strongs of Romsay Brewery sign.
Reg is Southampton CC late 1936. The 933cc Y range of saloons,
vans and pickups was made 1932-37. This has the new 'long rad' and 6
not 9 bonnet vents, confirming post 1933.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937
Adler Trumph 1.5 Rennlimousine
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
seems frequently to come up with unusual cars; what is this? --
No 35 is a 'privateer' although there
was a 'team' of similar bigger cars entered in the 1937 14th 24 Hours
of Le Mans, This is a Nazi German streamliner car with front
wheel drive made by a Jewish owned company and driven by a French
divorcee lady racing driver Mme Anne-Cécile Rose-Itier in the
first-ever fully-enclosed GT, 1937
Adler Trumph 1.5L Rennlimousine, but
failed to finish.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1937
Morris 10cwt Type Y Van
Puzzling photo received from Neil Jones (UK)
taken on Botley Road (now the A27) with Luzborough Camp, near
Romsey, in the background. No idea on car. --
Nicely hand painted photo of not a car but
a van. Relatively unusual vehicle built 1936-1939 by Morris Motors.
This is a cca
1937 Morris Series II 10 cwt Type Y Van,
which was based on the 12/4, having a 1547cc four engine, which was
offset nearside allowing for a forward control driver position and
thereby having offset rear axle.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939
Peugeot 202 Saloon
Another photo received from
Giorgio Tardi (Italy)
asking for help in identification. -- I
have a feeling he is trying us out because this could be the back of
the car he sent us earlier with the headlamps inside the waterfall
front grille? The back of the car is equally interesting showing the
full spats with a motif covering the rear wheels, no bootlid as acess
was from inside the car and the uncovered spare wheel which suggests
this was a 4-seater saloon, so small French c1939
Peugeot 202 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939
Peugeot 202 Saloon
Another photo received from
Giorgio Tardi (Italy)
asking for help in identification.
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was a period in the late 1930s when number of makers went a la mode and
copied this sloping waterfall radiator style. This is the French
version of the 'fad' and if you know where to look, it tells you quite
precisely in writing what it is. The crank handle hole is the zero of 2
above and 2 below it; 202. Above that in original longhand script, it
says Peugeot,
low wipers, so cca
1939 Peugeot 202 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1969
Rover 2000 P6 Saloon
Lovely photo received from
Giorgio Tardi (Italy) who
took it in Madeira and is asking for help in identification.
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seem to be a number of well-preserved classic automobiles on the Island
of Madeira, which is Portuguese but well out in the Atlantic way off
Morocco. This is a British car, a cca 1969 Rover 2000 P6
Saloon, post
first facelift. These were made in various forms (Series I, 3500,
Series II, 2200 and engine sizes (2.0/2.2/3.5L). 323,000 built 1963 - 1977. Also in S. Africa, N. Zealand
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