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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1902
Clement Rear Entrance Tonneau
Possibly a posed cinema screen grab
sent to us by Peter Blair (USA?)
asking if we can help identify this car. Nothing known about the photo except
it looks like France. -- Our
Ariejan Bos confirms this is a cca
1902 Clement Rear Entrance Tonneau.
The first Clement-Talbots were similar, but Clement Bayard in 1903
started with honeycomb rads. The photo looks like a cinema set; the
lighting (shadows) and the odd postures of the people, so perhaps wrong
colour French registration?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1903
Peugeot 240 Motorcycle
Another interesting photo from regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) showing le Patron
and Madamme in their Lyon workshop. -- Car
is cca 1907 Sizaire & Naudin 8'10HP Voiturette . Our motorcycle guru
Chas Moody advises from the Truffault forks that the motorcycle in the
centre is a
cca 1903 Peugeot 240. Peugeot
started making motorcycles in 1898 using De Dion-Bouton engines, but
soon started making Motobicyclette with own engines, 2
& 2.5HP, of similar looks.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Sizaire & Naudin 8'10HP
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) showing le Patron
and Madamme in their Lyon workshop. -- Car
is cca 1907 Sizaire & Naudin 8'10HP Voiturette manufactured in
Curbevoie in Paris. Recognisable from the independent
front suspension of sliding pillars and a transverse leaf spring, very
similar to the Decauville. Powered by a 8'10 HP single cylinder
engine. Sizaire Brothers left to form London company 1913/27; Sizaire-Berwick.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Perhaps
1907 Crawshay-Williams
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a NZ facebook page with no info. Poss photo 1908-10 when car was few
years old.-- Rounded
bonnet/rad with flat bottom. and distinct name plate. Not one I have in
my system so asked Ariejan Bos who hesitantly suggests perhaps
Crawshay-Williams
who made cars in Ashtead, Surrey, UK, between 1906 and 1908, - but no
guarantee! Had Simms engines 14'16 and 20'24, chain drive, so earlier?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Lion Peugeot VA Voiturette
Puzzling photo received from Par
Sorliden (Sweden) saying he is
unsure
about the car in this photograph. Perhaps a Cottereau? Maybe you can
help with a better identification. The photo comes from Stockholm
Stadsmuseum's digital archive. -- The
car is relatively unusual and not that easy to identify. Our Ariejan
Bos advises it is a cca
1907 Lion Peugeot VA Voiturette 8 CV
as made by 'Sons of Peugeot Brothers'. About a 1000 VA & VC cars
were made 1906 to 1908. Re-united in 1910.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Speedwell 25 HP Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1998
British film "Stiff Upper Lips" being investigated by IMCDB.
Film about aunt vainly tries to force Emily to marry boring Cedric by
taking them to Italy and India hoping she will forget handsome George.
-- Another
car with a round bonnet and round radiator which it had for one year in
its final year. This is a cca
1907 Speedwell 25 HP Tourer made in
Knightsbridge, London, having started importing Leon Bollee and
Renault. Ceased 1907, became Brown Bros.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 Enfield 18HP Tourer
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post requiring identification. Photo from UK. --
Seems to a have a round bonnet and a round radiator with a wide round
section at the top. Not quite possible to see the bottom of the rad.
Big car. Was looking at Humber, Maudslay and Pick as possibles but
Ariejan Boss has photo of a cca 1908 Enfield 18HP Tourer
which has a
round equidistant radiator. Price complete 1908 as £367 so not cheap.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908 Mors 30HP Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1970
Spanish film "Pierna creciente, falda menguant"
(Growing Leg, Diminishing Skirt)
being investigated by IMCDB. Spanish musical comedy film
directed by Javier Aguirre. --
Seems to have a registration number C 76 which was questioned as to
original? We have a faded old photo in our archives of car dated 1908
while in some sort of competition having the same registration, in what
could be Sendon, NW Spain. So the this is a cca
1908 Mors 30HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Sheffield Simplex 45HP
Another interesting photo found on facebook, this by Karen
Starr Venturini asking for identification.
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lovely looking car with very low round bonnet and radiator, like
the Delaunay-Bellville. but looked British. Confirmed by our Ariejan
Bos that this is a cca
1910 Sheffield Simplex 45HP Landaulette.
It was made in Sheffield as follow-on to Brotherhood-Crocker and
designed by man from Daimler. Made armoured cars for Russia in
WW1. Built Ner-a-car motorcycle to 1927.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1911 Clement Bayard AC6 Torpedo
Two photos from Craig Encer
(Turkey), General Secretary, Levantine
Heritage Foundation, a genealogical website (covering the former
Ottoman empire), asking if we can help to identify a car in two
photos in the section "Boudja Life" (nearby Izmir Turkey)?
-- Lovely
photos of a French car made in Mezieres in the Ardennes by one of
Adolphe Clement-Bayard many companies,
This is a cca
1911 Clement Bayard Torpedo,
from the older body/bonnet, probably the six cylinder AC6.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Belsize 14'16 Landaulette
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post by "Old Essex Kent and London"
captioned 'East End wedding'. Suggested Napier and Belsize ?-- Napier
did make Taxis during this period but this is not one. Registration
seems blanked out, but from radiator, wheels, dumbirons etc, and as
medium sided car, this is a cca 1911 Belsize Landaulette, probably the
14'16 four cyl, and from a round 'taxameter' beside the driver is
obviously a Taxi.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Spyker 12HP Landaulette
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1917
Dutch film "Het geheim van Delft" (The Secret of Delft)
being investigated by IMCDB.
Film is about the search for the lost recipe for shiny Delft pottery.
-- Round
bonnet and rad, early Dutch film, so Ariejan Bos says not surprising it
is a cca
1912 Spyker Landaulette, probably 12
or 16HP. Earlier Spykers had 14 spokes back and front and had radiator
side panels with pronounced high louvers. Seems about 1911 with 10/14
spokes & older style body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 Mors 12'15 Landaulette
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1917
Dutch film "Het geheim van Delft" (The Secret of Delft)
being investigated by IMCDB.
Film is about the search for the lost recipe for shiny Delft pottery.
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this scenegrab the unidentified car was chasing the Spyker and crashes
into it. The bonnet has the distinct central bulge of a Mors and also
seems to have a curved scuttle which comes to a vertical end, and has a
pramiron on rear roof, which suggests this is a cca
1912 Mors 12'15 Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Argyll 15HP Landaulette
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1917
Dutch film "Het geheim van Delft" (The Secret of Delft)
being investigated by IMCDB.
Film is about the search for the lost recipe for shiny Delft pottery.
-- Dutch
film, so quite surprising to find a Scottish car featured in it.
Obviously a pre WW1 car, This is a cca 1913 Argyll 15HP
Landaulette. Began
as Hozier in 1899 in Glasgow, by 1905 renamed Argyll Motors became
biggest car maker in Scotland. Moved, went broke 1907, reformed went on
to 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1917 Clyno 744 Twin Motorcycle
From
Alun Pugh, Leeds, (UK)
where we advised on HP 148 centre bike was cca
1927 Triumph Model W Motorcycle, but not sure on the others. --
Subsequently received email from Leon Mitchell of Adelaide, South
Australia, that the bike on the left is probably WW1 cca
1917 Clyno 744 Twin of the type
usually seen with a Vickers machine gun on the sidecar with ammunition,
and cooling water and spares for the gun. Two other companion bikes
would carry extra ammo and act as a spare carrier.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Turcat Mery 15'25 Tourers
Another interesting photo from regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post requiring identification. Turcat-Mery or
Lorraine-Dietrich. --
Took a bit of investigation but this sees a photo taken at the 1921
Corsica Grand Prix which was a 148km three sided course to be covered
three times making 442 km total. Photo shows the Turcat-Mery
GP Team. Turcat-Mery from Marseilles
had won the inaugural Monte Carlo Rally in 1909. Ceased car
manufacture in 1928.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923 Royal Enfield 350 SV Motorcycle
From
Alun Pugh, Leeds, (UK)
where we advised on HP 148 centre bike was cca
1927 Triumph Model W Motorcycle, but not sure on the others. Middle is UA 161 and the right one has
a reg plate WT 3618. --
UA 161 is Leeds CBC registration late 1927 and WT 3618 is West Riding of Yorkshire County Council
registration
late c1923. Subsequently received email from Leon Mitchell of Adelaide,
South Australia, that The bike on the right is less clear, but probably
a 1923
Royal Enfield 350 side valve.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
Citroen Model C 5HP Torpedo
Another interesting photo on facebook from Jules Queva identified as a
1922 Citroen Type A 10HP.
-- Our
Michel Gosset is owner of a car very similar to the one on the photo,
advised this is not a 1922 Citroen Model A but is a cca 1923 Citroen
Model C 5HP Torpedo. The colour being dark is red or havanne, not
yellow, so is late 1923. This one is Torpedo C2 because the spare wheel
is mounted showing the inside of the wheel. This also seems to be fitted
with later wired tyres, not the beaded edge.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
c1923 Gnome & Rhone 500cc
Another puzzling photo from
Georges Truffaut (Belgium)
trying to identify this motorcycle combination. Photo taken in
France. --
Our Michel Gosset says not French
numberplate. Single cylinder four stroke, no front brake
which is unusual. Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody delved deep into lots
of books and
suggests possibly a cca
1923 Gnome & Rhone 500cc. French
company famous for rotary aircraft engines in the First War. SNECMA
1945. Made motorcycles from 1919 until 1959.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1932 Triumph Model X Motorcycle
Another very puzzling photo sent to us by
Ravindra Naruka (India)
"You helped in the past. This time found frame with some
engine parts, rest missing; which we advised on HP126 as 'unknown possibly continental'?
-- Difficult
photo. Subsequently received email
from Leon Mitchell of Adelaide, South Australia, that the bike is not
"continental", but very British. One of the Triumph
two strokes, probably the 174cc Model X from
1930s but fitted with a rear carrier from small 1920s BSA .
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
Austin 12'4 LL Landaulette Taxi
Partially hand coloured photo received
from Poppy Rowe (UK) asking
for help to identify this car taken around 1950. She believed it to be
a 1930s London taxicab, possibly a 1937 Austin LL, however no longer
sure. -- Not
so far off. Registration is London County Council of October 1935, and
it is indeed a cca
1935 Austin 12'4 'Low Loader' Vincent Landaulette Taxi,
which has been subsequently 'privatised' with the addition of the front
passenger door, and a home modified windscreen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
c1936 Hotchkiss Sports
Couple very puzzling but interesting photos found on a facebook
page requesting identification, found while researching other items.
URL since lost. -- The
numberplate looks Romanian and 'B' would be the capital, Bucharest. The
body seems a very nice coachworked competition model probably locally
built for the Monte Carlo Rally. The radiator and the badge on back
suggest this is a French car, a cca
1936 Hotckhiss Sports, possibly 686.
Hotckiss won the MonteCarlo six times.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1939
Latil M7 T1 4x4 Light Tractor
Another interesting photo sent to
us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this trophy (?)
vehicle taken by German photographer in WW2 in Wehrmacht service.
German driver/officer (L), South American military attaches. -- We
tought Stoewer but advised by Georges Truffaut that it is a cca
1939 Latil M7 T1 4x4 Light Tractor. 70
were made in France for towing 2.5cm AT gun. Not known if more
made for the Wehrmacht after capitulation.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1954
Trojan Mini-Motor Bicycle
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1954
British comedy film "To Dorothy a Son" being investigated by
IMCDB. In order to receive a large inheritance, an American woman
travels to Britain to prevent her ex-husband having any more children. --
Registration number PRO 529 is Herford CC 1954. The machine is a
standard bicycle which has a power assisted engine above the rear wheel
rather than in the wheel so is a
cca 1954 Trojan Mini-Motor Powered Bicycle.
Car is 1952 Hillman Minx.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNKNOWN
c1905 Cyclecar
Another puzzling photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from facebook page
asking for info. -- Nobody
seems to have been able to crack this one. LC is London CC 1905. The
bonnet looks very crude and home made, out of keeping with rest of car
which seems very professional. Suggested as a possible Phoenix, but our
thoughts from side mounted rather than tower rad that this could be
a prototype or update of a Riley or Singer type Quadricycle. Any
HELP appreciated!
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