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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 49 below relates to enquiries received
during
2012 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Daimler 35HP Landaulette
Fabulous photo that has it all, received from
John Bedford, Cabridge (UK) saying
he purchased six Victorian albums at auction and is trying to research
names and locations of photos. This is only one with a car.
-- P 3542 registration is
Surrey CC but early records have been lost. The make is a Daimler
and the car is a big beastie of larger hosepower. Car and
coachwork look cca 1906, which ties with the reg, and the engine is
probably the 35HP 4 cylinder. Rear opening bodywork is a
Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907
Singer Two-Seater
Interesting photo received from Shirley
Playford (UK) marked:
" Early Motor Car. Mr & Mrs Frank Rogers" of Mayfield.
Mayfield Historical Society are keen to
identify the make/model/age of the car. --
Quite an unusual car and not many photos of this
model. No discernable registration, so no aid to
specific dating but the round central part to a square radiator was the
feature of a cca 1907 Singer Two-Seater, possibly the smaller 8'12
Model with the two cyl. White & Poppe Engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1909 Humber 8
Photo received in 2006 from Colin Green (UK) who
is a fan of the 1968 film Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and wanted
to know what type of car it is that 'Truly Scrumptious'
drives in the
film.
-- We advised it was a
cca 1909
Humber 8 and that reg CUB1 was
incorrect for car. Had feedback from Philip Barrett USA saying the plate
belonged to Albert "Cubby" Broccoli's, the film's producer and
that reg was normally on his Rolls Royce. Phillip says he thought
it would be amusing to slip it into movie.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
De Dion Bouton Tourer
Confusing cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in a British film "Nicholas & Alexandra" made in
1971, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Based on the
last days of Tsar Nichloas II and includes a scene of this car during
the assassination of Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo. --
He was most certainly not assassinated in a French cca
1911 De Dion Bouton, which this is, but
in an Austrian 1911 Graf & Stift Phaeton, - but
presumably filmakers think only car buffs would notice.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Maudslay Sweet Seventeen
Superb photo received from Bill Shiels of
Calgary, Alberta (Canada) on
which was 'Uncle's Car', and uncle could be distant relative who was
well connected in Belfast. The chauffeur may be driving the car.
-- BR 254 is registration issued
by County Borough of Sunderland which is on the north east coast of
England and not Ireland? Reg is also cca 1904/5 whereas the car is a
cca 1912 Maudslay Sweet Seventeen Tourer. AA badge has
wings, so post 1911. So carries retained 'cherished' number.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1916
Ford Model T Touring
Formal photo received from Margaret
Rackham (Australia) researching
the Dransfield
Family (original photos found in
Romania!) and is currently scanning family photos in Australia dated
1923/26.
-- Quite clearly an American car
but with hand drive. Transverse spring so a Ford Mode T. Rounded bonnet
and electric lights, so post 1915. Our friends at the AACA recon it is
a Canadian chassis with an Australian made body, and windscreen, and
so a cca
1922/3 Ford Model T Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Chevrolet 490 Touring
Damaged photo, which we have repaired, received from
David Robinson (UK) showing
his Gt Grandfather as front passenger. Possibly Skegness.
-- When much magnified, the
registration seems to be CL379# which would be a 1920 Norwich County
Borough Council registration. Car is American. There is no headlamp
tie bar so this is a cca
1920 Chevrolet 490 Four Touring, which
ties in with the registration. Difficult to identify
pier, but to us looks more like
Great Yarmouth ?
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Sunbeam 16HP Tourer
'After accident' photo from Margaret
Rackham (Australia) researching
the Dransfield
Family (original photos found in
Romania!) and is currently scanning family photos in Australia dated
1923/26.
-- Nice to see a British car
which was confirmed by our Sunbeam expert Bruce Dowel as being a cca
1922 Sunbeam 16hp Tourer, dated by
having rounded wings with sidelights on top. He has records of seven
similar period models in Oz. Pictured with the 1916 Model T
mentioned above.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Arrol Johnson 15.9 Tourer
Nice photo received from our Singer expert
Simon Bishop (UK)
who got it from somebody
in the Sunbeam Register having purchased the photo thinking it was a
Sunbeam which it is not. Not a Singer either. Clyno, but did Clyno made
a car that size? --
No, not a Clyno but a car made north of the
English border in Scotland. This is a cca 1923 Arrol Johnson 15.9 HP
'All Weather' made in Heathhall, Dumfries. One of the first British car
manufacturers as Mo-Car Syndicate, closed as Arrol-Aster in 1931.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Buick with UK Body
Fuzzy photo from Julian Stinton,
Bristol (UK)
he found on a website while investigating
wife's ancestors, licensees of the Sportsman pub in Sholden,
near Deal in Kent from 1910 - 1912. Suggested the car is a Maxwell,
made in Kew. -- No
trace of a UK Maxwell. Is not an American Maxwell either. Quite
unusual. Seems the chassis was a cca
1923 Buick but with a British fixed-head body
with veed windscreen, and lighting set. Reg is London
1923. Similar bodied Buicks elsewhere, - no maker.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Lincoln & 1925 Vauxhall
Lineup of cars photo received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Was Convalescent Home in WW1. Gardens became overgrown and house eventually
sold off for flats. --
Our John Warburton confirmed the car on
the left as a big American cca
1926 Lincoln
Model L V8, and car on the right is big cca
1925 Vauxhall 23'60 with veescreen
coachbuilt body.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Riley & 1927 Clyno
Lineup of cars photo received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Was Convalescent Home in WW1. Gardens became overgrown and house eventually
sold off for flats. --
Both are British cars. The car on
the left, reg UC, is a London registered 1928
Riley Monaco Saloon, and the car on the right,
YH, is also London registered and is 1927
Clyno Royal Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Renault Vivasix Saloon
Lovely photo received from David Erasmus
from Nottingham (UK)
saying his wife's great great grandfather
was born in India around 1805 and was a Professed Chef in London in
mid-1800's. May be him and/or family.
-- Coalscuttle
bonnet with rectangular badge so after 1925, no louvers on front so
before 1930. The louvers are quite far back on the side of bonnet,
plain at front, all suggesting one of the bigger Renaults,
and specifically the Vivasix which was made cca 1928. UK side lights.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Renault/Reynolds Coach
Photo received from Bill Stothard (UK)
of the Cudworth History Group saying
photo from Great Grandson of Robert Taylor. Phonenumber on back was
traced to Yorkshire Traction. --
Web info is that R Taylor & Sons and
H Wray & Sons operated under the name of Ideal Service, and were
eventually taken over by the Yorkshire Traction. Photo says Made by
Reynolds Bros, ex Barnsley cycle makers in 1901, who made various
busses for Taylor & Sons. Chassis is French
cca
1929 Renault light lorry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930
Gilford Coach
Photo received from Bill Stothard (UK)
of the Cudworth History Group where
original photo has hand-written the word GUILDFORD. R
Taylor & Son 'Ideal' did have a Gilford circa 1934, YG 7518. Is
this it? -- Correct
spelling is indeed Gilford,
reg is late '34 West Yorkshire, and Gilford went into receivership in
'35. In '34 current chassis would have probably been a 'Hara' 176, but
size and fashion of this photo looks like an earlier forward control
166 or 168. See earlier Gilford on Brighton
Run 2002.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932
Stoewer V5 Cabriolet Limousine
Another photo received from Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of 1920s/30s photos he has uploaded on the internet recently.
Car carries a city of Berlin registration. Looks like a DKW F1, but not
quite! --
Is cca
1932 Stoewer V5 Cabriolet Limousine,
German, made in Stettin (Szczecin, now
Poland) by company started in 1899 as Gebruder Stoewer. Made good cars,
eventually made Wehrmacht jeeps in WW2, so factory dismantled
by Russian army and all taken to USSR.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932
Lincoln KB Limousine
Series of photographs received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Was Convalescent Home in WW1. Gardens became overgrown and house eventually
sold off for flats. --
A rather grand and expensive Ford, this is a cca
1932 Lincoln KB Limousine powered by a
7 litre V12 engine. The body is similar to a Judkins
but seems to have the Dietrich paint job.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1934
Vauxhall VX Cadet Roadster
Another puzzling photo received from Lynne Evans
(Australia)
who is digitally storing her old family photos of the 40's, and
wants very much to label the photos correctly for the next generation. --
This is a General Motors car built in
Britain by Vauxhall Motors who were founded in 1857 and making cars
since 1903. Became GM in 1925. This is a cca
1934 Vauxhall Cadet VX Roadster.
Unusual body with fine lovers and airflow sidelights. Similar cars were
bodied by GM's '31 sub Holden in Australia.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936
Buick Sedan
Damaged photo received from Sandra Stephens
(USA)
who is helping a lady in England to find
the whereabouts of one of her relatives. The photo was taken in the
USA, perhaps in Ohio. It would help to know the year of the car.--
Split rear window. Our
New Zealand contributor Mark Dawber has identified this as a cca 1936
Buick Sedan although he cannot be sure of the series because the people are
obscuring details, but likely to be a Special. It looks to have straps
added over the boot.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937
Terraplane Series 71
Another blurry photo received from Lynne Evans
(Australia)
who is digitally storing her old family photos of the 40's, and
wants very much to label the photos correctly for the next generation.
This one was marked in bad handwriting as a '1937 Terraplank'--
Not very far off. This is an American
Hudson made 1937 Terraplane Series
71. Cannot see any of the body
style. Hudson made the 'Essex' as a cheaper line from 1919, and
repeated the process with the Terraplane in 1932 to '38.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937
Lancia Ardennes Cabriolet
Another photo received from Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of 1920s/30s photos he has uploaded on the internet recently.
Car carries French registration and is a Lancia, possibly Aprilia.
--
We thought it was an Astura, (bodywork above radiator, foglights) but
Paolo Giusti of Lancia Forum later advised it was a French (Bonneuil-sur-Marne)
built cca
1937 Lancia Ardennes Cabriolet Mylord
by French coachbuilder Portout. France built the
Ardennes and Belna.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1945 Riley RM Saloon
Another photo received from Lynne Evans
(Australia)
who is digitally storing her old family photos of the 40's, and
wants very much to label the photos correctly for the next generation. --
Arty photographer who is no help in
deciphering the makes of cars. Radiator
is obviously a
Riley but so little of the cars is
visible it is difficult to tell model. Our Chris Cuss advisees it is
one of the post-war RM series. RMA, RMB, RMC, RMD, RME, and RMF,
started 1945 and through the BMC years to around 1955.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1946
Standard Flying 8 Tourer
Blurry photos received from Lynne Evans (Australia)
who is digitally storing her old family photos of the 40's, and
wants very much to label the photos correctly for the next generation. --
This is a British car
made by the Standard Motor Company of
Coventry and is a cca
1946 Standard Flying Eight Tourer.
Standard eventually assembled cars in Australia but not until the mid
1950s. The term 'flying' came from position of British flag appearing
to fly backwards in the top of the rad.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Possibly
a 1919 Dennis Charabanc
Rather poor photograph received from
Barrie Raynor (UK)
who requested identification of the charabanc photographed in
Cardingmill Valley in the Shropshire hills. They think it was taken in
the 1920s judging by the dress of the woman in the foreground. --
Regretfully the photograph is of such bad
quality that it is impossible to make an accurate identification. We
need reasonable quality scans as it is the detail that
provides the identification. Our guess is a cca
1919 Dennis.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unknown 1927 Special
Lineup of cars photo received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Operations Director of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Was Convalescent Home in WW1. --
1927 London registered. As the photo is poor quality, this
car will likely remain a puzzle. Possibly a
special of some sort. The car is small
and low, even compared with the Clyno. Bentlyish rad. The Adamson
cyclecar looked similar, but was gone 1925.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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