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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed
cars are in year order:
Page 45 below relates to enquiries received
during
2012 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1901 Sunbeam Mabley Motor Sociable
Photo of a very unusual car received from
Brendan Flynn (UK) researching life
of Wolverhampton artist Edwin Butler Bayliss whose family owned Bayliss
Jones & Bayliss - nut and bolt makers. Very few pictures of the
artist but the most striking shows him seated in a motor car at family
home in Tettenhall, Wolverhampton. --
This is a cca 1901 Sunbeam Mabley Motor
Sociable. Car was developed by
John Marston who offered it to Sunbeam to avoid development costs. De
Dion engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1903
Peugeot 8 HP Tonneau
Two photos received from Bruce
Graham (UK)
of paternal Grandfather in S59 which could be the 59th car in Scotland.
-- Not in
Scotland but 59th in Edinburgh. This is a cca
1903 Peugeot 8HP Rear Entrance Tonneau and probably
issued to a car already in use pre reg. Note the front puncture repair
and note wire thing dangling off rear mudguard; John Warburton advises
this is an accessory designed to flick any nails out of the tyre
before they got round to be pressed into the tyre case !
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Argyll 14'16 Tourer
Lovely family group photo received
from Alan Forsyth, Edinburgh, (UK) of
Great Grandfather and family in their Argyll, taken in 1912 in Galston,
Ayrshire. Can we identify the model and year of this car, and bodywork. --
C 493 is is West Riding of Yorkshire, but no dating available. North
Riding had 400s at 1906/7. Specialists John Warburton and Stephen McCann
agree this is a cca
1906 Argyll 14/16 Tourer. Earlier
carriage name for bodywork would have been double
phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Possibly
1906 Benz Landaulette
Interesting hand coloured postcard received
from Tom Cosens (UK) asking
if we can identify the car, possibly German. Postcards are German but he
has no other background. --Very
German scene, doubt British lady would handle dead hare! Not a positive
identification despite two knowledgeable specialists giving same maker,
a cca
1906 Benz Landaulette, because of the
upper bonnet louvers,
but I worry about heart shaped rad, - which they say could be
reflection of lamps??
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
Humber 10'12 Two-Seater
Lovely photo of a couple of cars parked in
front of a magnificent villa in India received from our regular
contributor John Warburton (UK).
The car on the right looks like a Humber of '09. --
Smaller wheelhub and half door, so
after 1906. Mudguards simply bent with no flat tops, so not after 1908/9
latest. Multiple louvers, so 1907/9. Secondary transverse spring at the
back? Yes, confirmed by John Tarring of Brooklands as a
cca
1908 Humber 10'12 Two-Seater made in
Coventry, - as he has one !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Selden Model 29 Roadster
Smashing photo received from William
Willey, Savannah, (USA)
saying "Attached is a photo of car with stylish lady and dog. The
hood ornament is a Billiken, an American charm doll. --
Doll was patented in St Louis in 1908 by
Florence Pretz. The car was made in Rochester NY by the Selden Motor
Vehicle Co and is a cca
1909 Selden Model 29 Roadster. George
Selden had the patent for the 'motor car' requiring royalties from all
others. Ford took him on and first lost, & won in 1911.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912 Straker Squire 15HP Two-Seater
Intriguing photo received
from Andrew Roxburgh (New Zealand) who
had visited our site trying to identify a couple of cars owned by
his grandfather who lived in North London. He found one but the other
one evades him. --
Rather interesting car made by a man who started in steam commercials in
1893. Imported petrol cars from Continent and made own Scamrock in 1907.
This is a cca 1912 Straker Squire 15HP Two-Seater. Made aero engines in
Bristol WW1, and stopped cars in '26.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Wolsley 12'16 Tourer
Another photo received
from Andrew Roxburgh (New Zealand) who
had visited our site trying to identify a cars owned by
his grandfather who lived in London. This he thought was a 1913 Wolseley
open tourer. --
It is indeed a Wolseley,
but a cca 1912 12'16 Tourer as the registration H9378 is mid
1912 issue by the Middlesex CC. The next series, MX,
commenced in July 1912. Interesting to note that the car carries
both the RAC and the AA badges, the AA having the
wings, so is post 1911.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
EMF Model 30 Touring
Lovely family group photo received from
Richard Seymann, Virginia, (USA)
saying "Some of us believe it is a 1912 Reo, but I believe
steering wheel was on left side; perhaps 1911? Or maybe it's an
Oldsmobile?" -- Radiator
is wrong and number of wheelnuts is wrong. I don't think it is either,
but an EMF/Studebaker on the changeover. Our friends at the AACA
confirm that it is indeed a cca
1912 EMF Model 30 Fore-Door Touring.
Very soon after, Studebaker took over and
name EMF went.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Rover 12 Tourer
Another intriguing photo received
from Andrew Roxburgh (New Zealand) who
had visited our site trying to identify a cars owned by
his grandfather who lived in London. This is another. --
The radiator top is a give-away but the lights confuse, as does the
registration. We cannot fully make out the reg but many of the M# were
from Middlesex, but of a date much later. Rounded mudguards so the
car is a cca
1913 Rover 12 Tourer. Photo taken later
as headlights and sidelights late twenties.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Belsize Torpedo 5 Seater
Lovely period photo received from Mike
Arlett (UK)
received 27 years ago from a Dr Smith, then living in Midford,
just to the south of Bath. The photograph will be in Mike's book on
history of railways in the village. Photo dates from (circa)1913 and is
said to feature the Harbutt family. Harbutt was the inventor of
Plasticine and lived at Bathampton. The Fox Inn closed before WW2.-- Car
carries mid 1913 Somerset CC registration and is a 1913
Belsize Torpedo, probably the
14'16 5 Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Rover 12 Tourer
Lovely photo of a couple of cars parked in
front of a magnificent villa in India received from our regular
contributor John Warburton (UK).
The car on the right looks like a Rover 12 of 1915.
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Concerns on the Rover are about the bulky windscreen and not being able
to see the profile of the bulkhead, obscured by the oil sidelight.
Bonnet handle and catch very much Rover as is general position of lamps.
Mudguards bulkier with overhang, so poss earlier making it a cca
1913 Rover 12HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca1914
Unknown Tourer
Lovely postcard village scene received
from Sue Harvey (UK) of her grandparents' thatched cottage with
some of their children playing on the green. Could we date the car to
date the kids. Photo perhaps 1914/5 or 1918/9. --
Much too small to read the numberpate or name the car. Bullnose rad so
build year pre WW1 say 1913-15. Photo after that. Not Morris, MG, Star,
AC or Lagonda. Possibly Alldays & Onions or Enfield Nimble 9.
If French, possibly Alba, Le
Zebre, Motobloc, or Unic.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
Sunbeam 16HP Ambulance
Photo of an Ambulance marked 'at
Greeewich' received from Jon Bailey (New
Zealand) which
was found in a relative's family album. Can we tell him the Make and
model? --
This is a cca
1915 Sunbeam 16HP Ambulance which was
actually made by the Rover Car Company. After outbreak of W War 1 the
UK Ministry of Munitions ordered Sunbeam, who had been making aero
engines, to concentrate solely on war work involving aircraft, and
so a licence was given to Rover to produce them.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920 Angus Sanderson 14 HP
In the process of looking for a photo,
visited site Edinphoto
run by Peter Stubbs (UK) where
they have thousands of photos relating to Edinburgh life in all its
aspects, where I came across a photo of a car they were trying to
identify. --
Very pretty radiator indicates a cca 1920 Angus Sanderson 14HP Closed
Tourer. Registration WS 514 is a Leith Borough Council issue and ended
with 520 in November, becoming Burgh of Edinburgh. This range of
cars was made in Hendon, Middlesex.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Vauxhall Type D Tourer
Fuzzy small photofrom Roy Edgar (UK) who
heard of us via the 'Who Do You Think You Are' Genealogy Exhibition at
London Olympia. --
Rescan and additional photos now make identification relatively simple.
Ally bonnet, five louvers, and reg BU 1241 say this is an Oldham CBC
registered 1920
Vauxhall Type D Tourer; Vauxhalls
mainstay during and immediately after WW1 being frequent army staff car.
Derived from the famous Prince Henry, followed by E. Wheel
trims are after-market.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1924 Delaunay Belleville Landaulette
Puzzling photo received
from Mario Lacroix, Quebec (Canada)
taken in Quebec 1927. Can't read
name on the radiator; is it a Bentall? --
Same photo elsewhere on the web saying taken by Lake Geneva,
Switzerland? Not a Bentall.
None of the usual suspects with round rads because
rad is pointed & two word name. Long overhang to front mudguards.
Number of Experts including John Warburton agree this is a cca
1924 Delaunay Belleville Landaulette
updated later with spots,bumper and disc wheels.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1926 Bugatti Special
Puzzling photo received from James
Osbourne (UK)
found in his Grandmothers estate featuring his Grandfather in
the early 1930's. Mention in document of a 'YR7580 in Suffolk.' --YR
is London CC, and car is a
Bugatti. Specialist John Stavely says
bonnet, scuttle and tail all non-standard; bonnet slopes up and scuttle
same line. Filler too far back, and rear two vents missing. 37 or 35A special!
Bugatti OC Ian Patton also says T37. No
trace YR 7580, but 8 Bugs known with YR reg.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Nash Sedan
Photo received from Luigi Perini (USA)
saying "find a partial photo of an automobile. The resolution is
not great. The photo was taken in Hagerstown Maryland. Can you identify
the year and make? The year is more important." --
Always very difficult to identify cars
from the rear but this is even more difficult because the photo is very
small, pixly and blurred. Distinguishing marks are two body lines across
the back and six wheel nuts on spare. Our Mark Dawber thinks this is a cca
1925/6 Nash.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Triumph Super Seven Tourer
Another photo of a
relatively unusual car received from Jonathan Day (
USA ) which
he is trying to identify. No background info received on the car or
photo. --
Not an easy one to identify. We thought it was a cca 1929
Swift 10HP but our John Warburton, whose dad would not let him have one
in the 1950s when he desperately wanted one, is more than positive that
it is a cca
1929'1930 Triumph Super Seven
a two-door four seat open tourer. Low lights & no light bar so one
of the earlier models.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929 Windsor White Prince
Photo received from Joao Ferreira
(Portugal)
showing two local famous actresses in a pageant at the circuit of Campo
Grande in Lisbon. -- Not
an easy one but spotted by our John Warburton and Mark Dawber as a cca
1929 Windsor White Prince Roadster.
The Windsor was made in St Louis, Missouri, USA, by the Moon Company wo
started in 1905. Also made the Dianna car and in 1929 changed the name
to Windsor using the UK's Prince of Wales in their ads. Also Ruxton,
but all gone by 1930.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1934 Renault Vivastella Saloon
Blurry photo of a relatively unusual car received from
Jonathan Day ( USA ) which
he is trying to identify. Car is from a photograph taken in France and
possibly post-war. The car is very interesting in itself, but is also
crucial to the understanding of other photos. --
This is indeed a French car, influenced by the Traction.
Relatively sure that this is a cca
1934 Renault Vivastella; a low
waistline, lights a la Traction, multiple horizontal bonnet louvres,
correct doors, running boards, wheels ... etc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1946 Oldsmobile Ace 66 Sedan
Photo received from Georgia (Canada)
who is trying to identify an old
car in a family photo. The subject is her mother and the family car,
which she think was taken some time in the 1940s. Dating the car will
help her figure out the age of her mother in the photo.
--Wing
bulge extending through the door; stripe has a small oval badge on the
wing; wheelhub badge. A General Motors vehicle post WW2. Confirmed by
our friends at AACA that the car is a cca
1946 Oldsmobile, an Ace 66 Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Mystery
Axle in Australia
In response to the unidentified Trailer
photo below, we
received photos from Craig
Gillingham
(Australia)
of similar remains behind a museum in Australia, suggesting perhaps a
Renault or Unic. He later followed up his email with another saying he
did more research and believes both could be from a British Armstrong
Siddeley. --
The solid
double section wheel certainly looks the part. Our Siddeley expert
Simon Pearce pondered and agrees both could indeed be
mid 1920s Armstrong Siddeley 14
HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unknown
Axle on Trailer
Couple of photos received from Nigel Rose
(Australia) saying
please find attached pics of a chassis found on a farm in
Australia. Am trying to find out info about it. Any idea of what it may
be would be great. Thanks. --
We regret this enquiry is a little bit
too specialised for us. Our knowledge base relates mainly to the
general overall veteran and vintage car scene, but regretfully not
commercials and not always in detail. Now believed remains
of a mid
1920s Armstrong Siddeley 14.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
 YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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