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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,000 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Perhaps 1902 Lux 5HP Voiturette
On our Help Page 98 we are showing an UNIDENTIFIED turn-of-century two seater with very pointed front received from Ken Brown, Hampshire (UK) 'always a pleasure looking through the Help Pages.' -- We have been contacted by Fedor from Romania advising that this is a cca 1902 Lux 5ps Voiturette. We know of Lux as a manufacturer in Germany of electric and petrol cars but not of this type of model. We have requested further background from Fedor,  but no replies as yet.

Perhaps 1902 Lux 5HP Voiturette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904 Darracq 8HP Roadster
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was intrigued by this photo taken circa 1905 near where Auckland Airport is now. Taken while building a bridge over a creek. Is the car a Darracq?   -- Radiator is similar to a Panhard Levassor so double checked with our very-oldies expert Ariejan Bos who confirmed this is a French Car made in Suresnes Paris, cca 1904 Darracq 8HP Roadster. Not enough of rear-entrance tonneau behind it to be seen, to be able to make an identification.

1904 Darracq 8HP Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Ford Model R Runabout
Another puzzling photo received from Tom Cosens from Yorkshire (UK) of an old car he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of postcard curiosities on which he has no other background, but which are needing ID.  -- Seems to have no dumbirons so transverse front spring; so immediately think of one of Henry's earlier creations. And indeed yes, running boards connect to mudguards so this is a cca 1907 Ford Model R Runabout. Front engined four cylinder 15HP 2.4 litre, 2500 built to1909.

1907 Ford Model R Runabout

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 International Harvester
Another interesting photograph well worth sharing on our Help Pages as a vehicle identification aid to auto historians, found while surfing the web researching unknown machinery. Can we name make? -- We think the photo originates from New Zealand and shows a 'high wheeler' crossing some quite impressive mountains.  The vehicle was made in America by company who were making automated crop reapers in 1831. Rounded bonnet suggests a cca 1908'9  International  Harvester.

1909 International Harvester High-Wheeler

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Zenith Gradua Sidecar Outfit
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was intrigued by this photo and suggested the motorcycle is a Zenith Gradua.  -- New one to me. Digging found this is a British make from London, Finsbury. Famous for racing and for the Gradua having a revolutionary variable drive ratio transmission via adjustable pulley operated by a coffe-grinder handle on the tank which got them banned from competitions, so put 'banned' on the badge: cca 1912 Zenith Gradua 770 Twin & Chair.

1912 Zenith Gradua Sidecar Outfit

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Lacre Type O Flatbed Lorry
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please identify this gas powered Wagon with DK plate....Rochdale 335. -- Indeed Rochdale CBC registration early 1913, and we have had this vehicle before (see HP 119). The lorry on the left of the main photo is a cca 1913 Lacre Type O Flatbed Lorry, made in Long Acre, Covent Garden, London; this is powered by coal gas in big bag on roof due to petrol shortages in WW1.

1913 Lacre Type O Flatbed Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Overland Delivery Van
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please identify this gas powered Wagon; AK plate Bradford 4286?" -- Indeed Bradford CBC registration, but no accurate dating available. The van on main photo right was made in America. The shape of the radiator changed to this type in c1914 and lost the bottom corners in c1916.  So this would be a cca 1915 Overland Delivery Van possibly bodied in the UK and running on coal gas in WW1.

1915 Overland Delivery Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1924 Fageol Safety Coach
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) has noted that we have had quite a few UK busses on our Help Pages recently and thought that the unique recognition feature on this bus in New Zealand would be worth noting.  -- There is a row of scoop type vents in the centre top of bonnet, American manufacturer from California, founded 1916 building cars, then tractors, then safety coaches, number operated by South Australian Railways, including as railcars; cca1924 Fageol Safety Coach.

c1924 Fageol Safety Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Tilling Stevens B9 Single Decker
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly identify and give any more information about this bus...WU 8509 plate?" -- WU 8509 is a West Riding of Yorkshire issue from 1926. A lovely wintery snow scene which hides the bus well! However, from what we can make out this is a cca 1926 Tilling Stevens B9 Single Deck Bus, which would have been made in Maidstone Kent by company that specialised in petrol-electric buses.

1926 Tilling Stevens B9 Single Decker

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Leyland Lion PLSC1 Bus
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly identify and give any more information about this bus...CK 35767(?)  plate?" -- Plate is very fuzzy but CK 3576 would have been a Preston County Borough Council issue cca 1926. Despite unclear photo we we are relatively sure this Bus was made in the town of Leyland near Preston in Lancashire, being a cca 1926 Leyland Lion PLSC1 Bus,  fitted with probably Leyland's own body.

1926 Leyland Lion PLSC1 Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Morris Oxford 13.9 Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly identify this car in Ross on Wye. Plate is VJ 538...Herefordshire?" -- Numberplate is indeed Hereford County Council issue of late 1927. We have a similar car on this page slightly later> This is a cca 1927 Morris Oxford 13.9 Flat-nose Saloon, introduced 1926 following the Bull-nose. Engine was increased to 1,802cc,13.9HP, standard front brakes, and had all-steel Budd body.

1927 Morris Oxford 13.9 Flat-nose Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Guy Twenty Seater Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly identify  this bus. Plate is I think WW 3195 I think. Photo is at Kettlewell with Skipton destination board. I think it says Pendle Bus down the side?" -- Numberplate is obscured  but WW 9195  would have been West Riding of Yorkshire CBC issue from 1929. Fuzzy photo but we are relatively sure this bus was made in Wolverhampton and was a  cca 1929 Guy OND 19 Seater Coach.

1927 Guy Twenty Seater Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Morgan Aero Three-wheeler
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by Scobie (UK) asking if anybody can help date this photo? Identifying these vehicles is the best chance of pinning a date to this picture." -- TN 3081 was Newcastle County Borough Council registration issued cca 1927. Suggested a Morris but car has too few wheels to be a Morris even though it has a bullnose type rad. This is a tree-wheeler from Malvern, being a cca 1927 Morgan Aero. The bumper and mud flap are covering the precise make of the engine.

1927 Morgan Aero Three-wheeler

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Fiat 509A Spider
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by Scobie (UK) asking if anybody can help date this photo? Identifying these vehicles is the best chance of pinning a date to this picture." -- KP 3319 was a Kent County Council registration issued late 1928, and from the external magneto housing seen at the base of the radiator it would seem to be a cca 1928 Fiat 509. From the angle of the photo it is a little difficult to say if it is the 509A Tourer (Torpedo) or two-seater (Spider). 90,000 sold between 1924-29.

1928 Fiat 509A Spider

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Citroen B14G Four Door Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please identify the car on the photo with FR 7783 registration?" -- Registration is Blackpool CBC 1928. The car is French and from just a few louvres at rear of bonnet we can surmise this is a cca 1928 Citroen B14G Conduite Interieure Four Door Saloon. Citroen had Gear Factory in UK in 1919, agents Gaston Ltd, but had few years earlier in 1926 opened assembly facility in Slough, Bucks.

1928 Citroen B14G Four Door Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Albion PM28 Viking Half-cab Bus
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly identify and give any more information about this bus...CP 6767 plate?" -- CP 6767 is a Halifax CBC issue from 1928. Bus was made in Glasgow Scotland by a company earlier better known for its car manufacturing. In 1909 they changed to commercials and made trucks for WW1. This is a cca 1928 Albion PM28 Viking Half-cab Bus. Became Layland Motors 1951, name dropped 1980.

1928 Albion PM28 Viking Half-cab Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Leyland Titan TD 1 Double Decker
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly identify and give any more information about this bus...WW 6797 plate?" -- WW 6797 is a West Riding of Yorkshire issue from 1928. The manufacturer started as Lancashire Steam Motor Company in 1896 in Leyland in Lancashire making steam lawn mowers. Became Leyland Motors 1907 making cars, lorries and busses. This is a cca 1928 Leyland Titan TD 1 Double Decker.

1928 Leyland Titan TD 1 Double Decker

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Leyland Q Type 4 Ton Lorry
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly give any more information about the Leyland lorry...WW plate, and maybe even a steam crane?" -- WW 8741 is a West Riding of Yorkshire issue from early 1929. The lorry is indeed a Leyland and from the double row of louvres it would be a cca 1929 Leyland Q Type 4 Ton Lorry. The crane could be a Rail Mobile 3 Ton Steam Crane made by Henry J Coles of Derby since 1879 to 1998.

1929 Leyland Q Type 4 Ton Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Morris Oxford Six LA Saloon
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you please identify the car on the photo with KR 2953 registration?" -- Registration is Kent County Council issue of 1929. The car is British by a bicycle manufacturing company starting making cars in the old 'Oxford Military College' in 1913 and producing 42% of British cars by 1926. This is top of range cca 1930 Morris Oxford Six Saloon with 'Dodge-alike' Budd body and 1939cc 6 cylinder engine.

1930 Morris Oxford Six Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933 GAZ Model A Touring
Another lovely photo received from our regular contributor Andrew Kostin, Moscow (Russia) saying" Here is a photo taken in summer 1934. Could you please ID this vehicle?" -- We are assuming from the hat badges that this photo was taken in Russia. We are also relatively sure this car is an American Ford Model A car which had just started being manufactured in Russia at Nizhny Novgorod in 1933 as the 1933 GAZ Model A Touring, initially by NAZ, then Gorkovsky Avtomobilny Zavod.

1933'4 GAZ Model A Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1947 Bedford OB Coach
Another interesting period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) " Can you possibly identify this bus...FWX 550 registration?" -- FWX 550 is a West Riding of Yorkshire issue from about February 1947. The bus was made by a company started in 1857 making marine engines, and later cars in 1903 in Vauxhall London, and purchased by General Motors in 1925. Early Trucks by 1930 were based on the Chevrolet, this is a cca 1947 Bedford OB Coach with Beadle body.

1947 Bedford OB Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1956 Pontiac Star Chief Sedan
Couple of interesting photos received from Ruddy Sommereyns (Belgium) showing three cars from from the fifties from the town where he lives (Temse -Belgium). Can we  identify these please ?  -- American, and from the back so needed a bit of help from our Mark Dawber who suggested a Pontiac but possibly Canadian or American. Further investigation suggests that the chrome stars on the boot would make it an  American  cca 1956 Pontiac Star Chief  Four Door  Hardtop Sedan.

1956 Pontiac Star Chief Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1956 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Coupe
Couple of interesting photos received from Ruddy Sommereyns (Belgium) showing three cars from from the fifties from the town where he lives (Temse -Belgium). Can we  identify these please ?  -- Difficult and small, angle from the back. This one was designed in Italy on the German Beetle chassis made by Volkswagen and coachwork made by the German coachwork company Karmann. Small rear lights suggest this is Series 1 cca 1956 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia 14 Coupe, 1955-59.

1956 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1957 Borgward Isabella
Couple of interesting photos received from Ruddy Sommereyns (Belgium) showing three cars from from the fifties from the town where he lives (Temse -Belgium). Can we  identify these please ?  -- This one was manufactured in Bremen in Germany. It has a couple of identification features such as the vent holes below the rad and no flashing indicators on the wings which helps to date it as a cca 1957 Borgward Isabella. Angle makes slightly hard to tell if Coupe or Saloon. 

1957 Borgward Isabella

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Unknown c1913 Two_Seater
Another very puzzling period photo sent to us by Richard Perrin  (UK) "I came across this pic of a car belonging to another Gt Uncle. Only pic I have and not much to go on. It looks as though he had a chauffer."  -- Two seater so chauffeur from front car? Almost impossible angle so none of our experts have been able to provide identification. Tall car with a high pointed bonnet. Perhaps a Belsize, Phoenix or Humber but rear springs not right. Worcester County Council Registration late 1913.

Unknown c1913 Two_Seater
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