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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1902
Quadrant Autocyclette Forecar
Two interesting photos received from
Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) taken
in Ceylon of a relative Alec Charles Hayle.
Photos from different sources but may have been taken at same time
as clothes are same. --
This vehicle is called a Forecar or Tricar, and was made by
motorcycle companies. This one was made in Birmingham and is a cca 1902
Quadrant Autocyclette
with a Minerva 211cc four stroke engine. These
were motorcycles without forks, and a two-wheeled carriage attached.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
c1903 Panhard Levassor
Very curious photo sent to us by Timothy
Martin (USA)
of a car that looks familiar but one he cannot identify.
Suggestion it may be a Napier? -- Not
an easy one but we seem to agree that it probably is not a Napier. Our
veterans expert Ariejan Bos has noted the tube for filling the water
reservoir, located halfway along the top of the bonnet. Not a Napier feature
but is on a Panhard. Subsequent research suggests it could be c1903
Panhard Levassor 20 Hp Tonneau similar
used by Rolls.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907
De Dion-Bouton Double Berline
Cinema screen grab taken from a
Belgian film " Rolande met de bles" made in 1976
where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Romantic comedy
centerd on Flemish values versus modern exploitation. --
This vehicle was sold by Bonhams in
2018 for 184,000 Euros (£164,000) in Paris. This is a cca
1907 De Dion-Bouton Type AX 15 HP Double Berline
body by Roussille Fils of
Bergerac. Body name derives from two railway carriages put
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Probably
1908 Berliet Sports Phaeton
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying
to identify the vehicle posted by Michael Schlenger on Facebook,
being a French postcard. --
Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises the
car is (almost) without doubt a rarely seen 6 cylinder 1907
or 1908 Berliet Sports Phaeton.
There are a couple of Berliet C2 22hp Double Phaetons still
arround, but from the bonnet this is one of the bigger ones,
possibly the 40. They had a range of 16,22,40,60 and 90Hp Mercedes
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Dealunay Belleville Limousine
Photo, which we have enhanced, received
from Colin McLeod, Dundee, (UK)
which is a postcard from a Perthshire collection. Curious
barrel-engined car. A Scottish made vehicle? -- No.
This is the 'Car of the Tsar' made by a boilermaking company in Paris
France which turned to cars in 1903. SP 148 is an early Fife, Scotland
registration confirmed by the large rad surround, plain shortish bonnet
and large sweep front axle. This is a cca
1908 Dealunay Belleville Open Drive Limousine,
poss 15HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1908
Horch Landaulette
Puzzling photo received from Par Sorlinden
(Sweden) featured
on Antique automobile club of Sweden's website. The registration number
A996 was registered 8th September 1910 in Stockholm, but the
manufacturer is not noted. --
First reaction to the logo is International Harvester but nothing else
fits for the year. IHC vehicles were of the 'high-wheeler' type.I has
seen a similar logo before and our Ariejan Bos advises c1908
Horch Landaulette of which few in
Sweden before WW1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
Belsize 14'16 Landaulette
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying
to identify the vehicle on the photo which has the seal of Will
Cameron, Dunedin, on it so he presumes it was taken in NZ. Does
not recognize the car. --
This type of radiator is very easy to confuse with the British
Humber of the period, This is also a British car also but one
built in Manchester by company stated out as Marshall & Co
making cars in 1897. Pre WWW1 was major UK manufacturer. This is c
1911 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Withers Tourer
Splendid but very puzzling photo sent to us by
Robert Broadbent (UK)
who runs a free community Facebook page 'Stainforth Old Photos'.
Stainforth is in Yorkshire. Trying to find out the make, model,
& year of the car in the enclosed photo. -- This
is a very difficult one because the photo is such poor quality showing
no ID details. Also not a mainstream car but two of our experts agree
it is probably a British cca
1911 Withers Tourer. Primarily
London coach-makers building cars to order.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Humber Tourer
poss 28HP
Bunch of photos sent to us by Graham Ball (UK)
this one of a side-on car being driven by his great grandfather
but no details available of year. Looking through this website it looks
like a 1912 Humber 28hp tourer? --
We agree this looks very much like a Humber Tourer. Unfortunately not
enough of the car can be seen tobe sure of the model but a rounded
bulkhead and the type of the centre of the wheelhubs suggest a biggish c1912-13
Humber which came in quite a few
models, possibly a 28HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
Calcott 10.5 HP Two Seater
Photo posted on AACA website by
Saltbush saying any help would be appreciated in identifying this
vehicle. A car in Tasmania, Australia, captioned as a single-seater. --
This vehicle is a two-Seater with Dickey for two more, -
little ones. It is a British car made in Coventry. Rad has
relatively sharp leading edges, also
has slightly elongated sidelights and no door handle so this is a cca
1914 Calcott 10.5 HP Two Seater & Dickey with
a 1.5 L engine. Bought by Singer in 1926. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Sunbeam 16HP Tourer
Photo of a photo taken through glass sent to us by Rhodri
Thomas (UK).
Perhaps a Vauxhall, spent hours on it. Postcard at White Hart in
Llantwit Major, nr Cardiff, South Wales. On windshield is a note
"Llantwit Major - Beach", - two miles away.--
Despite noting drain plug offset on rad, square mudguards etc, original
identification escaped me as was looking for something more mundane.
Subsequently advised by our sages that it is a cca
1919 Sunbeam 16HP Tourer,
3L sidevalve four.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
Citroen 5HP ' Taxi Speciale'
Photo on number of websites of
motorised Hanson Cab also discussed on Prewarcar website. Suggestion it
was an experimental Citroen taxi of cca 1925. --
Our Citroen guru Michel Gosset advises
it is a Citroen
5HP "Taxi Speciale ".
Only three louvres, hence a 1922. Picture is in 5HP book by Bernard
Laurent. Horse drawn Hansoms for two passengers and driver above rear,
patented by Joseph Hansom 1834. Similar vehicles electric and petrol
powered versions in use USA and UK by 1897
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Renault 40HP JP Sports Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying
to identify the vehicle posted- posted on facebook of the Prince
of Wales in South America. Is it a Renault JP? --
The Prince of Wales is in a bearskin hat. Research suggests the
visit was in 1925 and it is not known if photo is Montevideo or
Buenos Aires. Much digging confirms this is indeed a cca
1922 Renault 40HP JP Sports Tourer.
Variant on IR, had 9.1L 6-cylinder, available 1921-2. French
presidential car. One won Monte Carlo 1925. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:c1924
FN Open Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying
to identify the vehicle posted by Michael Schlenger on Facebook.
Is it a FN. --
Yes it does seem to be a car made by the Fabrique Nationale d’Armes
de Guerre (National Manufacturer of War Weapons) near Liege in
Belgium. The radiator leading edges are slightly rounded so has to
be pre-1927 and bonnet has 13 louvres. It looks to be a big
powerful
cca 1924 FN 3800 Tourer, but the
FN1300 and 2150 ranges had some nice models. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Ballot 2LTS Transformable
Another interesting photo received from
Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) of
his grandfather, Wilfred Eustace Sparling 1886-1944, who retired from
tea planting in Ceylon to live in his villa in Beauvallon, South of
France. Photo is notated "The pass at the Col de la
Croix Haut 19th May 1926". --
Relatively unusual French car from maker of marine engines. In
1921 they were persuaded to design racing cars with great sucess. This
is an expensive performance cca
1925 Ballot 2LTS Transformable.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Morris Oxford 13.9 Bullnose
Splendid photo sent to us by Mike
Charlton (UK)
of a car that belonged to one of
his great-uncles in late 1920s, early 1930s, and the country was
England. He has looked on the internet and nearest match he has found
is a 1929 Singer Junior, but significant, differences between the two. -- Significant
differences indeed because it is from a different manufacturer. The
primary difference is that this has a round (bullet) 'bullnose'
radiator. This is cca 1925 Morris Oxford 13.9
Bullnose Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Buick Standard Six Sedan
Another
lovely photo received from
Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) taken
in Glen Eyre of an ancestor's car that he cannot name. Could we advise
make and nearest year?--
The look of the car suggests that this vehicle is American and
background resembles Glen Eyrie Castle in Colorado Springs, but this is
Hampshire, England. Reg obscured but looks UK type. Three
windows, and rear wheel has multiple hub bolts, so this is a cca
1926 Buick Standard Six Sedan, cars similar
for 1926 and 1927.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
FIAT 503 Torpedo
Another photo received from Giorgio Tardi (Italy)
which he took in Madeira. He was not able to see it in detail and
wandered what the make and model of the vehicle was. --
From shape of radiator and badge, this car is Italian and was made in
Turin by Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino. This was a follow-on
model to the 501 and 42,000 vehicles with differing coachworks were
produced between 1926 and 1927. This is cca 1926 FIAT 503 Torpedo
with 4 cylinder 1460cc engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Lancia Lambda Pick-up
Cinema screen grab taken from an
Italian
film "Auguri e figli maschi!" (Greetings
and sons!) made in 1951 where cars are being investigated by
IMCDB. The film is
about three men planning to marry sisters and ask prospective
father-in-law to buy them flats. --
This has been suggested as a Fiat 521 but is in fact a cca
1927 Lancia Lambda Pick-up.
Recognisable by the tell tale louvres in the scuttle and high
level headlights. Could be a home-made conversion, with odd
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
Chevrolet Coach
Another interesting photo received from
Giorgio Tardi (Italy)
who took it sitting in a cafe in Madeira. He was not able to see the
front and wandered what was the make of vehicle. --
Very difficult to tell from this angle but as the bus company logo was
on the side of the vehicle, a little detective work on classic busses
in Madeira revealed that this is a
cca
1929 Chevrolet 17 Passenger Coach
operated by Empresa de Automóveis do Caniço, costal town close to
Madeira's capital Funchal.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Dunelt 500 Combo
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle
posted on the internet and wandered if it was a Dunelt? --
Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises picture probably in the UK, but
British machines did command a high price in NZ.
Dunelt made motorcycles from 1919 to '35,
re-entering the trade in 1955 with a 49cc moped. The one pictured is a
four stroke single with the 496cc OHV Sturmey engine with twin exhausts
and would be c1930
Dunelt Combo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:c1932
Framo LT 200 Van
Cinema screen grab taken from a
German
film "Der Traum von Olympia Die Nazi-Siele von 1936"
(The Olympic Dream - The 1936 Nazi Games) made in 2016 where cars are being investigated by
IMCDB. Docudrama about Jewish high jumper Gretel Bergmann. --
This vehicle is one of a number of three-wheelers popular in
Germany during this period. Not a very clear picture but there isd
a pronounced housing above the headlight and behind the petrol
tank. This is a cca
1932 Framo LT 200. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1936
GAZ M1 Saloon
Puzzling photo received from Stephen Resar
(USA) which
seems to have been obtained from Depositphotos website which is a
royalty-free photography agency in USA but founded in Ukraine. Stephen
says this is a difficult one he would like to identify, but the photo
site has no information to assist. --
We can help. The origins of Depositphotos may help because this car was
made in Nizhny Novgorod in Russian and is a cca 1936 GAZ M1 Saloon
based on the Ford Model B, no spare tyre.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938
Humber 16 Saloon
Puzzling photo sent to us by Thomas
Pattison (UK).
The people exiting the car are his great grandparents and it is
believed that the photo was taken about 1938 in Great Yarmouth.
-- Difficult one because the
logo seems unfamiliar but the car does not. Out Humber Man, Tony Oakes,
advises this is a
cca 1938 Humber 16 Saloon. Further
investigation confirms from the removable numberpalte housing and the
shape of the body moulding below the window suggests available only on
the 18.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
1945 Pedal Car
Another 1945 photo received from
Anthony T. Sparling (Ceylon) of
his two seater pedal car which had just had a puncture and request to
Father if he would repair it. It was maroon in colour and he spent many
hours pedaling round the mushroom farm. --
While quite amusing, is not something
that we can normally help with. Very unusual in period to have exposed
inflatable wire wheels and two windscreens. Suggests American made
Ford, although Lines/Tri-ang did have inflatable tyres.
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