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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903 Renault Type N Tonneau
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) found this lovely photo while surfing the net. Any ideas of the makes and models?  --  Caffyns was founded over 150 years ago by 1865 by William Morris Caffyn as a ' Gas and hot water fitter.' By 1903 they were dealing in motor cars and currently hold franchises for seven manufacturers in 14 locations in South East of England. Many of their buildings held preservation orders. Car on right is c 1903 Renault Type N Tonneau.  Registration Kent 1904.

1903 Renault Type N Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1904 Argyll 10'12HP Tonneau
Another older photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring naming. Apparently it was first vehicle to cross Otira Gogre NZ 1906, mountains inland of Christchurch.  --  Lovely picture of a one horsepower car being towed through what hopefully remains the shallows. Car is unclear but general front shape is that of an Argyll from Scotland. For the terrain it is lLikely to be biggish so probably c1904 Argyll 10'12HP Rear entrance Tonneau, or the 12'14.

c1904 Argyll 10'12HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904 Panhard Levassor 24HP Tonneau 
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) found this lovely photo while surfing the net. Any ideas of the makes and models?  --  Caffyns was founded over 150 years ago in 1865 by William Morris Caffyn as a ' Gas and hot water fitter.' By 1903 they were dealing in motor cars in SE England for a number of car manufacturers including Rolls Royce, for which they also made the coachwork. The left car is a cca 1904 Panhard Levassor 24HP Tonneau. Registration is 1904 London County Council.

1904 Panhard Levassor 24HP Tonneau 

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1904 Type 63 10HP Tonneau
Another older photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a NZ facebook post requiring naming.   --  This is likely same car as the one shown below, and was apparently second car on the West Coast of NZ on road to Lake Kanieri. The chap with the beard in the driving seat is Dick Seddon, who was the Premier of New Zealand 1893-1906. This would therefore be the same cca 1904 Peugeot Type 63 10HP Tonneau, two cylinder 1078cc.  Same hessian wrapping of tyres.

c1904 Type 63 10HP Tonneau

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904 Type 63 10HP Tonneau
Another older photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a NZ facebook post requiring naming.   --  Lovely picture of NZ lush countryside and of two cultures.  The little tank on top of the radiator is used on a number of makes but is normally a feature of the Peugeot. The narrowness of the  radiator suggests this is a cca 1904 Type 63 10HP Tonneau. Note the complete wrapping of the tyres to prevent punctures. Lovely high-wheel pony and trap in the background.

1904 Type 63 10HP Tonnea

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Thornycroft Motor Bus
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification.  Location 1906 Crown Inn.  --  Not quite sure which Crown Inn, but one near Bristol as it was served by the Bristol Tramways & Carriage Co. On the photo is ' Bus ...alford ' which would suggest a Hallford made bus. We are however relatively sure this is a cca 1906 Thornycroft Single-Deck Motor Bus which appears to have the stairs to upper deck/roof fitted ??

1906 Thornycroft Single Deck Motor Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Duhanot 12'14 Double Phaeton
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification.  Suggested as a Zedel.  --  Two of our experts doubt Zedel although similar radiator top, - odd single side round  bonnet.  Differences are that the radiator cap is smaller than neck diameter, that front wheel has 12 spokes, rear hub and bonnet handles are different and that radiator header bottom is flat not rounded. Probably cca 1907 Duhanot 12'14 Double Phaeton. 

Probably 1907 Duhanot 12'14 Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 De Dion Bouton BI Phaeton 
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification.  NZ post but location unknown.  --  Registration seems to be LN424, which could be London early 1907, and has perhaps an AA badge on the front wing. (Not aware if LN was a NZ Reg?) Seems cca 1907/8 De Dion Bouton Double Phaeton and our Ariejan Bos suggests it is a medium sized car, probably the four cylinder model, then likely the 1908 18HP model BI.

1908 De Dion Bouton Model BI Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Dennis Double Decker Bus
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification.  Location Nelson 1909 Bus.  --  From the sectionalised bonnet and rad this seems to be a cca 1909 Dennis Double Decker Bus, and as this is presumably Nelson in New Zealand it makes this Bus very far from its home town of Guildford England. Dennis Brothers began by making cars in 1898 but found that the commercial market was more profitable. Are still active!

 1909 Dennis Double Decker Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1909 Renault 18HP Fire Engine
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1951 British comedy film  "Take me to Parsis" where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Film about horseracing, switched horses and smuggling of money.  --  French made by the then largest car manufacturer in France. It had received an order 1905 to create a fleet of Taxis for Paris, and also became best selling brand in USA. Also made commercials supplying Paris busses. This is cca 1909 Renault 18HP Fire Engine based on touring car chassis.

1909 Renault 18HP Fire Engine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 International Harvester Model D
Another older photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a NZ facebook post requiring naming.   --  Very agricultural looking vehicle which suggests American 'buggy' style car of which IHC were the longest proponent. This one has a short rounded bonnet & newer-looking bodywork so would be a cca 1910 International Harvester Model D High Wheeler. Solid tyres 3218cc two cylinder horisontally opposed fan air cooled petrol engine, max 20mph/33kph.

1910 International Harvester Model D

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911 De Dion Bouton Type CS
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1970 American film comedy "The Phynx" where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Film about The Phynx rock'n'roll band sent to Albania to rescue kidnapped celebrities.  --  French car made by one of the earliest and biggest auto makers in Paris France operating between 1883 and 1953. Started by a Marquis buying a locomotive from a toymaker, made steam cars and later petrol cars and commericals. This is a cca 1911 De Dion Bouton Type CS Torpedo.

1911 De Dion Bouton Type CS

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Phénix Transformable
Puzzling unclear photo posted on AACA by Remraf (USA) of car belonging to 2x Grandfather in England. -- Ariejan Bos suggested body by Phénix. Further research suggests Phénix (ex Prunel Freres of Paris (1900-14) with agents in UK) built the Phénix car 1912'14. This has a Transformable top probably built by Ateliers Loustaunau. It is cca 1912 Phénix Two Seater'Dickey Transformable. with optional three position top, Phénix cars were built with 10. 12 and 14HP  four cylinder engines.

 1912 Phénix Two Seater'Dickey Transformabl

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 Matchless JAP 770cc Combo
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a NZ facebook post requiring identification.  Photo c 1920, location unknown.  --  Our motorcycle sleuth contacted his guru Martin Shelley who advised that this is a British motorcycle made by the Collier brothers of Plumstead, London and is a cca 1912 Matchless,  probably with the 770cc 6HP JAP engine. The forks are very distinctive as is curly script  Matchless logo. Many sold to Antipodes. Closed 1966.

1912 Matchless JAP 770cc Combo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Ford Model T Town Car
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.
-- Lovely photo of possibly the first taxi in Greymouth on the west coast of NZ South Island. Car is American and would have cost $US900 FOB Detroit. This is a cca 1912 Ford Model T Town Car, Four cylinder 20 HP 6 passenger, other parlance an Open Drive Landaulette. Many were bought, or were used as a Taxi.

1912 Ford Model T Town Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 Girling 6HP Delivery Van
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification.  --  This proved to be quite a difficult one until I realised we have had one of these as fire engine many years ago on HP24 - from a packet of crisps! This is a cca 1913 Girling 6HP Three-wheeler Delivery Van  built in Bedford. It has a single cylinder air cooled engine started from the very off-set handle right, and friction drive to bevel gear on the rear wheel.

1913 Girling 6HP Delivery Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 De Dion Bouton DX Torpedo
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or Postcards of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been identified.
-- Car seems to have an American registration plate so is very far from home, having been built in Puteaux, Paris, France by one of world's first car makers. - who initially specilised in steam cars making first petrol car in 1895. Closed 1932. This is cca 1913 De Dion Bouton 9'13 Type DX Four Seat Torpedo.

1913 De Dion Bouton DX Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer
One from a number of photos received from Duncasn Campbell (UK) of cars which belonged to his father. All were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos after that.   --  Lovely photo of an old car fording a river, like the Argyll also on this page but this one not needing a horse. Similarly, the car is also British made, this one built in Wolverhampton by company started in 1901. This is a cca 1913/14 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer.  1912-1914, four cylinder, 15.9 HP, 3016 cc.

1914 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919 Buick Model H45 Touring
One from a number of photos received from Duncasn Campbell (UK) of cars which belonged to his father. All were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos later.   -- Lovely picture of dad presumably in local environment. Cannot read the building sign. Interesting to note a man in the background is wearing a fez. The car is from an American company formed 1899 in Detroit, and was the beginning of the General Motors group 1908. This is a cca 1919 Buick Model H45 Touring.  

1919 Buick Model H45 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  Possibly 1920 Belga 10'12 Sports
Another photo from regular contributor Bruno Costers (Belgium), photo of a photo.  --  Teutonic small sidelights below headlamps, three louvre bonnet, unique bolt just below the front door. - No positive responses from our experts beyond possibly Durkopp or Czech Zbrojovka. Ariejan Bos has provided interesting possibility, as Englebert tyres, it being Belgian cca 1920 Belga Two Seater Sports, made only 1920-21, Had 10'12 HP Ballot engine to Domecq Cazaux friction drive in cone clutch. 

Possibly 1920 Belga 10'12 Sports

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1923 Australian Six Tourer
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) from a facebook post requiring identification.  Location unknown.--  Rolls-Royce looking radiatior, so limited choice. Very bright badge, rectangular rather than oval, limits it further, but does lead to a relatively obscure automobile built in Sydney Australia 1919 to 1925. This is c1923 Australian Six Tourer. About 500 cars ov various body styles werew made and sixteen vehicles survive. Number shipped to NZ.

c1923 Australian Six Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Delaunay Belleville 25'30CV
Cinema screen grab taken from a 1987-2009children's TV Series "Chucklevision" where cars being investigated by IMCDB. Barry and Paul Chuckle get into various exaggerated situations.  --  French car made in Paris by company who made boilers in 1850 and was one of earliest to make luxury grand cars which were widely used by European Royalty including the Russian Tsar. This is as cca 1924 Delaunay Belleville 25'30CV Coupe Chauffeur 5 L 6cyl. 'Period' Kinross number.

1924 Delaunay Belleville 25'3

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931 Daimler Double Six
Puzzling unclear photo received from James Baxendale (UK) of cars belonging to his family. Can we identify it from the mascot? Could it possibly be a Sunbeam? The registration number is GO 536# , which is London March-May 1931. --  Mascot appears to be a RAC members badge so not much help but the radiator top and double section positively points to a cca 1931 Daimler Double Six car. However the low position of the headlamps suggests this could be a chauffeur limousine?

1931 Daimler Double Six

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1938 Pontiac 6 Cyl Deluxe Sedan
One from a number of photos received from Duncasn Campbell (UK) of cars which belonged to his father. All were taken in South Africa. Dad got licence in 1920 so photos after that.   --  This one is of the back of an American car made by General Motors and was the follow on from the Oakland. It was named after an Odawa Chief of the Great Lakes area fighting the British. A Michigan town was named after him and this car wads made in that town. This is a cca 1938 Pontiac 6 Cyl Deluxe Sedan.

1938 Pontiac 6 Cyl Deluxe Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1950 Opel Kapitan Saloon
Another interesting photo received from Giorgio Tardi (Italy) which he came across while surfing the web and wandered what the make and model of the car was in 1950.  --  Always a bit difficult to tell cars from the back but this photo did not help much with only having half the car visible. Can however advise that this is a German car made by an American company General Motors in Rüsselsheim, Hesse, Germany,  in various forms, this being c1950 Opel Kapitan Saloon in Mark II version. 

1950 Opel Kapitan Saloon
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