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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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DENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904
Daimler Rear Entrance Tonneau
A bunch of lovely photos received from
Allan Winn (UK)
originating from the Duncan Ferguson
family and taken in Northumberland, near the Scottish border. -- Registrations
appears to be A 7683 which is a London CC issue of 1904, which would
make it a 'veteran' car. It has chain drive, no roof and is a medium
size car with a fluted radiator. This is a cca
1904 Daimler Rear Entrance Tonneau, a
16'20 or a 18'22HP. Daimler made cars for British Royalty to 1950, then
won by Rolls Royce.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1906 Belsize 30 or 40HP Tourer
Very puzzling photo received from
Autohistorian Mohammad
Luqman, from Dubai (UAE) which
is notated 'HH Maharajah Saheb in his 24HP Napier'. -- Indian
internet has numerous views of
photo. Complex
man Sir Ranjitsinhji Vibhaji Jadeja, Maharaja Jam Saheb. Inherited
throne resulting from family feuds. Part educated UK, became first
class UK test cricketer. Various trips to/from India pursuing throne,
eventually invested 1907. NOT a Napier. This is a c1906 Belsize 30 or 40HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1906 Wolseley Siddeley 32HP Tourer
A bunch of lovely photos received from
Allan Winn (UK)
originating from the Duncan Ferguson
family and taken in Northumberland, near Scottish border. -- Registrations
X were Nortumberland CC 1904-1921 but all details have been lost. Car
has chain drive and high badge so early. Two of our experts agree this
is a cca 1906 Wolseley Siddeley
Tourer, probably the 32HP, four
cylinder, 7095cc. Herbert Austin left Wolseley 1905 replaced by JD
Siddeley, added own name, kept to 1911.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
Maudsley Double Decker
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards
of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been
identified. -- Not
sure of origin of photo but the bus is relatively unusual with that
type of roundish radiator. Took quite some investigation to determine
that it is a British
cca 1906 Maudsley Double Decker.
Maudsley made fine expensive cars with circular radiators, 3, 5
and 6 ton lorries in WW1. Merged AEC1948.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Daimler Tourer
A bunch of lovely photos received from
Allan Winn (UK)
originating from the Duncan Ferguson
family and taken in Northumberland, near the Scottish border. -- Car
in the middle, very hard to distinguish as it is so small, but has the
rather unique Daimler horn trumpet between the two headlights, No
registration to help with dating. Rather small radiator high up, fins
on the top not on sides, medium model, so is probably a cca
1908 Daimler Tourer, possibly 30 5HP,
probably poppet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Humber 12 HP Tourer
Photo posted by Clare Bevan (UK)
on facebook and shared on the 'Old photos of people with their
rides Pre-1980s'. The subjects are Dr John Parkinson and his wife Mary
of High St Saffron Walden. The building in background has subsequently
been demolished to make way for a post Office Sorting Office. What is
the car? -- The
car is English and has a 'diamondish' shape radiator rather than rectangular.
with a shortish bonnet so is probably a cca
1908 Humber 12 HP Tourer, rather than
15.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Armstrong-Whitworth Tourer
A bunch of lovely photos received from
Allan Winn
(UK)
originating from the Duncan Ferguson
family and taken in Northumberland, near the Scottish border. -- Car
on right; registrations X were Nortumberland CC, but all details have
been lost. Our Ariejan Bos advises this is a cca 1909
Armstrong-Whitworth Tourer. Looks a
medium sized model so probably an 18'22 of which a 'plaque' enquiry is
below. Low reg number of c1905, so this could be an early 'cherished
plate' from an earlier car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Armstrong Whitworth 18'22
Photo of an interesting plaque sent to us
by John Barrick (UK) owned
by grandfather who never owned a car
at at time when wass 'Foreman of Works' at a Manchester council. Can
we provide more info. -- Regret
we have no access to chassis records for Armstrong Whitworth who made
quality large chauffeured cars. The 18'22 introduced 1909 was a smaller
3400cc. Photo of a 1910 18'22
Landaulette shows similar model,
chassis 227. Also
HP120. 1914 became Siddeley Deasy
>Armstrong Siddeley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Lozier Briarcliff Roadster
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA website by Ray Garcia (USA)
saying this picture was taken during the summer of 1912. Car
was advised as a cca
1910 Lozier Briarcliff Roadster but
what is the bulge below rad?-- Bulbous
round front but a small central lable advises this is a Ever Ready
Automatic Starter, self re-winding after start heavy-duty spring,
released by a pedal. which came in three sizes. Marketed by Auto
Improvements, New York. Volkmar is similar with larger flat
front.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1912 Vermorel 12'14 Two-Seater
Another photo from our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) from a post requiring naming of
vehicle. Photo of Canterbury Aviation Company Chief Flying
Instructor, Cecil Hill at Sockburn Aerodrome c1917." Note
the cat. Darracq? -- Big
V missing from rad script. Car is French, from near Lyon by 1843 farm
equipment maker who employed Pilain to develop cars 1899. This is
probably the earlier cca
1912 Vermorel 12'14 Two-Seater,
replaced in 1913 by the 12'16 HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Winton Six Roadster
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or postcards
of very interesting ancient machinery which has not yet been
identified. -- Damaged
photo we have repaired of a American made car from Cleveland, Ohio
built by a Scottish immigrant who had made one of USA's first cars in
1897, Alexander Winton. This is a cca
1913 Winton Six Roadster. Became
GM and developed two-stroke diesel engines and engine for railway
locos.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1914
Benz 8'20 Runabout Special
Another request for identification of a
vehicles received from our regular contributor João Ferreira (Portugal).
Photo taken in Lisbon, near Ribeira market, byTagus. -- Not
seen this before; looks c1914 Benz Spitzenkühler
radiator, Benz pattern 4 cylinder, but also scuttle/fillecap and
reversed gills of c1923 Renault. Our Ariejan Bos doubts Renault
connection and thinks cca
1914 Benz 8'20 Runabout with some
cooling invention with a shaft/chain drive from the back to second
fan/pump?
cca
1914 Benz 8'20 Runabout with some
cooling invention with a shaft/chain drive from the back to second
fan/pump?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Studebaker Series 14 Touring
Interesting email from Par Sorliden (Sweden)
saying he thinks the car we have identified as a REO on Page
43 is in fact a Studebaker. -- Original
photo has a REO 'hooded' radiator top, body, scuttle, skirt,
doors, dumburons, screen and angle of door top to windscreen, etc. I
have, however, spotted an item that makes him right that original photo
is cca
1914 Studebaker Series 14, is that
there is a petrol filler on the scuttle which neither Reos nor other
Studes had. Also it is RH Drive!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1916 Ford Model T Touring
Lovely photo received from David Garton (UK)
asking for identification of car driven by Walter "Jack"
Brayley whose family were originally Barnstaple Cabmen in the days of
the horse drawn cab. Jack continued the family tradition when motor
cars took over in and around Lapford Devon. -- Transverse
front and rear springs, curved rather than squared bonnet, electric
lights, two man top, this is an American car from Detroit, some
assembled in UK, a cca
1916+ Model T Ford Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1919 Fiat Model 501 Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a
French film " Le Grand Carneaval" (The Big Carneval"
made in 1983 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Americans in
Algeria during the Allied invasion of North Africa in 1942.
Filmed in Tunisia. -- Car
is Italian, made in Turin by Fabbrica
Italiana Automobili Torino, which has been making cars since 1900. This
model is from the vintage period. Slightly curved mudguards, heavy
windscreen frame, no front brakes so c
1919 Fiat Model 501 Torpedo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1927 Riley 11.9 Four Door Coach
Another request for identification from
regular contributo Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking for identification of 'car in the
office yard'. -- Rather
recognisable radiator top even though the badge is not showing. Quite a
well known British make but a relatively unusual model. This car was
built by 1890 Coventry cycle manufacturer who turned to cars 1907. This
is a cca
1927 Riley 11.9 Four Door Coach which
has a 1645cc 4 cylinder sidevalve engine and four wheel brakes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928 Hupmobile Touring
Lovely photo received from David Puckridge
(UK)
asking for ID of car used as Bridesmaids
transportation, in Madras, India 1933. Poor photo and theories as to
make. Lagonda Club said to contact us. -- Distorted
photo but our Mark Dawber believes it an American car from Detroit, a
cca 1928 Hupmobile Touring, Not
certain of model. Looks bigger than the Six, could be a Century
Eight which has a 120" wheelbase and there was also the bigger 8
on 125" wheelbase. Hubs were different in 1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1928
Chevrolet 1 Ton truck
Another request for identification from
regular contributo Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking for identification of 'Lorry on
Princess Street'. --
Much of this vehicle is obscured and
picture was very grainy, but possible to make out the badge which is
American. This is a truck made by
General Motors and could have been assembled in a number of places in
US and overseas From the shape of the mudguards and overall proportions
it is probably a cca
1928 Chevrolet 1 Ton Truck.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1931 Tri-Ang Pedal Car
Another request for identification from
regular contributo Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking for identification. This could be vehicle Reg No. KY 2419. -- Indeed
this would seem to be a very similar, or same, car to the cca 1932
Humber 16'50 Saloon with the uniformed man. The boy's car is cca
1931 Lines Bros Pedal car. Lines
Bros of Merton London claimed to be the largest toy maker in the world,
made Tri-Ang Toys, Pedigree Prams, Meccano etc. Lines
closed 1971.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1931 Tri-Ang Sports Pedal Car
Another request for identification from
regular contributor Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking for identification. can we identify
and date
this pedal car? -- Shown
in the 1939/40 Tri-ang catalogue. Lines
Bros of Merton London who claimed to be the largest toy maker in the world,
made Tri-Ang Toys, Pedigree Prams, Meccano etc. Lines
closed 1971. This shape was made in three versions Deluxe & Special
with wire wheels and
c1940
Tri-ang Sports with solid wheels.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1932 Humber 16'50 Saloon
Another request for identification from
regular contributo Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking for identification of 'car in
office yard'. -- Military
gentleman posing with car and lady. Registration is Bradford CBC 1932.
Picture must have been taken after January 1940 as this is when the three
sloth headlamp mask became compulsory, normally on
the offside headlight. Blackout
'dimout' came with the V bombs in December 1944. This car is a cca
1932 Humber 16'50 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1932 Bedford WS 1.5 Ton Dropside
Another request for identification from
regular contributo Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking if this lorry is the same as the
one below snapped in different location.. -- Regret
No. This vehicle is of an American origin being a General Motors product
originally marketed in UK as a 'Chevrolet Bedford', as made in Luton,
Bedfordshire, by Vauxhall Motors. Light lorry so probably a cca
1932 Bedford WS 1.5 Ton Dropside Lorry.
Registration is Bradford CBC 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1932 Commer Raider 1.5-ton Chassis
Another request for identification from
regular contributo Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking if this lorry is the same as the
one above photoed in different location.. -- Regret
No. This vehicle is British, also made in Luton, but by company started
in 1907 as Commercial Cars. Liquidated 1923, bought by Humber, renamed
Commer Cars, Rootes 1932, Chrysler 1973, now Peugeo. This was a
demonstrator cca
1932 Commer Raider 1.5-ton chassis
with 22.6hp six.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
c1940 Leeway Triumph
Another request for identification from
regular contributor Bill Stothard (UK) of
Cudworth Local History Group asking for identification. can we identify
and date
this pedal car? -- While
we are definitely not toy cars specialists, this does not seem a Tri-ang
because the wheels have circular holes in them, but could be from
Patterson Edwards of London Peckham who made a range of pedal cars at
same period in the Leeway range, possibly the
c1940 Leeway Triumph. Company wound up
in 1981.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown Tourer
Very Puzzling period picture posted by
Olof Cederberg (Sweden) member
of Automobilhistoriska Klubben in Sweden asking for help in
identification of photo of car taken summer 1919 in Flen, 100 km
from Stockholm. Car belonged to grandfather Karl Pettersson, or he had
it for sale through his business. Olof's mother is 2 years old and is
the first child behind the front seats. This is the only photo they
have of this car.
-- Our
experts after a number of weeks have not been able to come up with a
positive
identification. Any
HELP would be appreciated
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