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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1901
MMC Motor Bus
Slightly damaged period photo
received from Steve Manns (UK)
saying he would very much appreciate it if one of our experts could name
the vehicle in this photo. -
A couple of our experts agree this could be a
cca 1901 MMC Motor Bus. A photo of an
almost identical motor bus is shown in a 1901 copy of the The
Motor Car Journal, in Balham. Motor Manufacturing Co of Coventry formed
1898 made high wheeler cars, and motor waggonettes and chars-a-bancs.
Went into liquidation 1904.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Georges Richard RE Tonneau
Intriguing bunch of photos of the same car
received from Eugenie Roux from Cornwall
(UK) driven by
Albert Roux (not the chef!) in Normandy, France circa 1910. " (I'm
a bit worried about the chap lying in the road in front of the
car!)". -- Advised
by our veterans expert Ariejan Bos that this car is a 1903 Georges
Richard 12Hp. The identification features are the straight dumb irons
with the short curve at the end and also the offset crank handle.
Became Richard Brasier. Left to form Unic 1905.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904
De Dion Bouton 8HP Populaire
Lovely period photo, a bit damaged,
received from June Cobley (UK) with
everyone posed around a car, including grandmother and her parents. The
car is K3904 believed registered in Liverpool although the family
probably lived in Penrith. -- We
repaired photo, indeed Liverpool CBC, but no dating data available. The
Car has been confirmed as a Paris made cca 1904 De Dion Bouton 8HP
Populaire Biplace (two-seater). De Dion Bouton was at time the
world's largest automobile manufacturer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Deasy 25 Tourer
Very unusual photo received from Geoff
Clark of Farnham (UK) who
states he is very impressed with your website and wondered if we could
identify car owned by wife's great grandfather from Elstead Surrey. -- Unusual
bonnet and radiator, limiting number of manufactures. From the bonnet
and radiator this looks like a 1907 Deasy, but without front
transverse spring? Our Ariejan Bos advises 1908
Deasy 25 model when they had apparently
abandoned the transverse front spring for normal.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1909
Cadillac Model 30 Demi-Tonneau
Photo posted on AACA website by Scottm (USA)
saying photo probably taken in Indiana. Any idea what the car is? -- My
thought from the rear wheel hub and relatively pointed radiator was
that it was a Cadillac. Contacted our Dutch veteran expert Ariejan Bos
who also suggests Cadillac but pinpoints it to a 1909 Cadillac. He said
it looks too short for a touring car, so more like a Toy Tonneau (Demi-Tonneau).
This would make it a four cylinder cca
1909 Cadillac Model 30 Demi-Tonneau,
$1.4k.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Humber 28HP Tourer
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by
Mike Mackrill (UK) with website called Nostalgic Picture Library.
" Would appreciate identification of motor vehicle with the Red
Cross Ladies within, taken on the Isle of Wight, possibly Brighstone.
Building in background could be that owned by Cheverton, garage owner
at Newport. " -- No
registration visible to aid dating. From the distinctive wheel
hubs, this is a lovely photo of a cca 1911 Humber 28 HP
Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Hobart TC 269cc Single
One of a number of interesting and
puzzling photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK)
who has high quality photo website called Nostalgic Picture Library. Can
we help out by identifying this vehicle?
-- Unusual
motorcycle manufactured by Hobart Bird & Co in Coventry who
operated between 1901-1924 making bikes and motorcycles. Originally JAP
engines, in 1915 started using Villiers engines. This is a cca
1920 Hobart TS 269 cc single-cylinder,
registered by the Isle of Wight C.C.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1922
Oakland Sensible Six
Photos received in 2007 from Kevin Mikesell from
Illinois (USA) trying
to identify the car in this picture with his Great Aunt and Uncle. He
assumes the picture was taken around 1925 in Michigan.
-- Picture
was fuzzy and we had enhanced it, but at that time it remained
unknown. It remained so for 10 years! However we have now been advised by Varun
Coutinho that he thinks it is a cca1922
Oakland Sensible Six Model 6-44
5-Passenger Touring. Made in Pontiac, Michigan, & became GM in 1909.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923 Ford Model TT Bus
Rather fascinating photo sent to us by Amelia
Fernandez (Spain)
from Guregipuzkoa
Photo Archive, Spain, showing a public transport vehicle with
a 1924 San Sebastian license plate. What is it, and what are
contraptions attached to the wheels? -- The
rather nice vehicle is a cca
1923 Ford Model TT chassis with a
local bus body. Gizmos on wheels are mud flaps to prevent car wheels
splashing sideways at horses, at other cars and people on
sidewalk. Solid or broom types invented and used.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Ford Model TT Charabanc
One of a number of interesting and
puzzling photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK)
who has high quality photo website called Nostalgic Picture Library. Can
we help out by identifying this vehicle?
-- Interesting
little vehicle with a demountable top and a special bus body.
Transverse front spring denotes a Model T, long wheelbase denotes a TT
and the TA 3529 numberplate denotes it was a cca
1924 Ford Model TT Charabanc
registered by Devon County Council. TTs were made to 1927, then
AA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1924
Austro Daimler ADM II Tourer
Couple of lovely period photo received from
Jonas Nilsson (USA)
saying they have relocated from England to Westport Connecticut
to an old house which comes with some car history. Can we identify two
pictures assumed of the same car. -- Not
the same car and not even from the same country. This car was made in Wiener-Neustadt
in Austria with a pedigree of Paul Daimler and Ferdinand Porsche. This
is a cca
1924 Austro Daimler ADM II Tourer.
In 1934 it became Steyr-Daimler-Puch.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1925
Buick Master Six Coach
Photo received from Clatk Zellmer (USA)
saying it was was taken in Arcadia Iowa, of the Mess family in
front of their home, exact date is unknown. They are doing a
presentation on family history for a reunion and would like to find the
year, make, and model of the car. -- As
it was also posted on the AACA website our New Zealand contributor Mark
Dawber answered there that it was a cca
1925 Buick Master Six Coach - Model
25-40 - which was a new body style on shorter 120" wheelbase.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1926 Rover 9/20 Super Sports
Interesting email received from Bernhard
Ruest (Switzerland)
relating to his car which is similar to one on our HP51
and also 55 subsequently
identified
as a cca 1926 Rover 9/20
Sports. Could it be the same car?
--Examination of
details such as louvers, mudguards, step etc confirms it is not the
same car. However in his searches, one of the owners was a Mike Erroll
of Godstone. Small world. Mike was a friend and Chairman of this
Society for many years. He sadly died only a couple of years ago.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Probably
c1932 NAZ/GAZ Model A
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who
is a collector of old photos. Photo
was taken in the USSR, in the Soviet city of Gorky. --
Looks American but with a star logo? We are not specialists in Soviet
cars but we think this is one of the early 1932 NAZ-A, later 1933+ GAZ-A,
cars made in
Nizhny Novgorod using
cca
1930 Ford Model A parts initially
from the USA. Petrol filler cap was on the scuttle and radiator top was
not scalloped like the US 'A'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932
Morris Cowley Saloon
Photo received from our Singer Expert
Simon Bishop (UK)
saying he has been asked to identify this car which he thought to be a
Morris. Can we help? -- MV
reg is Middlesex between 7'31 and 6'33. Single wiper, adjacent door
handles, wheelhubs, bumper, and shape of radiator top with a lower
inset section, splayed bumper. 32 Major? Combined wisdom of Tony Oakes
and Chas Moody advise that from body molding above handles, not present
on Major, this is a cca
1932 Morris Cowley Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932
Morris Minor Saloon
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand)
was intrigued by this photo he found on the internet, and wondered if we
could identify the pre war Morris. Thinks the American towing the
caravan is a 1929 Dodge DA. Picture taken in the late 1940. -- Our
Morris expert Chas Moody had a couple of lengthy goes at it and aided by
Tony Oakes thinks this is cca
1932 Morris Minor Family Eight Saloon
as has the windscreen with rounded corners. Range did not change
from 1933-34.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1934
Ford V8 40 Touring
Couple of lovely period photo received from
Jonas Nilsson (USA)
saying they have relocated from England to Westport Connecticut
to an old house which comes with some car history. Can we identify two
pictures assumed of the same car. -- Not
the same car. This one is home grown in Detroit. The main helpful
identification feature is the logo on the front wheel which two of our
experts have rightly identified as V8. It also has a handle on the
front of the bonnet so is a cca
1934 Ford V8 40.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Rover 16 Sports
Saloon
Anoher photo received
from Turtle Bunbury (Eire) who is trying to
identify the make of thise vehicle. Group snap was taken between
1944 and 1951. Man on left is his grandfather Lord Rathdonnell and his
wife Pamela is seated next to his aunt Alexandra as a child (born 1940).
Note an unidentified assassin on the bonnet! -- Upmarket
British car that was much a status symbol. From the long louvre panel
this is a cca 1937 Rover 16 Sports
Saloon. Made 1937-40, 2147 cc,
capable 75mph.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938
Lancia Astura Pillarless Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from taken from an
American film " The Sicilian" made in 1987 where cars
are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of a infamous bandit who took on
the rich landowners, Mafia and governmenent in attempts to liberate 1950s
Sicily. -- Made
by Mario Puzo after success of The Godfather. Problems with local Mafia
sorted when allowed to act in the film!! Legal hassles difficult. Door
handles and shape of louvres suggest a cca
1938 Lancia Astura Pillarless Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1941
Fiat 1500C Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from taken from an
American film " The Sicilian" made in 1987 where cars
are being investigated by IMCDB. Story of a infamous bandit who took on
the rich landowners, Mafia and govermenent in attempts to liberate 1950s
Sicily. -- Made
by Mario Puzo after success of The Godfather. Problems with local Mafia
sorted when allowed to act in the film!! Legal hassles difficult. Door
handles, chrome strip and bonnet air flap suggest a cca
1941 Fiat 1500C Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1951 Panhard Dyna X 120 Cabriolet
One of a batch of interesting photographs sent to us by
Fouad Tahri (Morocco) of
a car found languishing in a garage in
Morocco. He knows nothing about it, and photos taken by someone else. -- The
rubbish on it does not help but looks very French. Designed by JA
Gregoire and manufactured by Société AE Panhard et Levassor, this is
a cca
1951 Panhard Dyna X 120 Two-door Cabriolet,
front mounted two cylinder boxter air cooled engine, 4 gears, 745cc
rated 4CV capable of 120 KPH.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1955
Dodge Kingsway V8
Another very interesting photograph sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who
is a collector of old photos. Any ideas on where the photo was
taken? USA? --
No, faces are oriental/pacific. Our NZ Contributor Mark Dawber suggests
New Guinea and the car could be from Australia?? That floating dock
should be a clue. Bikes look odd. The car closest looks a 1955 Dodge
Kingsway V8. There are three Chevrolets from the 1949-52 period and at
back is a 1951-52 Plymouth, and a VW.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Miniature
1960s Fire Extinguisher
Intriguing photo received from Henry Hammar
(Sweden) of an
unknown gizmo in an ex-British Embassy Daimler in Helsinki, Finland.
Current owner over 20 years no ideas from anybody as to what it
was. -- We
contacted various Daimler specialists and also contacted Keith
Sanderson, the Queen's Head Chauffeur at Buckingham Palace, but no
ideas. We have now determined made by Bradville in Maidenhead 1960s and
original is labeled as ' Aston
Martin Lagonda Jet Fire Extinguisher '.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified
cca 1909 Chassis
Number of current photos
received from Pino Lombardi (UK) trying
to identify the make and year of this four cylinder engined rolling
chassis; chain drive, three quarter elliptics, straight front
axle, wire wheels, RH drive, transmission brake and no front
brakes and two foot pedals. --
Our experts believe these parts
do not belong together but have been assembled for many years from the
evidence of the rust 'patina' and corrosion. Unlikely it ever left
a car maker's factory as we see it now !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown
1925'9 'Golfer's Roadster
Puzzling photos sent to us by Mike
Wasson (USA) from
New Mexico on an eleven thousand acre
ranch. What
is it ? "It appears to be a grave yard of old rigs. Ford
cowl nearby. What throws me is a small one foot square door or opening
behind the passenger door area." -- This
is a cca 1925'9
'Golfer's Roadster/Coupe' and the
small square door is for stowing away golf clubs. Not a Ford. Possibly
a Lincoln but many other makes had the feature including Cadillac,
Hupmobile, Willys, Marmon...
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified
1940 Three-Wheeler
Intriguing period photo
received from Steve Manns (UK)
saying he would very much appreciate it if one of our experts could name
the vehicle in this photo. The St Johns Ambulance photo was taken in
1941, if that's any help. -
Registration JPH was issued by the Surrey County Council 9/40 to 6/41 so
likely 433 was late 1940. Many of our experts have had a look at his one
and some thought perhaps based on an Austin 7 but Austin people are
saying parentage is early three wheeler.
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