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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1902 Arrol-Johnson 12HP Dogcart
Photo received from Ian P. Wheeler (UK)
showing his Grandfather who was the Rescue Manager of a colliery
in Fife and Ian is trying to identify the car in which he and his crew
are posing in. Our Tim Harding identified the vehicle as a cca
1902 Arrol-Johnson 12HP Dogcart. Arrol-Johnson were one of
the first British car manufacturers making the Dogcart in 1895 in
Camlachie, Glasgow, Scotland. Name 'dogcart' comes from a light
back-to-back seat carriage, that could be pulled by a dog !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1903 Darracq Tonneau
Lovely period photos received from
Michael Rowland (UK). Our
site has been recommended to him with the hope we can identify the car
owned by his Grandfather, Arthur Percival Rowland (1875-1924),
completing a family history ‘blank’. The car, the first in
the village of Millbrook, nr Southampton, is a cca
1903 Darracq Tonneau. Registration is 1904 Southampton.
Interesting snippet is that the motorcycle in background of the ‘Family’
photograph of cca 1912, is an unusual cca1906
Rex 3HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1903 Buick Phaeton perhaps?
Photo received from George Schneider,
North Palm Beach, (USA)
which was found in a box of old family shots. He has been trying
to identify it. What is that odd flat coil between the front wheels? -
The visible 'radiator' is a dummy and the lower 'coil' is the cooling
radiator, common on earlier European cars. The car looked like a cca
1903 Buick Phaeton but many
years later in 2024 on Help Page 205 it was advised by Varun Couthinho
that is is most likely a
1905 Phelps 20HP Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: pre
1904
UNIDENTIFIED
Fascinating set of photographs received
from Mrs. Joan Green from Lancashire (UK). They
are all from an album discovered in her late great aunt's loft. Being
into family history she was hoping it was from her family from
Lancashire, but they all seem to be around London and the Thames so the
album may have been there when aunt moved in. The name on the album is Allvey.
The car has the very distinctive protrusions on the radiator tank.
Any
help would be much appreciated.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1907 De Dion Bouton
Interesting photo received from Frédéric
Lefrac (France)
advising of De Dion Bouton related
photographs being offered for sale by auction. This photo was part of
the flyer for the event. One of the photos shows Victor Collignon on
Peking to Paris 1907
De Dion Bouton photographed at the
factory in Puteaux. The original run was held in 1907 after an
article in the French 'Le Matin' asking if anybody cound do it. 40 cars
entered, only five took part. Won by Itala, with both De Dions
finishing.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: cca
1908 Stanley Steamer
Photo received from Jaime F. Tiongson (Philippines)
President of the Railways and Industrial Heritage Society of the
Philippines obtained from the US Archives showing President
William Howard Taft (Secretary of War at that time) and Governor General
Cameron Forbes with a Stanley
Steam Automobile. Picture was
taken in Baguio when President Taft visited Philippines a year before he
became president. This relates to our main article "Stanley
Steamers in 1908 Philippines".
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1909 Humber Landaulette
Photo received from Bruno Costers (Belgium) of
a Humber. Bruno has a website containing histories of a number of car
manufacturers. This photo is interesting because it has been seriously
retouched by hand at some time with a brush and the marks are quite
evident. Upright bulkhead and windscreen, and flat mudguards, suggest
that this car is a Beeston cca
1907/8 Humber Landaulette. Difficult
to define the size in view that about 10 different
model sizes were available, poss 20HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1910 Sunbeam Tourer
Lovely period photo received from
Michael Rowland (UK).
Very brief email: " I would appreciate the ID on the attached car.
The driver and owner is my grandfather, Laurence Kitchin outside his
house near Leeds. No other info I'm afraid. Thanks Richard Steel."
We are pretty sure that this car is a cca
1910 Sunbeam Tourer. There were three
models made during that year and we think it is probably the middle
sized 16/20 model, 13'10" long, 5'9" wide, 4 cylinder
3.8L engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1911 Napier Taxi 15HP
Slight problem here. Photo received from
Colin (New Zealand) saying
it is of a Unic Taxi driven by his Grandfather. We think he could be
wrong. Our Tim Harding confirms that: "This definitely is Napier
15HP Taxi of about 1911 operated by
W&G Du Cros of Acton, whose W&G insignia can be seen on the
door." W&G Du Cros definitely operated Napier taxis by
the hundred. The number plate suggest Middlesex cca 1911. The famous
Napier cars were made in adjoining Acton Vale from
1903.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: 1913
Enfield Tourer
Photo received from David Handyside (Australia)
advising that the remains of a cca
1913 Enfield Tourer have come to
light. It was apparently delivered to the original owner in
1913 in Adelaide. Original picture also attached. Can we identify the
model and would it sell in UK? - We have sent him specifications for
models made during the 1913 so he can measure and investigate. If
anybody in the UK is interested in a car requiring import and a
fundamental rebuild, we will pass on details.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1920 Daimler Charabanc
Photo from Charles Cook, Toronto (Canada)
of his grandmother in an unknown charabanc possibly in London.
She was born in 1869 and died in 1933. Identifying it would add more to
his family history. - In view of the very ornate cast rear wheels, we
are pretty sure this is a cca
1920 Daimler Charabanc but do not recognise the background so
cannot confirm London location. Many charabanc pictures have people
showing, front and radiator is missing,
making identification hard.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1923 BSA 11HP Tourer
Photo received from Peter Robins (UK) found
in his Grandfather's papers. Through the Redditch Advertiser discovered
it was taken at Astwood Bank, and that the buildings are still there. He
thinks it was taken between 1910 to 1920, that the cars is
Humber, and would like to identify people. Great Grandfather died in
1911 and Great Great Grandfather died in 1917. Sorry, cannot be either
of those, - and the car is not a Humber, because it is a cca 1924
BSA Tourer, possibly a TB21S.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1923 Wolseley Tourer
Photo received from Maureen Biri, email address suggesting (Australia),
asking if we could identify the 1920's English car. Photo shows
her grandfather driving his car in the English countryside. It
was taken in 1928 and the baby is her brother. Could this be a Morris
car as grandfather's subsequent cars were that make? Identity would be
appreciated. Morris it is not, but it is a cca
1923 Wolseley Tourer. Morris purchased Wolseley in
1926, after they went badly bust for £2million.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1924 Stoewer D12 Sports
D F Oakley of Godalming (UK)
Submitted this photo for identification to one of our favorite
magazines, The Automobile. The photo was hanging in a west
country hotel bar and nobody knew what it was. A Bentley perhaps? The
car appeared to have UK numberplates. - The small sub-headlamps are
typically Germanic and we advised the magazine that the car was a German
cca
1924 Stoewer D12 Sports.
1991 pictures of the same car have it with wire
wheels. Plates are German/ Polish.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1926 Star Lorry 20'25cwt
Lovely period photo received from Lee
Rhodes (UK) apparently
found on the internet of his great grandfather, but with no other
information. We can advise that this is a
cca 1926 Star 20/25 Lorry manufactured
in Wolverhampton. Confirmed by Star expert John Warburton as a model
that was introduced in 1924 with a 90 x 120mm 4 cyl engine (3054ccs) and
available either with solid tyres or pneumatics. Chassis price was £375
with pneumatics. Overhead worm drive rear axle. None left.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1928 Renault Minibus
Indistinct photo received from
Jeanette Hillman (UK)
of her mother in law Marcelle
Hillman's cousin Ann Marie, - asking for identification. Everything
about the photo makes life very difficult. It is an early 1930s body on
a proprietary chassis. There appears to be no radiator cowl or core, and
the rad seems to slope downwards and out toward the bottom. On limited
evidence available, this is a cca
1929 Renault lorry with a later
body often used as a local taxi / minibus by owner drivers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1928 Talbot 14'45
Couple of photos received from Paul
Wallis, Hornchurch (UK) that were in
the possession of his Aunt. The Gentleman in the forefront could be his
Great Grandfather who lived in Cheltenham. Photo's were probably taken
in the late 20's or early 30's. He would like to know the make of car
and it would be interesting to know if the car still exists. The car is
a cca
1928 Talbot 14'45 Saloon registered at Gloucester County
Council. Search of current DVLA register suggest there
is no trace of this car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
Late 1920s Funeral
Photo received from Warren Carmichael (USA)
asking is we could identify the
model years of the cars in the photos. It would greatly assist in
determining which ancestor was buried at this funeral. The two ancestors
who may have been buried at this funeral died in 1922 and 1935. If any
of the cars were made after 1922, then that would give the answer.
Photos are low resolution but we think one of the cars is a cca
1924-8 Chevrolet with steel
wheels. Therefore the funeral likely 1935.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: 1935
Morris 'Streamline'
Photo received from Claudio Luchina who is a modeler and who has
just just discovered this car. He is looking for more pictures/
specifications (specially measures). We can advise that in 1930 Royal
Mail introduced a fleet of blue Morris Minor vans to advertise the new
Air Mail postal service. One special additional 'Streamline'
van was designed by Maurice Lambert and was fitted to a standard 15cwt
Morris Minor chassis. Also painted blue it was used
generally for publicity shows.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1935 Adler Trumpf Junior Sports
Photo received from Nic Maennling from Ontario (Canada).
Pre-war photo taken in Germany of a car belonged to his cousin's
grandfather. Would be most grateful if it could be identified. This is a
rather nice German sports car, a cca 1935 Adler Trumpf Junior
Sport.
These were front wheel drive cars and part of a large family of Trumpf
models lasting from 1932 to 1941. Trumpf Junior range sold over 100,000
cars.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: 1945
Morris 10 cwt Van
Photo received from Mark Boldry (UK)
who has recently purchased a 1945
Morris 10 cwt van. He is struggling to
find any information about this particular vehicle on the internet. He
came across our website and was espefcially interested in the
article on Ian Moreton's Morris 10cwt Martin-Walter conversion "Utilevan"
. He has asked us to put him in touch with Ian. We believe Ian still has
the van as he recently contacted us with further discovered information,
which is in
the article.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Mystery
Chassis
Series of photos received from Marc Blaise (Spain)
asking if we can help to identify maker of
his chassis.
He has noted different reference numbers on some parts and two letters
"M" at the top and "H" at the bottom of the logo.
The wheels have 5 nuts with a "G" and "D" so
he thinks this could be a French car. Cable brakes and a braced cross
chassis. Regretfully this is a little too specialised for us because
only specific make experts would recognise the make
from a bare chassis.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Mascot
Motor Car Argyle
Photo received from Susie Green (UK) saying
she has a a car mascot, which has an old plaque on it
saying 'Mascot
Motor Car Argyle 1905-10'. Do we know anything about this?
The photo is very interesting, because there are three things that
appear to be quite wrong with the mascot. The Argyll car was spelled
with a double 'll' and no 'e', the dragon faced the other way and the
Argyll Motors Ltd were 1905 to 1909. In view of this, we
regret we cannot add more to the mascot as
photographed.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: cca
1920s Cowey Speedometer
Photo received from Tim Jones (UK) asking
if we can help. He is clearing out his loft and can across an old
Cowey
Speedometer. Can we provide any information on it, and on
what cars it was used on? Cowey
Engineering of Kew, Surrey were proprietary instrument
manufacturers making vehicle speedometers, horns, clocks etc which could
have been used on any vehicle. Coweys were also widely used on
motorcycles and this could be one of
those. Recent auction prices, about £200
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: cca
1936 Dodge
Photo received from William Vaughn of Fairburn, Georgia (USA)
asking if we could tell him please as to
what vehicle and year model this is off of. We here in the UK are
not specialists on US cars but I recognise this as being probably from a
cca 1936 Dodge.
I think it is probably a horn grill. Dodge was Chrysler so same could be
on other makes in the group. A picture of a Dodge with these same gizmos
on, is on our Help Page 7 at: http://www.svvs.org/genpics6/1936_Dodge_4_door_Sedan.jpg.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
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H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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