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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 FN 362cc Four Motorcycle
Another photo from Alex Stevenson (UK) showing Great-Uncle Norman Spencer with an FN, taken in Vine Court Road in Sevenoaks, close to where he lived.  -- Fabrique Nationale de Herstal was Belgian company started in 1889 to make arms and ammunition, and 1901 to 1967 making motorcycles. FN made the world's first four-cylinder motorcycle and was famous for the use of shaft driveon all models. London CC reg. says this one was a cca 1905 FN 362cc Four  Motorcycle. Closed in 1967.

1905 FN 362cc Four Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1905 Photorgapher's Prop Car
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this car photographed in Canada? Unusual Tintype ?
  -- Very indistinct and damaged photo which does not show detail, but we are relatively sure this is a studio shot utilising a  'photographers prop'. This would be a non functioning model made up of c1905 car parts used for photograps only.

c1905 Photorgapher's Prop Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Belgica Landaulette
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Exceedingly unusual car manufactured in Belgium by folding bicycle manufacturer who started cars 1901 and by 1906 was under French influence making the Mathieu.  Not much of car can be seen but this is a cca1906 Belgica.

c1906 Belgica Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Wolseley Siddley Landaulette
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Registration is SM 343, which is Dumfries CC (Scotland). Under the disguise of flowers this is a cca 1907 Wolseley Siddeley Open Drive Landeaulette. 'Entente Cordiale'  was between England and France, 1904 vs. Germany.

1907 Wolseley Siddley Open Drive Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 De Dion Bouton Double Phaeton
Fabulous photo of a magnificent car received from Alec Stevenson (UK) from Great-uncle Norman Spencer. " I do not recognize the driver but I am fairly sure the car is photographed at the end of Vine Court Road, Sevenoaks, near their house, Ashbrook, where the Seven Oaks grew. --Great looking car which is little difficult from side view but we are relatively sure this is a cca 1907 De Dion Bouton 24HP or 30HP Double Phaeton.  No bigger De Dions were ever made and none have survived.

1907 De Dion Bouton Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Sheffield Simplex Torpedo
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Registration is W 1813 which is Sheffield CBC but dating data is lost. W 1110, on a very similar car, is dated 1910. By 1913 they had a different rad so this is cca 1912 Sheffield Simplex with torpedo bodywork, possibly 3 seater?

1912 Sheffield Simplex Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1913 Morgan Grand Prix
Fascinating period photo received from one of our Members Ian MacLennan (UK) who was wondering what it was. Parents regularly attended Brooklands. -- Lovely historical photo which we passed to the Morgan archivist Jake Alderson, who advised that it was one he had not seen before.
A single seater Morgan Grand Prix fitted with JAP 90 bore ohv water cooled engine. Only one he knew like it was raced by W G McMinnies  in 1913. Could be the same car,  at  a later  date.  Read more.

1913Morgan Grand Prix

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably c1912 Ford Model T Touring
Interesting photo received from Philip Clarke (UK) who is trying to date it, so identifying car or year may help. Taken at Youngman's Mill on Wortham Ling, near Diss in Norfolk. May have been taken somewhere between 1910 and 1920. Is this a possibility or not?. -- Lovely historical photo with a couple of five horse loaded drays next to a post mill and granaries. Although not clear, in the foreground is what looks like a cca  1912  Ford  Model T.  Therefore  photo  is likely  to be pre / during WW1. 

1912 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913 NAG K4 Touren Wagen
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is? Could it be a NAG?  --  Yes it is definitely a car made by  Nationale Automobil-Gesellschaft in Berlin, Germany. It has interesting features which make it difficult to name precisely, gas lamps side and scuttle (one broken) etc, but we feel this is a pre-WW1,  middle size vehicle, a  cca  1913 NAG  K4 Touren  Wagen.

1913 NAG K4 Touren Wagen

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914  Minerva Knight Tourer
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Luxury car made in Belgium and grander versions were used by many European Royal Families. CS Rolls was UK agent! Tapered rather than parallel bonnet flutes so is  cca 1914  Minerva Knight Tourer, probably the 26CV.

1914  Minerva Knight Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1918 Crossley 20'25 Military Ambulance
One of a number of high quality interesting photos sent to us by Mike Mackrill (UK) who has a collection of old glass negatives relating to early days of aviation and who has a website devoted to this subject called Nostalgic Picture Library.
 Can we help out with the cars? -- Registration is MC 595 which is Middlesex County Council c1918. The vehicle is a cca 1918 Crossley 20'25 Military Ambulance known to the War Office as Type J, produced by  Crossley Motors, Manchester. 6,000 Js were made. 

1918 Crossley 20'25 Military Ambulance

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Studebaker & 1914 Lancia
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this car photographed in Argentina ?
  -- Interesting mix of cars. The front one is American and has a number 6 on the radiator made after WW1, so a cca 1919 Studebaker Big Six Touring. The second car is Italian, made in Turin before WW1 being a cca 1914 Lancia Theta 35HP Torpedo.

1919 Studebaker & 1914 Lancia

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what this is? Could it be a Rolls  Royce --  Another interesting piece of detective work by our experts. The car is big and luxurious and indeed looks like a Rolls Royce, but which one? Via Rolls experts Tom Clark, and Andre Blaize from France, advised c1920 Rolls Royce  Silver Ghost rebodied by  Labourdette Paris  in 1930.  More!

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921 AGA Single Door Phaeton
Interesting period photo received from Lars Magnuson (Sweden) who is trying to identify the car. Photo was taken around 1928 and shows his father, his sisters and parents; "The Magnuson family" . -- Lovely photo taken in Sweden of a German car that was at the time being made in Sweden under licence. This is a German cca 1921 AGA Single Door Phaeton, either the 6'16 or the 6'20. The main difference between AGA and the Thulin  was that the AGA cars had the very angular mudguards. 

1921 AGA Single Door Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Studebaker Big Six Touring
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this car photographed in Argentina ?
  -- Big Country indeed, imposing view. Car is American. Couple of distinct identification features, headlamp has a square front and the rear lamp similar shape. From disc type wheels our Mark Dawber dates it a cca 1922 Studebaker Big Six Touring.

1922 Studebaker Big Six Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:LATEST 1922 Belsize Bradshaw 9 HP
Another car from a batch of photos received from Philip Degen (UK) who has seen a reference to us in the Essex Family Historian. Wife has inherited an album which does not appear to be family and they are trying to trace who they were. -- Very fuzzy small pictures. Original thoughts were that it was a cca 1921 Calthorpe but our Tim Harding recently advised, because he has one, that it is a 1922/3 Belsize Bradshaw 9 HP  with the  unusual body, but which was  a factory option. 

1921 Calthorpe Minor Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Ford Model T Touring
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this car photographed in Argentina ?
  -- Another column of Fords. On each in large letters on the lower windscreen seems to be written ESTA???. Not possible to make out the other letters; perhaps Estados. The cars seem mostly  cca 1923 Ford  Model T  Touring, probably made in Buenos Aires.

1923 Ford Model T Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Ford Model A
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film " Black Rose of Harlem " made in 1996 where the cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film is about a young black girl jazz singer in 1920s Harlem who catches the eye of a mobster who is already married to the mob boss's daugher. --  Not a lot of the car is visible for a positive identification but, other than it possibly being a cca 1926 Ajax, the widow's peak shape of the radiator top suggests  this is a  cca 1931 Ford Model A, body on fire.

1931 Ford Model A

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931 Riley Nine Monaco Saloon
Interesting photo received from Steve Boyce (UK)  being investigated by his friend John Fagan who is researching his family history. He would love to know more about the car and also hopes to identify the location. -- Cannot help on the location nor exact dating as no reg number visible. We can however identify the car from the 'diamond' shape of bonnet louvres; and from the lack of vent flap on the scuttle can limit that this is 1929 to 1932,  so is a  cca 1931 Riley  Nine Monaco  Four-Seat  Saloon.

1931 Riley Nine Monaco Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Steyr 630 Limousine
Cinema screen grab from a film "Schachnovelle" (Brainwashed) made in Germany 1960 where the cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film is about 1938 Nazi Austria where an intellectual art smuggler is imprisoned by the Gestapo and subjected to mind games. --  Quite a clear Austro Daimler type logo on the boot of a sizeable but car is not Austro Daimler. This is a cca 1937 Steyr 630 Limousine. Austro Daimler initially bailed Steyer out,  and eventually took them over fully in 1935. 

1937 Steyr 630 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1955 Bedford & 1960 Ford Trucks
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this car photographed in Argentina ?
  -- Little bit difficult to make out much on either trucks but we think the one on the left is a British cca 1955 Bedford A 5, and the one on the right is an American cca 1960 Ford F 500 trucks.  Both seem to be  cattle transporters,  so hope animals  OK?

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1955 MG Magnette ZA Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from British thriller ' The Mind Benders ' made in 1963 where the cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film is about a scientist who undergoes sensory deprivation to prove that this can make one unusually susceptible to brainwashing. --  BMC saloons like MG, Wolseley and Rileys of the mid 1950 shared body-shells and are a little difficult to tell apart. Short chrome trim on the door and circular holes in the wheels say this should be cca 1955 MG Magnette ZA saloon.

1955 MG Magnette ZA Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1955 Bedford A5 Tractor Unit
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this truck photoed in Argentina ?
Possibly a Bedford but which model? -- Not easy to make very much out of how the lorry may have looked but study of the front side-light pattern, wheel, and that the step is below the door and behind the wheel, suggests this is a cca  1955  Bedford  A5.

1955 Bedford A5 Tractor Unit

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified Pre-WW1 Tourer
Lovely but damaged photo received from
António Almeida Porto (Portugal) which he is repairing as a present for Mother-in-Law. It is the only photo she has of her grand-mother and of other members of the family Guerra. Probably taken in mid 20's and in the north of Portugal. He became curious about the car when he was trying to repair the front wheel. --The car has beaten all our experts in the UK and worldwide. It looks American but has lots of European features.  Any ideas welcome?

Unidentified Pre-WW1 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified Third Reich Limousine
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this car photographed in Germany ?
--The photo is quite small and has little contrast so it is not possible to see into the picture and pull out any clear identification features as to make. Many of the luxury Geman cars of the period  had similar bodies.  Any help would be  much appreciated.

Unidentified Third Reich Limousine
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