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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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DENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Renault Type M 8CV Taxi
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. -- This
seems a public postcard of what looks to
be an early Paris taxi with Marthe Regnier as passenger. Marthe Regnier
was a French Film actress and singer of the 'roaring twenties' known
for 'Mayerling' and having lover Rothschild build her the Pigalle
Theatre. The vehicle is a rather nice cca
1903 Renault Type M 8CV Taxi with interesting
studded rear tyre over-gaiter
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904
Speedwell 6HP Dogcart
My wife (UK)
was having a rummage through some boxes of old family photos and came across
this one. Although all keen motorists, these do not seem 'family'
but seem to have been taken at a country show which included a horse
box and a mid-1960s Jaguar. -- This
car has a very early cca 1903
Coventry CBC registration which is still in use on the car. Date as
made and first registered stated confusingly as '1921'. Car is a cca
1904 Speedwell 6HP Dogcart, made in
Berkshire, England.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
C.G.V. 25HP Limousine
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. -- This
seems a public postcard of what looks to
be a French car apparently in London featuring Gabrielle Rejane with
son, a famous French theatre actress known internationally, especially
in London at Royalty Theatre. Married to director of the Vaudeville and
on divorce built her own Theatre Rejane in Paris. Our Ariejan Bos
advises car is cca
1906 C.G.V. 25HP Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Argyll 14'16 Tourer
More info from Stephen McCann
confirming 'Argyll'
from same Rachel Bloom (UK)
photo below, in the
Hardy & Goodman book advising owner as Bertie Gill of Borstal,
Kent. Borstal (‘fort site’) village is now part of Rochester, east
of London on the Thames estuary, mentioned in the Doomsday Book 1086.
Fort built 1859 by convict labour and Borstal Prison 1870. 1902 became
experimental juvenile detention centre from which came universal
term ‘borstal’ for reformatory youth correction.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
c1907 Argyll 14'16 Tourer
Very small grainy c1908 photo received
from Rachel Bloom (UK)
and first shown on on HP 169, which we were not able to identify due to
low resolution and poor quality of the picture. Forward
slanting louvres? --
However, since publication we have been contacted separately by two of
our readers, Varun Coutinho and Stephen McCann, booth who think it is
an Argyll from Scotland. If c1908, then from size of bonnet, it would
probably be the bigger cca
1907 Argyll 14'16 Tourer. See update
above .
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Jackson No8 9'11 Roadster
My wife (UK)
was having a rummage through some boxes of old family photos and came
across this one. These do not seem 'family'
but seem to have been taken at a country show which included a horse
box and a 60s Jaguar. -- Advised
this car is currently owned by the chap who runs PreWarCar website in
Holland. Strange photo reg NO (1920 Essex reversed)? The car is a
British made cca1909
Jackson No 8 Roadster, on their ads
was 9'11 De Dion single. In 1959 UK, was A358 London 1904?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 De Dion Bouton Two seater
My wife (UK)
was having a rummage through some boxes of old family photos and came across
this one. Although all keen motorists, these do not seem 'family'
but seem to have been taken at a country show which included a horse
box and a 1960s Jaguar. -- This
car has a puzzling low 1920 London CC registration, no longer in use
but car may well be!. The smallish radiator identifies it as a
cca 1910 De Dion Bouton Two seater and louvres suggest a cca 14HP Model,
so small but quick!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Corre La Licorne 12HP
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. Seems photo was taken in France. -- This
has a 'continental' look about it but not De Dion or Minerva. Seems
smallish car. Ariejan Bos advised '..easy one, Collomb on a Corre La
Licorne 12hp during the 1912 Tour de France." Albert Colomb was a
Grand Prix driver for Corre and also took part in 1923-26 Le Mans Races
Grand Prix d'Endurance, without a great deal of success.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Delahaye Type32 Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. Photo taken at fiesta in Rio de Janeiro,
Brasil. -- Car
looks French and squareish logo on radiator helps. This is a pre WW1
French cca
1914 Delahaye Type32 Tourer. Company
founded by Émile Delahaye in 1894, in Tours, France, making belt
driven cars, but he died1905. Delahaye company patented twin cam
multi-valve engine and the introduction and development of the V6
format.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Belsize 15.9 Tourer
Couple more lovely photos received from
Michael Streuli (UK) advising
he thinks FL715 was Peterborough, and that driver, his
grandfather, lived there from 1914-15. He died in 1925.
-- Reg is indeed 'Soke
of Peterborough CBC' issued late 1914. 'Soke' is a medieval term for a
historic area of the diocese, also a 'Liberty' or 'Nassaburgh hundred'
including 30 parishes. The car is also interesting, being bigger
British cca
1914 Belsize 15.9 Tourer, made at
Belsize Woks, Manchester.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer
Lovely detailed photo received from
John Steed (UK)
asking id we are able to identify the fine looking vehicle
in the attached photographs. The driver is his Grandfather, George
Edward Steed. He lived in Cheam, Surrey and I believe this photograph
was taken in the mid 1920s. -- Embarrassed
to say our Ariejan Bos had to tell me to check out Sunbeam? And indeed
it was a
cca 1914 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer. High
quality model, copious bodywork, made in Wolverhampton 1912-1914.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Autocrat 10'12 Two-Seater
Very puzzling photo received from
Phil Crane (USA)
who has been struggling to identify the attached with two sets of 4 louvers. --
Our local experts continued with the
search and equally got nowhere so asked our Dutch veterans expert
Ariejan Bos who had purchased a scrapbook with cut-out cars in it, and
advised it was a quite unusual quality British
cca 1920 Autocrat 10'12 made in
Birmingham probably using Dorman 1600 engine. Lasted 1913-1926, taken
over by Calthorpe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Jowett Seven Saloon
A then-and-now Photo received from
Neil Jones (UK),
a guide and collector of locel postcards, advising
not sure if the photo is clear enough of village he lives in, North
Baddesley, near Southampton. -- Very
difficult to make out because of the tiny size of the car and hand
painting hides all details, apart from the vertical line coming from
centre bottom of the narrow radiator upwards; high starting handle, and
small low headlights. This suggests cca
1925 Jowett Seven Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Morris Cowley Tourer
Couple more lovely photos received from
Michael Streuli (UK) advising
His Grandfather lived in Peterboro and later in Manchester. He died in
1925. Picture taken in Manchester in August 1926; the
small boy is his father, aged 10. -- No
reg to help in dating. Our Chas Moody advises that from a number of
details oncluding Shell Petrol Can, this is a cca
1926 Morris Cowley 'Bullnose' Tourer
built in Cowley Oxford 1915-1920. Name 'Bullnose' came from having a
rounded radiator like a bullet nose.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Buick Standard Six Sedan
Puzzling photo sent to the Rootschat Forum by a
(USA) enquirer asking if anybody can help identify the year,
make and model of the vehicle shown in this family photo.
-- This is a cca
1926 Buick Standard Six. Dating from
the registration plate Michigan 26. Buick from drum headlamps with
decorated front headlamp rim and down pointed centre to radiator top.
Front wheels appear to have multiple wheelnuts so is a Standard Six
rather than a Master Six, model is 27 from having 4 doors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1927 Studebaker Commander Sedan
Interesting photo received from Charles
Dagenais
(France)
asking if we are
able to identify vintage picture taken in circa 1934, in Montreal, Canada of a
car that once belonged to uncle Rodrigue. This one is his personal car,
possibly an Auburn? -- Our
Mark Dawber advises that it is not an Auburn but 'second series' mid
range and mid price six cylinder, disc wheel, all-steel bodied cca
1927 Studebaker Commander Six Sedan
made by the ex- horse wagon makers from South Bend, Indianna, USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Ford Model A Pick-up
Interesting photo received from Charles
Dagenais
(France)
asking if we are
able to identify the vintage picture taken in circa 1934, in Montreal, Canada
of a car that once belonged to uncle Rodrigue. This one is milk
delivery truck probably acquired in 1929 as his vehicle as milkman. -- Our
Mark Dawber notes the distinctive wheels that nobody else used,
probably the 21" size, which were fitted to the earlier cca
1928'9 Ford Model A Pickup, which
seems to fit in with the info supplied.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
c1928 FIAT 519 Torpedo
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. Registration plate is New Zealand mid
1956 and 1961 and slide found its way to someone in UK who wondered if
a NZ photo - which the plate confirms. Nothing known about identity of
the car. --
This looks quite a big car and our best guess is
that it could well be the Italian cca
1925 FIAT 519 Coachbuilt Torpedo, or
even grander Superfiat 520 de-luxe six. Perhaps local body?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Perhaps
c1929 Stamdard 9 Tourer
Very small grainy c1908 photo received
from Andrew Barton (UK) which
is an enlargement from a section of a bigger photo believed
taken in 1930s and showing a car on a rural road in Gloucestershire.
Reg seems BK505?? -- If
so, Portsmouth. Difficult to make out detail beyond horisontal louvres,
quite common. Couple of suggestions, a Standard, so probably a cca
1929 Standard Nine Tourer. Split
screen, wide rad, small lights. No obvious hump to bonnet, bit
puzzling as unclear photo?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930
FIAT 521 Saloon
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. Title is mystery Germans from the
numberplates. -- One
of two photographs which actually show Italian origin cars. This one
has a very impressive stoneguard which did make identification quite
difficult but established it was a cca
1930 Fiat 521 Saloon. Interestingly,
these were also mage in Germany at FIAT-NSU plant in
Heilbronn from 1930. About 33,000 produced 1928-1931.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931
Jowett Black Price Seven
Puzzling photo sent to the Rootschat Forum by a
(UK) enquirer asking if anybody can help identify the year, make
and model of the vehicle shown in this family photo. -- This
is a cca
1931 Jowett Long Seven, the unusual
Black Price model. It had a 907cc side valve flat twin engine.
Registration could be NG121 which would be Norfolk mid-1931. In 1930
all production halted due a major fire at the factory and this model
was subsequently advertised as "Back home again" 1931 model,
at £142,
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1936
FIAT Ardita Torpedo
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) from a forum posting asking
for identification. Title is mystery Germans from
numberplates? -- This
is one of two photographs which actually show Italian origin cars. This
one looks a
cca 1936 FIAT Ardita Torpedo, an
impressive cabriolet which seems to have coachbuilt bodywork on the
long chassis. The Ardita is a follow-on to the Fiat 514, being the 518,
with either 1.7 or 2.L. Also made in France by Simca Fiat and
Poland.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939
Triumph 350 3SE
Motorcycle
Puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) questioning London 1968
registration as advised on another website? -- Our
Tony Oakes advised PMP registrations date from 1939 and were used by
the War Department. Further research advises used by WReNS Women
Motorcycle Dispatch Riders, re-formed in 1939 by Admiralty and Royal
Navy from women with motorcycle experience; from local race circuits!
Our Chas Moody says this is a cca 1939 Triumph 3SE 350cc Motorcycle.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1948
Playboy Model A48 Convertible
Fascinating tread noted on the AACA
Forum in Identification of this car which advises that this is a cca
1948 Playboy Model A48. --
Built in
Buffalo new York by Louis Horowitz' Playboy Motors (Heffner advised
post closing to use name.) 94 'prototypes' were built for
demonstrating to dealers and were well received. None sold to public.
Unfortunately legal problems forced bankruptcy 1949, sold to
Lytermobile NY, also failed. Very few remain, as retractable hardtop,
convertible and estate.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
1920 Charabanc
Puzzling small photo received from
our Sunbeams expert Bruce Dowell (UK)
asking if we identify this Charabanc. --
We have enhanced and enlarged photo but
the important radiator remains blurry. Logo is oval. Registration T
893# is a Devon CC of 1920, (TA starting '21). 'Pride of the Moor'
seems to be AC Bulkpin & Son, Motor Engineers in the Newton Abbott.
Our best guess is a cca 1921 Dennis Charabanc but not positive ID.
Perhaps some of our bus expert readers could provide
some help?!
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