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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1903
Accident in Dublin
Interesting enquiry received from Mike
Statham (UK) for
whom we have provided much help in
identifying cars owned by the Insole family. They are planning a
booklet on Insole
cars. The first person known to have owned a car was Richard
Grainger O'Callaghan. It was mentioned in the press that he ran over
and killed a boy in Dublin in 1903. He got 3 months for manslaughter.
Further details in the Motoring Annual of 1903; do we have access?
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Found press cutting but no access. HELP
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
De Dietrich 24hp Tonneau
Another of a number of interesting period
photos sent by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
of a car parked outside Castle Grove, Headingley Leeds,
he would appreciate identified.
A posh residence owned by John Kirk with chauffeur Harry Hutchinson.
Plate
was U6? -- U-6
was a 1902 Belsize 12HP owned by E. Hepper of Heddingley but not
of Castle Grove. Photo could be Castle Grove but the car is a French
cca 1903 De Dietrich 24hp Tonneau designed by Ettore Bugatti, who also
designed types 3'4'5'6'7.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Stanley Steamer Model C
Lovely photo received from Karen McClure
(USA) of a car being driven by her
grandfather Ellis Robertson taken in 1955 at Stanley
Steamer event Lakeville, Connecticut.
Her mother's grandfather, George Bryant Robertson of Keene, NH, was
agent for Stanley Steamers in 1904. In 1908 he went to the Philippines
as Superintendent of Automobile Service for the Philippines and to help
develop/offer transportation via Stanley Steamers from Manila to Baguio
(See
our major ZigZag article).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904
Wolseley 6HP Light Two-seater
56 emails received from Chris Thomas
(UK) so
superkeen or email got stuck on Send. Could we identify photo of great
grandfather Richard James Harden in front of his house which is close
to the village of Clare in Northern Ireland. He died in 1918 so it is
obviously before that. -- No
registration visible so photo is possibly pre registrations, so 1904.
Car is the Birmingham built
cca 1904 Wolseley 6HP Light Two-seater
while Herbert Austin still at Wolseley. Soon after became
Wolseley Siddley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Deasy 24HP Tourer
Interesting period photo
sent in to the Rootschat Forum
(UK) some
time ago asking
for dating and identification. No
identification has been made so far. -- We
occasionally come across these unidentified photos while investigating
other enquiries, and keep for later identification. Registration seems
DU 2356 which is Coventry CBC but no dating info. Polished wheel hubs,
transverse front spring , and scalloped bonnet and rad, all suggest
cca 1907 Deasy 24HP Tourer. Pre
Siddeley-Deasy 1912.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Wolseley Siddeley Limousine
While researching we chanced on previously helped EdinPhoto website where a
1907 photo headed 'First Motorised Ambulance' was posted by Ross (UK).
What is the make? -- Lovely
limousine-like vehicle built by the Vickers 'Wolseley' organization
which had just parted with Herbert Austin. Vickers appointed JD
Siddeley as GM so name of car changed in 1906 to Wolseley Siddeley.
This is quite a large vehicle with three side windows so probably cca
1907 Wolseley Siddeley Limousine, poss
40HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Chenard Walcker Landaulette
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicles posted on New Zealand Facebook page. What is the make, model
and year. --
Distinctive circular radiator with large indentations is a feature of
the French Paris based manufacturer Chenard-Walcker who were the first
ever winner of the Le Mans 24 hour in 1923. This one has the handwheel
on the side fitted to many Taxis for Paris which suggest this could be
a cca
1907 Chenard Walcker 14HP Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Renault 14 CV Limousine
While researching we chanced on previously helped EdinPhoto website where a photo entitled 1909
Delaunay Belleville had been posted by Bill Hall (UK).
-- Sorry
car depicted is not a Delaunay Belleville, but a Renault. Both
are French manufacture but differ considerably. Delaunay Belleville
is distinctive having cylindrical bonnet and forward circular radiator,
the Renault has an alligator bonnet and radiator adjacent to the windscreen. Photo is
cca
1907 Renault 14 CV Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907
Rainier Racer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicles on two photos sent to him by Tim Martin from USA saying - any
ideas on this car? --
We have had one of these recently but
my cross-reference system failed, so our Ariejan Bos kindly reminded me
both are Reinier; this is a (rare) racer cca 1907 with its slightly
oval radiator and short filler tube.
Rainier has a modest racing
history in 1908 Long Island Motor Parkway and 1909'10 Brighton Beach 24
hour .
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1909
Zedel Landaulette Taxi
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicles posted on New Zealand Facebook page as first taxi in 1910
Wanganui. What is the make, model and year. --
Another with a 'circular' radiator header with a small bump on the top.
This is a feature of the originally Swiss, later French, manufacturer
on the Swiss border Zürcher & Lüthi, later 'Zedel'. It is known
that a cca
1909 Zedel Taxi, no 90, was operating
in 1910 Wellington driven by one Geoge Fernandos.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Rainier
Model F Touring
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicles on two photos sent to him by Tim Martin from USA saying - any
ideas on this car? --
We have had one of these recently but
my cross-reference system failed, so our Ariejan Bos kindly reminded me
both are Rainier. This photo is evenly rarer than the previous Rainier as
it may show one of the last cars built by Rainier. It is a
1911 Model F
Regulation or Special Touring, only model with this type of mudguard.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911
Renault CC Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo of a group of people and a car from the Auckland War
Memorial Museum collection. Renault built many models at that time.
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many models and difficult to tell apart. This is a medium sized car
with wavy longish scuttle, no petrol filler, gas lighting, and has
rounded profiles to radiator. This suggests a cca
1911 Renault CC Tourer, which was a 14
CV model with a four cylinder 3560cc engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Delaunay Belleville HB Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo sent to him by Tim Martin from USA saying - any
ideas on this car? -- Large
car with a cylindrical bonnet with a circular radiator is normally indicative
of the prestigious French manufacturer Delaunay Belleville; - the car
of the Tsar. This one has a longish bonnet with a wrap-round scuttle
fuel tank so is either a cca
1912 Delaunay Belleville HB4 or HB6 Tourer,
the difference is number of cylinders & cc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Hupp Yeats Regent Roadster
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo sent to him by Tim Martin from USA saying - any
ideas on this car? -- We
had identified this as a cca
1912 Hupp Yeats Regent Torpedo Roadster
at about the same time that he advised ID as Hupp Yeats. This is an
electric car made in Detroit by Robert Hupp previously of Hupp Motors
and subsequently RCH. About 1000 cars made to 1914. 70-90 miles per
charge, 17-20 mph and cost USD 1,650.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912
Lacre Charabanc
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the
vehicle on a photo from the Kennedy bus and car fleet. Looks 1920s
English maybe? Could it be one of their Lacres? -- In
my system I have a 1912 picture of an identical looking Manchester
registered 'Lacre' on solid tyres and chain drive, and couple of OZ
photos showing
cca 1912 Lacre busses with an oval
badge, and have the drag link in front of the axle. Later vehicles
had large lettered Lacre logo. Chain drive to 1922.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Singer 10 HP Two-Seater
Interesting period photo
sent in to us by
Glenda Richardson (UK)
which she had shown to her elderly neighbour and after
spending some time on the interet, he wonders if it is a 1914
Humberette. It does have a 'mascot', but I do not know if this is
original to the car. -- Good
try but regret not a Humberette. No registration visible to help with
accurate dating but from the humpy radiator and steepish slope of the
scuttle, and electrics, this is a cca
1913 Singer 10 HP Two-Seater, 1096cc
four.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1914
Darracq 16CV Tourer
Interesting period photo
sent in to the Rootschat Forum
(UK) some
time ago asking
for dating and identification. No
identification made so far. -- We
occasionally come across these types of photos while investigating
other enquiries, and keep for later identification. No registration is
visible to help in dating but we are relatively sure this is a cca 1914
Darracq 16CV Tourer. Made by the Paris end of the UK Darracq Co which
was then under the management of Owen Clegg (ex Rover 12).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916 Ford Model T
Touring
Another interesting photo received from Mike Sanders
(USA) of a car we confirmed as a 1916 Ford Model T - outside of Lewistown, Montana.
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On Help Page 138 we confirmed it is a
cca 1916 Model T Ford with angular
rather then new rounded bonnet. What is interesting from this photo is
Granny's fur, and that car is fitted with chains on rear wheel and,
visible through front wheel, is fitted with accessory Hassler
Spring Shock Absorbers (Rebound Check). Obviously very determined
drivers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
1922 Rob Roy Model K1
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify
the mystery British (?) light car shared on a Facebook
page from Auckland. Any ideas? --
Difficult one which has a Wolseley type rad but with a rectangular
badge and smallish body, and a forward mounted tubular front axle.
Registration is Scotland so John Warburton thinks this is a cca 1922
Rob Roy 8'10HP twin-cylinder Model K1 Tourer made in Glasgow by
Kennedy, sharing engine with 1921 Kingsbury, London.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Delage DI Limousine
Quite a grainy photo received from
Dean McCarthy of Dublin
(Eire) hoping we will be able to
identify photo of his Great Grandfather's car which he believes
is a Delage. If so, can we advise model and year. --
We have enhanced the photo and can advise that from the exposed rivets
of the bonnet hinge this is indeed a Delage. Radiator top is unclear
bur the squarish shape of the bonnet and the angular shape of the rear
top of the roof, this would be a cca
1924 Delage DI Limousine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Morris Commercial T type Chassis
56 emails received from Chris Thomas
(UK) so
either superkeen or email got stuck on Send. Could we identify photo of
a tractor on great grandfather Richard James Harden's
estate in Clare in Northern Ireland. He died in 1918. -- So
after after his death. This is not a 'tractor' but a lorry
chassis converted to agricultural use, hence chains on rear car wheels
and two side-by-side seats. LHD? Low headlamps so a cca
1925 Morris Commercial T type 1 ton
van chassis, possibly slightly shortened.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Auburn 6-66 Brougham
Very poor photo received from George Nuse
(USA) hoping we will be able to
identify this car that belonged to his grandfather in probably the very
late 20's or very early 30's in the U.S. Note distinctive ridge running
over the hood, louvers and "wind wing" next to the
windshield. --
We have considerably enhanced the photo and can advise this is indeed
an American car manufactured in Auburn Indiana by successors to Eckhart
taken over by Cord. This is cca 1926 Auburn 6-66 Brougham.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1928
MG 14'28 Sports 4 Seater
Lovely photo
sent in to us by Roy Jones, Rousdon (UK)
of a car he would appreciate identified. It was owned by
his brother-in-law William Allsworth in Folkestone and was sold in
about 1964. He is writing family history so would be interested to know
what it was. -- A
Morris by any other name, - a MG ! This is cca
1927 MG 14'28 Sports. Second of the
famous line of MGs made by Morris Garages, who started modifying
Morrises having tuned engines and different bodies. First MG was 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1939 Morgan Super Sports
We have an interesting photo received from
Marc Heindrijckx (Belgium)
who had bought some old slides on E-bay, including
slide of a Morgan 3 wheeler, poss taken in Brighton at London To
Brighton in the 70's. Doing some research he came across our website
where this same Morgan is shown as owned by one of our members. Was it
his then already? --
Yes our member has been owner of this
car, a 1939
Morgan Super Sports 990cc Matchless
since 1961, so it had been him driving.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1949
Mercedes Benz 170 V Saloon
Another interesting photo sent to us by Andrew Kostin from
Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old
photos. Can we identify this car with Soviet driver in 1950-1951 while
working in the Soviet Military Hospital in Beelitz (German Democratic
Republic)? --
The car is German, has a missing emblem on the bonnet top and has a
non-standard badge bar holding a spot lamp. Split bumper so pre 1952
upgrade. Not enough car to see details/doors, but this is cca 1949
Mercedes Benz 170 V Saloon.
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