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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION/DATING:  SVVS HELP PAGES have some 3,700 Enquiries Received & Identified

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906 Martini 20'24 Camionette
Puzzling photo from Jussa Nieminen (Finland) of the "first police car in Finland", supposed year 1900, possibly a Martini. It should however been a rental car by Helsinki Police September 1906. --  Not very much of the car is visible but from levers and quadrant, back of bonnet, hub cap, and as it is  chain drive, two of our experts agree this could be a cca 1906 Martini 20'24 Camionette, Swiss made by Adolf von Martini 1897-1934. 1906 Martini Auto Co was UK owned, London Agent Deasy.

1907 Martini 20'24 Camionette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908 Franklin Model G Touring
Lovely photo received from from Tom Roberts, Virginia (USA) of his grandfather at the wheel and great-grandfather in the passenger seat, probably taken on Long Island; Jamaica-Queens, Brooklyn, New York City area.  --  The numberplate is definitely New York and the car is American made in Syracuse, New York. The round radiator and the air cooled engine advise it is a Franklin. Round rads were c1906 to c1910. Car is mid range so is likely to be a  cca 1908 Franklin Model G Touring.

1908 Franklin Model G Touring.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Pilain 4S Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a Swedish film 'Du är inte klok, Madicken' (You're Out of Your Mind, Maggie) made in 1979,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.  Life of a young Swedish girl in Sweden, during World War 1.   --  Interesting vehicle  for Sweden because it was French, made in Lyon, by a company started in 1901 called Société François Pilain. This is a cca 1911 Pilain 4S Tourer. Later became 'SLIM'. Brother had car commpany in Tours caller Rolland Pilain

1911 Pilain 4S Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 Douglas 349cc Flat Twin
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  --  Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody thinks bike was few years old, lady owner, who knew what she was doing. Damaged front mudguard had front part sawn off with the number plate repositioned to suit. Note the 'run flat' tyres! It is a British Bristol made cca 1912 Douglas 349cc flat twin,  2.75HP.  Made famous T T racers, and also later made a cyclecar. 

912 Douglas 349cc Flat Twin Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1913 Rover TT Model 499cc Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.  --  Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises  a cca 1913 Rover TT Model 499cc side valve single cylinder fixed engine type with no gearbox or pedalling gear. Note oil pump 'bulge' on side of the petrol tank and the steeply inclined magneto drive chain case. Note the lower front fork links pass inside the fork blades. A high quality machine, now very rare. 

1913 Rover TT Model 499cc Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Clyno 750cc 'V' twin Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  --Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises this is a Wolvehampton built cca 1913 Clyno 750cc 'V' twin. This one does not have a rear chain guard (which could have been removed) and the visible clamps on the front down tube are probably for fitting a sidecar. The 'C' of Clyno can be seen at back of tank in front of ignition advance and retard lever.

913 Clyno 750cc 'V' twin Motorcycle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Clyno 750cc Standard Sidcar
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking identification.
 -- Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises this is a Wolvehampton built cca 1914  Clyno Standard Sidecar Outfit with V-twin side-valve engine designated 750cc  and 3-speed hand-change gearbox with chain primary & final drive, advanced for this era when the majority of makes were using belt final drive. Note the deeply valenced front mudguard.

1914 Clyno 750cc Standard Sidcar Outfit

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Napier 30'35 Landaulette
Another lovely photo received from
David Oborn (UK) of another of Grandfather's cars, this one LY 6223 thought to be a Napier used for Private Hire circa 1926.' You had already identified the Sunbeam 12/16 (HP118).  --  Napier adopted a one-model policy post WW1 but this must have been a pre-WW1 vehicle registered later. This would seem to be a cca 1914 Napier 30'35 Open Drive Landaulette. These were very expensive cars on par with Rolls Royce.  Last Napier car was sold 1924.

1914 Napier 30'35 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Perry 11.9 Two-Seater
Puzzling enquiry received from
Richard Hall (UK) researching history of local road transport and has regn of local car, BD3640, described as an 11.9HP 2 seater Terry car. Could find no mention of such maker. --  No mainstream cars called Terry. BD3640 is a Northampton County Council Registration of 1918, However there was a British car "Perry"  made by the Perry Motor Company based in Tyseley, Birmingham which had introduced 11.9 in 1914. Sold rights to Harpers 1919 and became Bean.

C1914 Perry 11.9HP Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920s Photographers Prop Car
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified. --  This one may well have fooled people in the past because it very much resembles a cca 1920 De Dion Bouton Tourer, but it is obviously a Photographer's Prop. This is a very detailed facsimile very well observed and expertly drawn/painted in period. Would almost have been easier to get a real car. RHD so possibly UK? 

1920s Photographers Prop Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920 Isotta Fraschini Tippo 8 Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a German silent film 'Der Geiger von Florenz' (The Fiddler od Florence) made in 1926,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.  --  Twin sets of headlamps suggest Teutonic or Italian cars. This one was made in Milan by an Italian manufacturer of exotic luxury cars supplied in chassis form only and bodied by all major coachbuilders. Had a single model policy after WW1 so can be relatively certain  is cca 1920 Isotta Fraschini Tippo 8 Tourer.

1920 Isotta Fraschini Tippo 8 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Citroen 5 and 10CV Chassis
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
s posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for ihelp in dentification. CL Nielsen Garage in town of Dannevierke (Work of the Danes) on north island of New Zealand.
--  There seems to be three batches of multiple car chassis on the left of the photo which are far too indistinct to be identiable. Next is a row of similar cars at the end of the row which are Citroen which our Michel Gosset advises are 5CV & 10CV.

1921 Citroen 5 and 10CV Chassis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Angus Sanderson 14HP Chassis
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
s posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for help in identification. CL Nielsen Garage in town of Dannevierke (Work of the Danes) on north island of New Zealand,
--  Very unusual British car assembled in Hendon (London) by coachbuilding company from propriatory parts such as 2.3L engine from Tyler and geabox from Wrigley; a cca 1921 Angus Sanderson 14HP Chassis to be bodied locally.

1921 Angus Sanderson 14HP Chassis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Hillman 11HP Two-Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
s posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for help in identification. CL Nielsen Garage in town of Dannevierke (Work of the Danes) on north island of New Zealand,
--  Despite claims on garage to American cars, this is another British car, one which was built in Coventry by makers of Kangaroo bicycle. This is cca 1921 Hillman 11HP Two-Seater. Hillman became Roots, became Chrysler then was Peugeot.

1921 Hillman 11HP Two-Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921 Cadillac Type 59 Touring
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film "Flying Luck"  made in 1927,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. --  Henry Ford worked for Edison 1891but was developing a car in spare time. Left to form own Detroit Auto Co 1899 which was disolved 1901. Henry Ford Co was formed 1901 but ford did not get on with Henry Leland and left. Leland renamed the Henry Ford Co into Cadillac Auto Co. This car has a relatively slim frontal view so seems cca 1921 Cadillac Type 59 Touring.

1921 Cadillac Type 59 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:  1921 BSA Model 'K' 557cc Combination
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle posted on
a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  --  Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises this is a cca 1921 BSA Model 'K' 557cc, 4 1/4 HP single cylinder sidevalve motorcycle and sidecar. Well known photo showing District Nurse Elizabeth McPhee in 1926 with famous Eilean Donan Castle on Loch Aish, close to the Isle of Skye,  Scottish Highlands.  Seems photo was used in recruiting nurses.

1921 BSA Model 'K' 557cc Combination

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Rover 8HP Two-seater
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA website (USA) by Newbie asking if anybody can identify this late 1920s, or, likely, very early 1930s car. -- 
British car made in Coventry England with horizontally opposed twin engine across the chassis and with bonnet with large air scoop each side for drawing in cooling air directly onto the cylinders. The radiator was a dummy! This is an air cooled  cca 1923 Rover 8HP, normally a Two-seater and Dickey. This range was post WW1 built 1919 until 1925.

1923 Rover 8HP Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Lincoln Model L Roadster
Cinema screen grab taken from an American film "Flying Luck"  made in 1927,  and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. --  Competitor to Cadillac which had been Henry Ford Co. before Ford was ousted by Henry Leland 1902. Car was made in Dearborn Michigan by company founded by Henry Leland but then purchased by Ford on bankruptcy in 1922. From the unusual headlights this is probably the cca 1925 Lincoln Model L, body seems to be a Convertible Coupe probably by Le Baron. 

1925 Lincoln Model L Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Steyr Typ VII Tourenwagen
Lovely photo received from Evert Moes of North Saanich on Vancouver Island (Canada) of late grandmother's Steyr automobile. Possibly Mark VII tourer, but year not clear. Mention that it  was purchased in 1919, another report that it was a 1923 model, even 1925-26 model.  --  Steyr was made in Steyr Austria. As it has no front brakes and from the louvres, we thought 1925 Steyr Typ VII. Steyre Register however advised it was a cca 1923 Steyr Typ II, front brakes introduced in 1924.

1925 Steyr Typ VII Tourenwagen

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Royal Enfield 201A 'Ladies Model'
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify the motorcycle being used by the District Nurse below, we came across photographs of what is said to be the first Scottish nurse given a motorbike for her rounds. Very curious machine? --  Flora Ferguson was first nurse to be given transport by the 1912 Highlands and Islands Medical Service (HIMS 1912). ST 4143 was Inverness CC registration. The motorcycle is c1926 Royal Enfield 201A 225cc 2-stroke 'Ladies Model' launched 1924.

1926 Royal Enfield 201A 'Ladies Model'

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Dennis G Type Charabanc
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand)
is trying to identify vehicle posted on a Facebook Page which was asking for identification.
  The reg plate is Masterton (nr Wellington) and photo date is no later than mid 1925 when plates were changed to the national system. -- British bus from company that changed to commercials in 1904 and are still in existence today making dustcarts! This is a cca 1926 Dennis G Type Charabanc, which is from G/GL range of small capacity busses.

1926 Dennis G Type Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Clyno 12'16 Tourer
Another lovely photo received from
David Oborn (UK) of another of Grandfather's cars, This is the one and only photograph of this vehicle. Photo is side on and no registration number visible for clues. Date & location not known. --  Relatively big car but many things unusual about it. Four stud hubs suggested to one of our wise sages that this is a cca 1926 Clyno 12'16 Tourer. Started making motorcycles 1909. Became third largest UK car manufacturerin 1926  but company wound up 1929.

1926 Clyno 12'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Maybach Model 12 Cabriolet
Surfing through the internet in attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified. --  Relatively unusual German car designed by engineer who worked for Gottlieb Daimler to 1907, and was made by a Zeppelin manufacturer. During WW2 the company made almost all of Nazi Germany's tank engines
; Panzer and Tiger. Taken over by Mercedes Benz. This is a luxury cca 1929 Maybach Model 12 Cabriolet.

1929 Maybach Model 12 Cabriolet.

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 Plymouth Radiator Shell
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) wondered if we knew what this grille came from? He found this vintage radiator shell on a scrap metal dump and thinks it is American, probably 1930's and, as it is quite big, maybe off a light commercial vehicle? --  Definitely American but looked more car size, bearing in mind just how big cars were then in period. Confirmed by our Mark Dawber that is comes off a cca 1934 Plymouth.  Saw Tony wondering Reigate and selling it to a anique shop !

1934 Plymouth Radiator Shell
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