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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1906 Martini 20'24
Camionette
Puzzling photo from Jussa
Nieminen (Finland)
of the "first
police car in Finland", supposed year 1900, possibly a Martini. It
should however been a rental car by Helsinki Police September 1906. -- Not
very much of the car is visible but from levers and quadrant, back of
bonnet, hub cap, and as it is chain drive, two of our experts agree
this could be a cca
1906 Martini 20'24 Camionette, Swiss made
by Adolf von Martini 1897-1934. 1906 Martini Auto Co was UK owned,
London Agent Deasy.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Franklin Model G Touring
Lovely photo
received from from Tom Roberts, Virginia (USA)
of his grandfather at the wheel
and great-grandfather in the passenger seat, probably taken on Long
Island; Jamaica-Queens, Brooklyn, New York City area. --
The numberplate is definitely New York and
the car is American made in Syracuse, New York. The round radiator and
the air cooled engine advise it is a Franklin. Round rads were c1906 to
c1910. Car is mid range so is likely to be a cca
1908 Franklin Model G Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Pilain 4S Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a
Swedish film 'Du är inte klok, Madicken' (You're Out of Your Mind,
Maggie) made
in 1979, and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.
Life of a young Swedish girl in Sweden, during World War 1.
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Interesting vehicle for
Sweden because it was French, made in Lyon, by a company started in
1901 called Société François Pilain. This is a cca
1911 Pilain 4S Tourer. Later became
'SLIM'. Brother had car commpany in Tours caller Rolland Pilain
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Douglas 349cc Flat Twin
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking for identification. --
Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody thinks bike
was few years old, lady owner, who
knew what she was doing. Damaged front mudguard had front part sawn off
with the number plate repositioned to suit. Note the 'run flat' tyres!
It is a British Bristol made cca
1912 Douglas 349cc flat twin,
2.75HP. Made famous T T racers, and also later made a cyclecar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913
Rover TT Model 499cc Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking for identification. --
Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises
a cca
1913 Rover TT Model 499cc side valve
single cylinder fixed engine type with no gearbox or pedalling gear.
Note oil pump 'bulge' on side of the petrol tank and the steeply
inclined magneto drive chain case. Note the lower front fork links pass
inside the fork blades. A high quality machine, now very rare.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Clyno 750cc 'V' twin Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking for identification. --Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises
this is a Wolvehampton built cca
1913 Clyno 750cc 'V' twin. This one
does not have a rear chain guard (which could have been removed) and
the visible clamps on the front down tube are probably for fitting a
sidecar. The 'C' of Clyno can be seen at back of tank in
front of ignition advance and retard lever.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Clyno 750cc Standard Sidcar
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking identification. -- Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises
this is a Wolvehampton built cca
1914 Clyno Standard Sidecar Outfit
with V-twin side-valve engine designated 750cc and 3-speed
hand-change gearbox with chain primary & final drive, advanced for
this era when the majority of makes were using belt final drive. Note
the deeply valenced front mudguard.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Napier 30'35 Landaulette
Another lovely photo received from David
Oborn (UK)
of another of Grandfather's cars, this one LY 6223 thought to be a
Napier used for Private Hire circa 1926.' You had already identified
the Sunbeam 12/16 (HP118).
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Napier adopted a one-model policy post WW1
but this must have been a pre-WW1 vehicle registered later. This would
seem to be a cca
1914 Napier 30'35 Open Drive Landaulette.
These were very expensive cars on
par with Rolls Royce. Last Napier car was sold 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Perry 11.9 Two-Seater
Puzzling enquiry received from Richard
Hall (UK)
researching history of local road transport and has regn of local car,
BD3640, described as an 11.9HP 2 seater Terry car. Could find no
mention of such maker. --
No
mainstream cars called Terry. BD3640 is a Northampton County Council
Registration of 1918, However there was a British car "Perry"
made by the Perry Motor Company based in Tyseley, Birmingham which had
introduced 11.9 in 1914. Sold rights to Harpers 1919 and became Bean.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920s
Photographers Prop Car
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of
very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified.
-- This
one may well have fooled people in the past because it very much
resembles a cca 1920 De Dion Bouton Tourer, but it is obviously a
Photographer's Prop. This is a very
detailed facsimile very well observed and expertly drawn/painted in
period. Would almost have been easier to get a real car. RHD so
possibly UK?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Isotta Fraschini Tippo 8 Tourer
Cinema screen grab taken from a German
silent film 'Der Geiger von Florenz' (The Fiddler od Florence) made
in 1926, and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB.
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Twin sets of headlamps suggest
Teutonic or Italian cars. This one was made in Milan by an Italian
manufacturer of exotic luxury cars supplied in chassis form only and
bodied by all major coachbuilders. Had a single model policy after WW1
so can be relatively certain is cca
1920 Isotta Fraschini Tippo 8 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Citroen 5 and 10CV Chassis
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicles
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking for ihelp in dentification. CL Nielsen Garage in town
of Dannevierke (Work of the Danes) on north island of New Zealand.
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seems to be three batches of multiple car chassis on the left of the
photo which are far too indistinct to be identiable. Next is a row of
similar cars at the end of the row which are
Citroen which our Michel Gosset
advises are 5CV & 10CV.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Angus Sanderson 14HP Chassis
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicles
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking for help in identification. CL Nielsen Garage in town
of Dannevierke (Work of the Danes) on north island of New Zealand,
-- Very
unusual British car assembled in Hendon (London) by coachbuilding
company from propriatory parts such as 2.3L engine from Tyler and
geabox from Wrigley; a
cca 1921 Angus Sanderson 14HP Chassis
to be bodied locally.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Hillman 11HP Two-Seater
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicles
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking for help in identification. CL Nielsen Garage in town
of Dannevierke (Work of the Danes) on north island of New Zealand,
-- Despite
claims on garage to American cars, this is another British car, one
which was built in Coventry by makers of Kangaroo bicycle. This is cca
1921 Hillman 11HP Two-Seater. Hillman
became Roots, became Chrysler then was Peugeot.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Cadillac Type 59 Touring
Cinema screen grab taken from an
American film "Flying Luck" made in 1927, and
where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. --
Henry Ford worked for Edison 1891but
was developing a car in spare time. Left to form own Detroit Auto Co
1899 which was disolved 1901. Henry Ford Co was formed 1901 but ford
did not get on with Henry Leland and left. Leland renamed the Henry
Ford Co into Cadillac Auto Co. This car has a relatively slim frontal
view so seems cca
1921 Cadillac Type 59 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1921
BSA Model 'K' 557cc Combination
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
posted on a
Facebook Page which
was asking for identification. --
Our motorcycle guru Chas Moody advises
this is a cca
1921 BSA Model 'K' 557cc, 4 1/4 HP
single cylinder sidevalve motorcycle and sidecar. Well known photo
showing District Nurse Elizabeth McPhee in 1926 with famous Eilean
Donan Castle on Loch Aish, close to the Isle of Skye, Scottish
Highlands. Seems photo was used in recruiting nurses.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
Rover 8HP Two-seater
Puzzling photo posted on the AACA website (USA)
by Newbie asking if anybody can identify this late 1920s, or, likely, very early 1930s car. -- British
car made in Coventry England with horizontally opposed twin engine
across the chassis and with bonnet with large air scoop each side for
drawing in cooling air directly onto the cylinders. The radiator was a
dummy! This is an air cooled cca
1923 Rover 8HP, normally a Two-seater
and Dickey. This range was post WW1 built 1919 until 1925.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Lincoln Model L Roadster
Cinema screen grab taken from an
American film "Flying Luck" made in 1927, and
where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. --
Competitor to Cadillac which had been Henry Ford Co. before Ford was
ousted by Henry Leland 1902. Car was made in Dearborn Michigan by
company founded by Henry Leland but then purchased by Ford on bankruptcy
in 1922. From the unusual headlights this is probably the cca 1925
Lincoln Model L, body seems to be a Convertible Coupe probably by Le
Baron.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Steyr Typ VII Tourenwagen
Lovely photo
received from Evert Moes of North Saanich on Vancouver Island (Canada)
of late grandmother's Steyr automobile. Possibly Mark VII
tourer, but year not clear. Mention that it was purchased in
1919, another report that it was a 1923 model, even 1925-26
model. --
Steyr
was made in Steyr Austria. As it has no front brakes and from the louvres,
we thought 1925 Steyr Typ VII. Steyre Register however advised it was a
cca
1923 Steyr Typ II, front brakes
introduced in 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Royal Enfield 201A 'Ladies Model'
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify the motorcycle being used by the District Nurse below, we
came across photographs of what is said to be the first Scottish nurse
given a motorbike for her rounds. Very curious machine?
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Flora Ferguson was first nurse to be given transport by the 1912
Highlands and Islands Medical Service (HIMS 1912). ST 4143 was
Inverness CC registration. The motorcycle is c1926
Royal Enfield 201A 225cc 2-stroke 'Ladies Model'
launched 1924.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Dennis G Type Charabanc
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify
vehicle posted on a Facebook
Page which was asking for identification.
The reg plate is Masterton (nr Wellington) and photo date is no
later than mid 1925 when plates were changed to the national system. -- British
bus from company that changed to commercials in 1904 and are still in
existence today making dustcarts! This is a cca
1926 Dennis G Type Charabanc, which is
from G/GL range of small capacity busses.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Clyno 12'16 Tourer
Another lovely photo received from David
Oborn (UK)
of another of Grandfather's cars, This is the one and only photograph
of this vehicle. Photo is side on and no registration number visible
for clues. Date & location not known. --
Relatively big car but many things unusual
about it. Four stud hubs suggested to one of our wise sages that this
is a cca 1926 Clyno 12'16
Tourer. Started making motorcycles 1909.
Became third largest UK car manufacturerin 1926 but company wound
up 1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
Maybach Model 12 Cabriolet
Surfing through the internet in
attempting to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs of
very interesting old machinery which has not yet been identified.
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Relatively unusual German car designed by engineer who worked for
Gottlieb Daimler to 1907, and was made by a Zeppelin manufacturer.
During WW2 the company made almost all of Nazi Germany's tank engines;
Panzer and Tiger. Taken over by Mercedes Benz. This is a luxury cca
1929 Maybach Model 12 Cabriolet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934
Plymouth Radiator Shell
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
wondered if we knew what this grille came from? He found this vintage
radiator shell on a scrap metal dump and thinks it is American,
probably 1930's and, as it is quite big, maybe off a light commercial
vehicle? --
Definitely American but looked more car
size, bearing in mind just
how big cars were then in period. Confirmed by our Mark Dawber that is
comes off a cca 1934
Plymouth. Saw Tony wondering
Reigate and selling it to a anique shop !
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