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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1898 Cannstatt
Daimler Victoria
Another puzzling photo received from Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) "Can you please identify this 1800s vehicle?" -- This
is one of the earliest vehicles we had identified and is one
of the very earliest of vehicles built by Gottlieb Daimler. World's first four
wheeled car with four-stroke internal combustion engine. World's
first Taxi. This is a batch of cca 1898 Cannstatt
Daimlers, two
cylinder, 16mph, 1,525cc. First club tour of the Automobile Club
of the Netherlands (N A C), August 8, 1899.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1899
Renault Model A Voiturette
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell
(UK) received this photograph of a mystery
car seen by a friend at the Paris Retromobile. What is it? -- Quite
a historic vehicle, being one of the very first cars built by Louis
Renault. This is a cca
1898 Renault Model A Voiturette he
built for a friends' father. Twelve were ordered on day of driving
through Lepic in Monmatre for delivery. Powered by a single cylinder De
Dion Bouton 273cc 1.75HP engine, enabling 20mph. Model B was
first enclosed car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904/5
Speedwell 6HP Two Seater
Photograph posted on the PreWarCar website
by Alex Selley asking if anybody can identify the car in the photo.
Believed the driver was a Mr. L. Gillespie who was a doctor in
Claremont, Western Australia. --
The car was of "British" origin but not actually made in
Britain. Speedwell
Motor Co were agents in the UK for Gardener Serpollet steamers, Leon
Bollee, MMC etc but assembled French Lacoste & Battmann cars
using French De Dion Bouton engines. New radiator shape introduced
1904/5.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 De Dion Bouton 8 HP Two-Seater
Puzzling
period photo received from Richard Griffiths (UK)
taken around 1910 at a house named 'Caprons' in Claygate, Surrey. The
driver is almost certainly Richard Henry Wilkinson and probably niece,
Evelyn Knocker; album compiled by grandmother, Louisa Forbes (neé
Wilkinson). -- Confirmed
by Ariejan Bos as a cca 1905 De Dion Bouton 8 HP Two-Seater. From
1905 onwards this type had two outside levers. 'Wind Screen and
Hood' original, but half-door and rear trunk extras.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Maxwell Model HC Touring
Puzzling
period photo received from James Carter San Antonio, TX (USA)
who is investigating the the make of a car
sold in the USA in the early 1900s, - he thinks! -- This
one initially looked quite easy but on closer inspection it was not the
De Dion Bouton or Packard etc., I thought it might be because of the 12
spoked wheels. Advised by our Ariejan Bos that this is American cca
1908 Maxwell Model HC 2 cylinder 20 HP
Touring Car, which annoyingly for me is very much the
case !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Colibri 8HP Tourer
Another puzzling photo received from Tom
Cosens from Yorkshire (UK)
of an old car he didn't recognise. This is from his collection of
postcard curiosities on which he has no other background, but which are
needing identification. -- Advised
by our Ariejan Bos that this is a cca
1909 Colibri 8HP Tourer, two cylinder
available in UK at £168. 30mph, 37mpg. Manufactured by Norddeutshe
Automobil Werke in Hamlen, Germany (Pied Piper...) who also later made
the Sperber and NAW automobiles.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Belsize 10'12 Two-Seater
Puzzling
period photo received from Derek Elliott (UK)
"Trying to date the Belsize car. Appears photo was taken in
early 1920s. Looks similar to a 1914 tourer model shown on your Help
Pages. -- Our
Belsize expert Tim Harding advises original car was not
later than 1914 when rad totally changed. The scuttle is shorter and
smoother than the original Edwardian Belsize body, so this car
was re-bodied around 1920. Base car was probably Manchester made cca
1911 Belsize 10'12 Two-Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Vauxhall Model B Tourer
Lovely unusual coloured period photo sent
to us by Chris Jones (UK)
"Photographed in South Queensferry Edinburgh Scotland outside my
old house. Built to oversee construction of Forth Rail Bridge, later a
Royal Navy Hospital WW1. Always assumed it was a Crossley tourer?"
--Tinting makes
it a bit more difficult. Big hollow at the rad suggests the flutes of a
Vauxhall. No slope as on a Crossley bonnet. Fancy body. Two of our
experts think this is cca
1913 Vauxhall Model B, 30HP 6
cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Dealunay Bellevile 06 Torpedo
Intriguing photograph sent to us from
Jean Carlan (France) asking
if we can identify the car depicted. --
No further info on the photo and nothing on image search. The car is
quite magnificent with twin rear wheels and massive searchlight. Made
in Saint Denis, Paris, France, this is 'Car of the Tzars', as the make
was much favoured by European Royalty. This is one of 55 from just
before WW1 being used by the Military, a cca
1913 Dealunay Bellevile Type 06 8L Torpedo, Rothschild.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Talbot 25 Tourer
Period photo sent in to Rootschat by Aus*Jen (Australia)
asking if anybody can help identify and date car in photo from an
inherited album? -- Jenolan
Caves are a series of magnificent stalagmighty caverns in the Blue
Mountains near Sydney. Discovered 1841 chasing a robber, caves became
tourist attraction. Humpy radiator suggests Talbot, bolt through the
middle of the radiator confirms it, and the scuttle dates it cca
1913 Talbot 25 Tourer. See also HP120
for Daimler.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1918
Crossley 20'25 Tourer
Lovely
period photo received from Harvey Whittam (UK)
in connection with Dorothy Allhusen of
Stoke Court who set up a WW1 hospital at Le Martouret, near Die, France
(photo), and also her home for the rehabilitation of Royal
Flying Corps staff. -- Flat
radiator and later style headlamps so likely c1918
Crossley 20'25 Tourer. 6,000 of these
made during WW1 for the Flying Corps as staff cars, trucks and
ambulances. May have twin rear wheels but hidden. Unlikely later
25/30HP out 1919.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1919
Austin 2 Ton 20hp Lorry
Another interesting
period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify this lorry with a Halifax plate
CP 927 and which is carrying sacks for Bell & Son, Keighley. "
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bonnet shape is bit like a Renault but not much used in the UK.
Designed by Herbert Austin in 1913 and not much changed by 1919 when
production stopped with 2000 made. Used by UK & Russian Armies
WW1. Registration pre1920 so cca1919
Austin 2 Ton 20hp Lorry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Briton 4'16 Tourer
Puzzling
period postcard received from Ian Cameron (UK)
sent in 1927 and featuring people awaiting the Manchester train
at Bramhal Station, Stockport, where he lives. Registration is NB 5847,
which would place it about 1920. -- This
one was another I should have got but Ariejan Bos advised it was a
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1920 Briton 4'16 Tourer with a
horizontal stripe on the radiator. Pointed bullnose rad used for very short time. Briton were initially part of the Star Cycle
Co, making the Starling. Closed in 1922.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
Karrier Model K Lorry
Another interesting
period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify this Karrier standing in some
engineering shop? Number plate obscured but probably West Riding."
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radiator fortunately tells us it is a Karrier vehicle originally made
by Clayton & Co started in 1904, renamed Karrier 1920. This is the cca
1923 Karrier Model K Lorry. Not much
is visible but could be the 'H' variant four-wheeler for payloads of 2
tons made up to 1931.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Leyland Q Type 4 Ton Lorry
Another interesting
period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify this Leyland lorry; Shackleton
& Moore. I thought it was a bus at first with all the people. KU
9539 is Bradford." -- Registration
is 1926 Bradford County Borough Council. Appart from the rad having a
Leyland logo, which does help, badge bar, the solid tyred wheels, oil
burning side lights and double row of louvers suggests this vehicle is cca
1926 Leyland Q Type 4 Ton Lorry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Guy Model B Open Top Bus
Another interesting
period photo that was a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify this bus from Bare Lancashire?
Plate is TD 7098...[I think]." -- Rather
pretty 'half cab' forward control open top double decker bus made by
Guy Motors, founded 1914, in Wolverhampton. Came under control of
Minitry of Munitions. Orders for WW1 meant success and busses to Brazil
prosperity. This is
cca 1926 Guy Model B 6 wheeler, dropped
frame bus.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Albion Viking PM28 Omnibus
Another interesting
period photo that was a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify this bus operating in Calderdale,
Halifax, Heptonstall? Registration is CP 5969". -- Rather
nice 'half cab' forward control single deck omnibus. Registration is County
Borough Council of Halifax c1928. Badge on radiator has outline of a stylized
sun so made by the Scottish Albion Motor Co of Glasgow. This is a 1928
Albion Viking PM28 with a forward
entry passenger door.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Albion Viking PM28 Omnibus
Another interesting
period photo that was a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify bus operating in Calderdale,
Halifax Hebden Bridge? Registration is CP 5970". -- Another 'half cab' forward control
single decker. Reg. is County Borough Council of Halifax c1928.
Registration is consecutive but bus number is plus one. Badge on
radiator has outline of a stylized sun so made by the Scottish Albion
Motor Co of Glasgow. This is a 1928
Albion Viking PM28.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929
Brough Superior SS100 Alpine GS
Another interesting period photo which was
a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" I have several images of this motorbike and side car, WW
8276;Yorkshire. Any ideas please?"
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is West Riding of Yorkshire. Our Chas Moody advises this is a cca
1929 Brough Superior SS100 Alpine Grand Sports
with 986cc JAP V-twin OHV engine. They were also fitted with Matchless
V twins. Lovely machine. It could well be that it is George Brough
himself in the saddle (1890-1970).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Overland Whippet 101
Another interesting
period photo that was a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify this vehicle sporting Bibby`s of
Clapham signage please? WX 5976 plate." --
Registration is West Riding of Yorkshire so established there is a
Clapham there too! The Pickup is American and advised by Mark Dawber
that it is probably a cca
1930 Overland Whippet 101 Canopy Top Body.
Willys Overland cars and commercials were available in UK from
1911.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
AEC Mammoth Major 8 Mk 2
Another interesting
period photo from a glass negative sent to us by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify this tanker with a Yorkshire
plate. I see it is a Mammoth."-- Registration
is West Riding of Yorkshire mid 1935. From having two front axles and
two back axles, and from logos, it is a cca
1935 AEC Mammoth Major 8 Mk 2 introduced
1935 for heavier payloads of up to 15 tons by having additional axle,
and powered by 6 cylinder 110HP engine. Replaced in 1948 by the Mk 3.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1938
Bedford WLG 2 ton Lorry
Another interesting period photo which was
a glass negative from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you help with these two Scottish lorries which seem
identical to me?" -- Lorry
on left has reg EXO and right EUC which are both London County Council
1938, few months appart, so a coincidence they are both in Scotland?.
Both lorries do indeed look similar and both are from the UK end of the
General Motors empire. These are pre 1939 rad change, cca
1938 Bedford WLG 2 Ton Lorries.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
1938 Albion Flatbed Lorry
Another interesting
period photo from a glass negative sent Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify vehicle; Thwaites Motor Haulage Co.
Keighley?" -- We
are not specialists in commercial vehicles and a particularly
difficult angle photograph. However, from the sloping side quaterlight
window we think this could be a cca
1938 Albion Flatbed Lorry converted
during World War Two to run on Wood Gas. Wood gasification is the
conversion of firewood into combustible gas by heat.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown c1910
Landaulette
Another very puzzling
period photo sent to us by Tom Cosens (UK)
"Please would you have a look at this lovely car for me, as I'm
struggling to identify it. Photos from postcards?" --
Regretfully NO! This photo has done the
rounds of all of our experts and none of them have come up with even a
suggestion, which would make it a
rare car. British bonnet handle? Three
wheel nuts was Lagonda but nothing this big in their early small
cars. Suggestions poss French, less than 12 HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown
c1928 Scarborough Show Bus
Another very puzzling
period photo which was a glass negative sent by Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK)
" Can you please identify tourist bus in St Georges Square,
Huddersfield; Reg RR 8929...Northamptonshire?"
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are not specialists in commercial vehicles and the radiator on this one
is unusually elaborate for the period. It seems to be a "show
bus" and script on the side reads
"Come and see Scarborough". Only lorry with similar rad
was much earlier Albion, and Albion did make specials.
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