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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: Probaby
1901 Humber Forecar
One of a number of photos sent to us by Peter
Light (UK) from the
family collection. Grandfater was George Nicol who owned the
Essex Omnibus Company. This one relates to '1900 approx Charles &
Selina Webster with Daisy & Grace'. --
Very unclear picture so not a positive
identification but as the forecar seems to have a platform and the tank
has carburetor bits, we think it is probably a cca
1901 Humber Forecar. Humber was
first series producer of vehicles in the UK. Chrysler
1970.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907
Riley 9HP V Twin
Interesting postcard sent to us by our
member Chris Cuss (UK) from
one of his friends which is showing a dog driving a car. He wanted to
known the name of the dog! -- Lassie
sprang to mind. Fortunately
shortly after he also supplied the answer that the car is a 1907 Riley
9HP and that the photo is a still from a 1907 Cecil Hepworth film 'Rover
drives a car' where the dog rescues a child. The dog's actual name was
'Blair' and was Hepworth's. It was first cine animal to have named
role.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1909 Federal Truck
Somewhat blurred photo sent to us by Ulf
Lagerkvist (Sweden) taken near Uddeholm in
Sweden in 1917. We were investigating the photo without much success
when Ulf came back to us saying his friend Thorbjörn Pettersson visited
a very interesting old man who had the same picture in his collection.
The truck is made by FEDERAL in the U.S. Later they found out that the
registration number was S 200 and the owner was a person
called L.P. Nordkvist from the north of Varmland.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Delage Two Seater
Period
photo sent in by Peter Ransom
(Australia) taken
in Brisbane in 1914 or later, outside a local picture theatre. The car
is a Delage
but he asks for model and year. --
Our usual team of experts could not nail it precisely so we asked Peter
Jacobs of The Delage Register for help. He advised that the badge type
was introduced in 1909 and scuttle design places it not later than 1910.
Probably a 4 cylinder car making it type J, L or M. Note one tyre is
bald and out of the rim, and one light is broken!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
Austin Model 70 Touring
Two interesting period photographs sent in
by Tony Harman (USA)
whose Great-Grandfather was a driver for a
rich lady and these were two of the cars he drove. He took
Granddad from Main to LA in 1917. --
This a very large car indeed with three
rows of seats. Our colleague Chris Poulsen of the AACA suggested it was
an Austin and further research suggests it is a cca 1911 Austin Model 70
Tourer built in Grand Rapids Michigan, USA, - which has no connection
with Austin of England.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
GN Cyclecar
Unusual car being investigated by
AutoPuzzles but one quite well known in the UK. This is a cca 1911 GN
Cyclecar manufactured in Hendon in Middlesex, and designed by H.R.
Godfrey and Archibald Frazer Nash. Initially wooden frame and JAP V Twin
engine made in the family stables. It was the first and probably best of
British cyclecars achieving competition success. Purchased by British
Gregoire and later licenced to French Salmson company.
Two founders later had own companies.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
Bucharest - Unknown Cars
Fabulous period photograph sent by Adrian
Pascu-Tulbure from a friend Radu Oltean (Romania)
showing the opening of a new road in 1913
Bucharest. In 1913 there were only about 1000 cars on the road in the
country, so those shown on the photo must have represented about 1% of
them! -- Bad
angle! Cars probably with Teutonic influence; perhaps Austria
or Czechoslovakia. Different cars with similar windscreens? Reg. 307
could be Laurin & Klement type L. Smaller car possibly French.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
Trumbull Cyclecar
Rather blurred photo of a photo in a family
album sent in by Ian Young (New Zealand) of
a car driven there by his wife's mother in 1935.
--
Has all the looks of an Austin Seven but
quite obviously is not. The car is American 1704cc built in Bridgeport initially
as the "American" but company purchased 1914 by Trumbull
Bros. Cyclecars were unpopular in USA, so exported to Europe and
Australia. Isaac Trubul was lost in 1915 in the sinking of
the Lucitania together with 20 cars
destined for UK.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
Swift 7HP Two Seater
Lovely period
photo sent in by Arnold Edward (UK)
whose wife Barbara has been researching the World War 1 VAD Hospital in
Winchcombe, Gloucestershire. Can we identify the car? -- Seems
normal hospitals could not cope with the wounded so Red Cross set up
lots of Voluntary Aid hospitals across the UK,
30 in Gloucestershire; large residential houses, public buildings and
even the grandstand at Cheltenham racecourse. Car is a
cca
1915 Swift 7HP Two Seater with blackout
lamps.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1917
Golden Submarine Racer
Another interesting period photographs sent in
by Tony Harman (USA)
whose Great-Grandfather was a driver for a
rich lady. He took
Granddad from Main to LA in 1917. --
This one did not require identification as
it is notated Los Angeles, Ascot Park, Oldfield's
Golden Submarine. Built by Fred
Offenhauser and Harry Miller for Barney Oldfield as first enclosed
aluminium wind-tested streamliner with an internal roll cage, after his
friend Bob Burman was killed in an open car.
Exhibited in Ascot 1917.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1917 Pathfinder
12 Cloverleaf Roadst.
Two interesting period photographs sent in
by Tony Harman (USA)
whose Great-Grandfather was a driver for a
rich lady and these were two of the cars he drove. He took
Granddad from Main to LA in 1917. --
Very interesting car identified by our
colleagues Layden and Lief of the AACA. The car is a cca 1917 Pathfinder Twelve Cloverleaf Roadster
with a clever back where the top folds down into the channel around the
rear seat and spare is under car at back. Trip needed six others extra!!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1918
Crossley 20'25 Charabanc
One of a number of photos sent to us by Peter
Light (UK) from the
family collection. This one relates to George Nicol who owned the
Essex Omnibus Company in the late 1920s/early 1930s. The small charabanc
HM 2006 was possibly his first commercial acquisition. His other
vehicles were Leylands and a Maudslay. --
Our John Warburton, who had one, is confident
this is a cca
1918 Crossley 20/25hp chassis, ex-WD , bodied after the war
with a small charabanc body. Registered East Ham
CBC.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Premier 6D Touring
Unusual car being investigated by
AutoPuzzles but one we have come across before so the unusual pointed
nose was familiar. Despite the pointed nose, normally a Teutonic
indicator, the car was made in Indianapolis, Indiana in the USA. This is
a cca
1920 Premier 6D Touring. The oakleaf
logo in 1902 was claimed as being the first emblem to represent an
automobile trademark. Other claim to fame was that the cars in this
period used the Cutler Hammer electrically actuated
gears.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1921
Ford Model T Tourer
One of a number of photos sent to us by Peter
Light (UK) from the
family collection. Grandfater was George Nicol who owned the
Essex Omnibus Company. He was told by aunt, that Grandad owned a Ford,
and attribution of "Ford" came from that same aunt, but she
was not an expert on cars. The "Ford" photo has not been
reversed - the car was left hand drive. --
She's not wrong. This is a cca
1921 Ford Model T Tourer. LH Drive so
import? Upright windscreen dates it as
pre 1923.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Morris Cowley Bullnose
Out of focus and shaken photo-of-a-photo sent to us by
Peter Bamber (UK) Could
we please identify his grandfather's first car? He is the one in the
driving seat. He was born 1899, so Peter estimates the photo would be
approx 1925-1930. --
Good estimate because the car is a cca 1922
Morris Cowley Tourer. Cowley was the
more economical version of the Oxford and is recognisable by the 'three
lamp set' where the headlamps are fitted to the mudguards, third
lamp being red on back.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Calcott 11.9 Drop Head
One of a number of photos sent to us by
Peter Benson (UK) showing
a number of cars owned by his Grandfather Fred Benson. Peter is trying
to identify and date the cars. Photos would have been taken around the
mid 1940s in the UK. This car features his grandfather. --
This is quite an unusual car of which only
2,500 were made in the short existence of the company between 1913 and
1926. This is a cca
1923 Calcott 11.9 (or 13.9) Two Seater
with Dickey. Earlier made roller skates and bicycles.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Probably
1923 Morris Cowley
One of a number of photos sent to us by
Peter Benson (UK) showing
a number of cars owned by his Grandfather Fred Benson. Peter is trying
to identify and date the cars. Photo shows The Passmore Edwards Cottage
Hospital in Tilbury renamed Tilbury Cottage Hospital in 1924. --
The photo is very small and car is blurred
but consensus of opinion is that it is a cca
1923 Morris Cowley Bullnose from the
headlamps on the wings. Body is unusual and it may be
a 'special' four-seater 'chummy'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Hillman 14 HP Saloon
One of a number of photos sent to us by Peter
Light (UK) from the
family collection. Grandfater was George Nicol who owned the
Essex Omnibus Company. --
The car proved relatively difficult to
identify, although it looks easy. We could not nail it precisely but
John Warburton and friends are relatively sure that Hillmans of the
period have many features, wheels, bonnet, some body parts etc. in
common. So we are going with early example of a cca
1926 Hillman 14 HP Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Austin Seven AD Tourer
One of a number of photos sent to us by
Peter Benson (UK) showing
a number of cars owned by his Grandfather Fred Benson. Peter is trying
to identify and date the cars. This car features his father
mid 1930s in the UK. --
Our Austin Seven racer John Caddy believes
this to be a cca
1927 Austin Seven AD Tourer;
26-on a four piece bonnet, external door handles, vertical in 28.
Between Sept 1926 and Jan 1927 the headlights were fitted next to the
radiator after Jan 27 went back to the scuttle.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Austin Seven R Saloon
One of a number of photos sent to us by
Peter Benson (UK) showing
a number of cars owned by his Grandfather Fred Benson. Peter is trying
to identify and date the cars. This car features his father
mid 1930s in the UK. --
Our Austin Seven racer John Caddy believes
this to be a late 27 or early cca
1928 Austin Seven R Saloon or, perhaps
RK, as late 28 nickel rad and wider doors with mudguard cutaways.
Headlamps moved scuttle to front, and due Police, back
again. Non standard badge bar.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930
Morris Minor Saloon
One of a number of photos sent to us by
Peter Benson (UK) showing
a number of cars owned by his Grandfather Fred Benson. Peter is trying
to identify and date the cars. Photos would have been taken around the
mid 1930s in the UK. This car features his father. --
Our Morris expert Chas Moody confirmed that
this is a cca
1930 Morris Minor Saloon. About 40,000
were made 1929 to 1932 and were designed belatedly to compete
with the Austin Seven launched a
couple of years earlier.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1933
Ford Model Y Saloon
One of a number of photos sent to us by Peter
Light (UK) from the
family collection. Grandfater was George Nicol who owned the
Essex Omnibus Company. This one relates to 1959 and features Pauline and Elaine at Dovercourt.
-- The
car is a cca 1933 Ford Model Y Tudor
Saloon surrounded by caravans so probably a camping site. Registration
is CUU113 issued by London County Council in March 1936. Strange font.
First true European Ford and 158,000 made
between 1932 and 1937.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936
Morris Eight Saloon
One of a number of photos sent to us by
Peter Benson (UK) showing
a number of cars owned by his Grandfather Fred Benson. Peter is trying
to identify and date the cars. Photos would have been taken around the
mid 1930s in the UK. This car features his father. --
Our Morris expert Chas Moody confirmed that
this is a cca
1936 Morris Eight Saloon. About 164,000
of Series I cars were made 1935 to 1937 and were a great success
and company's savior. Mk II added a further 54,000 to
1948.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1945
Wolseley 10 Saloon
One of a number of photos sent to us by Peter
Light (UK) from the
family collection. Grandfater was George Nicol who owned the
Essex Omnibus Company. This one relates to '1950s, - possibly the
Walsinghams'. --
The car is relatively easy to recognize but
the numberplate is obscured to provide accurate dating. This is a cca
1945 Wolseley 10. These cars commenced
in 1939, stopped for the war, recommenced 1945-48. Recognisable by
two circular bonnet key holes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1914 Unknown Tourer
Couple of period photos sent to us by
Sophie Burrows - Perth (Australia)
of her Grandfather (previously a coal miner) who was a chauffeur
gardener (1910-1930s) for a well known pawnbroker in Sheffield, and then
later for a big grocer and tea merchants called HG Nichols. -- Enquiry
had bee passed to our internal and external experts but regretfully
nobody has come up with an identification. In theory the flap
on the bonnet side should have been an easy
feature to identify !
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