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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
Page 74 below relates to enquiries received
during
2014 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:
1901 Napier 50HP 16 litre 'Monster'
Photo received from Alec Stevenson (UK)
labelled "EDGE ON (70H.P.)
NAPIER", and was puzzled as to what it meant, from a box marked
"Hill Climb Wrotham". Do we have any info on Wrotham.
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have not been able to find anything specific on Wrotham, but the general
area is full of hillclimb venues including Vigo Hill. Our Experts think
the car is the 1901
Napier 50HP 16 litre 'Monster' and S F
Edge was second on a 50hp Napier at Tilburstowe Hillclimb
near Godstone on 15th June 1901.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1901
Boyer Rear Entrance Tonneau
Lovely photograph received from
Peter Young (Australia)
from an album from his father. Believed
taken in London. He thinks it may be the Colman family (Colman's
Mustard). Could it be a De Dion Bouton, the bonnet is a short? --
This enquiry has taken quite some time to
resolve because it is not one of the more common makes. According to
our Ariejan Boss, French cca 1901 Boyer Rear Entrance Tonneau, (sold in
UK as York), probably Aster model, which was 6.5HP single
cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1902
De Dion Bouton Type O Tonneau
Cinema screen grab from a French film
"Trois Valses"
(Three Walses) made in 1938 where the cars are being investigated by
IMCDB. Film is based on Oscar Straus operetta of 1935 and is takes
place in three time periods and basically deals with fall of aristocracy
and rise of filmstars. --
Car is French. From the simple unframed rad with five separator
brackets, seven louvres on side and four on front of the bonnet, all
suggests a cca
1902 De Dion Bouton Type O Rear Entrance
Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1904
Peugeot Swing Seat Tonneau
Glorious period photo received from Brian
Flint, Cambridgeshire (UK)
of Great Grandparents Thomas and Helen Marshall, with their 8 children.
The little girl, Edna (8) rear seat nearest camera, remembers occasion
and states the car is a Peugeot. Front door is not original and white
line painted day before photo was taken in 1912, just off De Grey Street
, Kingston upon Hull. -- Yes,
car is Peugeot and Reg seems AT 354 which is indeed K-u-H. So this is a
cca 1904 Peugeot, and Swing Seat Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Perhaps
cca1904 Lacoste & Batmann
Photo received from Sarah McQueen (UK)
who thinks this is a 1904 Lanchester
with Ambrose Elson of the London Laundry, Coventry, his wife 'Daisy'
(Esther) Blakemore daughter of Daniel Blakemore of Clarke, Cluley
bicycle co. Is on left Frederick Lanchester's brother George?
-- All
our experts seem to agree that this is not a Lanchester. A couple of our
experts feel this has cca
1904 Lacoste et Battmann features or UK
Speedwell version. Not aware of Lanchester connection.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909 Darracq 14'16 Tourer
Lovely period photo spotted by Simon (UK)
while visiting Penshurst Place, Kent. Can we identify car. Seems no info
attached to the photo. -- Yes,
car is French, made by a bicycle maker who sold his Gladiator cycle
company to Adolphe Clement, went on to make Millet motorcycles and
Bollee designed tricars. Established companies in Spain and UK,
became major shareholder in Sunbeam Talbot Darracq, sold to Rootes in
1935. This is a cca
1909 Darracq 14'16 Tourer, then cost
225 Guineas.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
SCAT 14'16 Tourer
Interesting photo sent to us by Wes Hughes
(Australia) which
features his Grandfather (driver). Rear
seat behind driver is Archbishop Clune (Perth Diocese, Western
Australia) outside St. Mary's Church in Coolgardie, a remote mining
town. Had a population of over 35,000 but borderline ghost town
now. Grandfather was in Europe for the duration of the WW1. --
Quite an unusual car made in Turin Italy but sold in colonies by Newton
& Bennett in UK. This is cca 1913
SCAT 14'16 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:
1913 Sunbeam 16'20 Tourer
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website
(UK) while
trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for
identification of the vehicle. -- Location
is Brundall House used as a Hospital in WW1. Registration AH is Norfolk
CC cca 1913. The car is therefore pre WW1 and is a rather stunning
cca
1913 Sunbeam Tourer, not the smaller
12'16, probaly the 16'20, and from length of bonnet, probably not the
25'30. It has a non standard factory body and replacement mudguards.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1917
Ford Model T Two-Door Runabout
Number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying
he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this
subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this American
photo? -- The
car is a very popular American made in Detroit. The bonnet is rounded
so post 1916, split upright windscreen smaller section top so post
1917, so we think a cca 1917'18 Ford Model T
Two-Door Runabout, least costly but priced from $345.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1918
Ford Model T Touring
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Had some quite hard ones recently but this is one is relatively
easy. Car is decorated with flowers so looks as if they are at a
wedding. The car was made in Detroit America. Rounded scuttle
shape post 1916 and wheels not demountable so pre
1919. This is a cca
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Lexington Minute Man Six Touring
Number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying
he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this
subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this American
photo? -- Unusual
American recognisable from the badge which seems to have the left top
corner missing and which has deeply indented hex wheel hubs. This is a cca
1920 Lexington Minute Man Six Touring,
an assembled car made '10-27 in
Connersville, Indiana.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925 Oldsmobile 30 Four-Door Touring
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- Gorgeous
photo showing period rural Romania and chaps who knew how to do a
head off de-coke. The car was made in Detroit America. Fancy
scrolled shape of the radiator top and scalloped bonnet puts this
into the 1924-1926 period, so this is cca
1925 Oldsmobile 30 Four Door Touring. |
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:
1925 Ford Model T Pickup
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website
(UK) while
trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for
identification of the vehicle. -- Location
is Brundall Railway Station. Registration AH is Norfolk
CC but number is illegible. The car is American built in Detroit,
and is a cca 1925 Ford Model T Pickup, and came from the USA as is LHD.
The Pickup was introduced for 1925 and was effectively a 2 seat Runabout
with a pickup body. The bonnet/scuttle was restyled for 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925
Essex Coach
Another photo received from Geoff Procter,
Wiltshire (UK)
saying 'What thoughts on the car in the background of this photo? I don't have a higher quality image
at present. Cannot make our registration. -- Very
blurry small photo so not possible to be absolutely sure. However some
interesting pointers. Car has detachable rims because no centre to the
spare tyre. It has a large rear window and has a very angular coach type
body. American. Relatively sure a cca
1925 Hudson Essex Coach.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Morris Bullnose Cowley
Another photo received from Geoff Procter,
Wiltshire (UK)
saying 'What thoughts on this photo? I don't have a higher quality image
at present. Reg looks like HK 9044. -- Bullnose
Morris Cowley. Registration is Essex CC
1921, which is interesting because our Chas Moody thinks it is a 1926
model year: well-based wheels (1925 on), Gabriel Snubbers (1925 on),
front wheel brakes (1926 only), flush sided body (1925 on), and the rear
of the body is flush with the top of the doors (1926
only).
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:
cca1926 Lancia Charabanc
Photo received from Andrew Randall (UK). Can
our experts identify the vehicle: make, model & year? It has a look
of FIAT about it. -- Right
country, right town, wrong manufacturer. Badge is white outer, dark
inner. This is a cca
1926 Lancia Charabanc probably based on
the Triota lorry chassis. Vincenzo Lancia was in at the start of FIAT
and became FIAT racing driver. Started own factory 1906. First lorries
were made in 1915 called the Jota. Company became FIAT 1969, name
finished 2014.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1928 Ford Model A Coupe
Number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying
he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this
subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this American
photo? -- The
car is a popular American made in Detroit. This is a follow-on model to
the Model T introduced in November 1927 but not sold until December.
Dating of this one is from the headlamp support bar suggesting this is
a cca 1928 Ford Model A Coupe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
FIAT 509A Two Door Saloon
Interesting photo sent to us by George Layton (Thailand),
asking if it would be easy to identify this vehicle.
-- Well, Yes. The first
point of identification is the sharp 'Rolls-Royce' type of top to the radiator.
Lots of cars copied this style of radiator but this vehicle also has a light
coloured blob at the bottom of the radiator. The top suggests this is an
Italian FIAT and the light blob suggests an externally mounted generator. Body
suggests this is cca
1928 FIAT 509A Two Door Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
GMC One-Ton Truck
Number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying
he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this
subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this Canadian
photo? -- Lovely
photo showing the strength of GMC front mudguards. This is a cca
1928 GMC One-ton Truck. GMC was a division of General Motors which
merged some of the earliest truck manufacturers, introducing the GMC
Truck commercials brand in 1912.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Chevrolet National Series AB
Number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying
he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this
subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this Canadian
photo? -- Not
a good photo of the radiator, so it took a bit of discussion and looking
at various possibilities of General Motors models such as Pontiac and
Oakland but as from Canada, we have finally agreed that this is a cca
1928 Chevrolet National Series AB.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:
1931 Aston Martin Le Mans Sports
Photo received from John Collison (UK)
asking for help in solving the puzzle as he
is unable to identify the make of this car in the photograph. This was
left in a box of photos by a recently deceased relative and he is keen
to find out what it is. -- Registration
GT 2453 is London CC, 1931. Our Aston Martin expert Keith Piper advises
that this is a 1931
Aston Martin Le Mans Sports. It is
A1/102, the 1931 Olympia show car, noted as 'ex G.F.Manby-Colegrave',
and 'Known, in Japan' since at least 1992.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932
Chevrolet Confederate Roadster
Number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying
he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this
subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this Canadian
photo? -- Careful
look at the wheel hubs shows a very faint logo of angled rectangle with
a central long bar. This is a Chevrolet Badge. It has four large bonnet
louvers, is two seat roadster, both which date it cca
1932/3 Chevrolet Confederate Sports Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1948
Chevrolet Fleetmaster Two-door
Slightly blurry and damaged photo sent to us by
Jack O'Riley from Decatur (USA) which
features his mother-in-law's Grandfather
and friend. Can we name car? -- Our
New Zealand contributor Mark Dawber advised that he is fairly sure this
is a 1948
Chevrolet Fleetmaster Two-door Sedan.
Chevrolet called it a 'town sedan' in that era. It was the biggest
selling body style in the lower price line that year according to 'The
Standard Catalog', having vertical grille piece used
in 1948 only.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:WW1
Military Vehicles
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- Photo
showing period military camp with as number of vehicles. Unfortunately
the photo is too grainy to be able to pull out details but we can
tell that the vehicle on the left in the barn is a FIAT 15 TER,
probably a Renault in the centre, and a FIAT 18BL on the
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Unidentified
Open Tourer
Another from a batch of
fascinating photographs from our regular contributor Cicos Florin
in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? -- No,
and neither does anybody else we have contacted !! Only positive
suggestion is that the wheels are 'Riley Patent' so Riley did come
to mind. Rear suspension is advanced for year, - 1908? Suggestion
was a cca
1909 Riley 10 HP Tourer, but
Riley dumbirons have more curvature? |
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