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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided :
Page 28 below relates to enquiries received
during
2010. Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1902
Gladiator 12 HP Tonneau
Damaged photo submitted by Scott
Jones-Christ of Toowoomba, Queensland (Australia)
whose origin is a mystery as he has no clues as to the identity
of the men. Is the car a De Dion Bouton? -- No.
Curious one which John Warburton clarified with the help of Rory
Sinclair as a cca
1902 Gladiator 12HP used before registrations came in. Reg is
early 1904, and photo is probably much later because the car has newer
add-ons such as windscreen, driver's door, mudguards & running board.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Panhard & Levassor Tonneau
Photo received from George
Wigglesworth (UK) of
a car that was reputedly the first in the villages of Dethick,
Lea and Holloway, Derbyshire, and photographed at Lea Bridge. Owner was
John Bertram Marsden Smedley, wife Gertrude was the passenger, and
chauffeur possibly Frederick George Hawley. --
Registration is Derby CC. Offset starting
handle says car is a cca
1903/4 Panhard & Levassor Tonneau.
P&H were French 1890-1967, one of the most influential of car
makers.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
Lanchester 28 Landau
Unusual and very interesting photo received
from John Sherborne
(UK)
which we have repaired. The driver is his grandfather William
Ernest Davies, chauffeur to Lord Howard de Walden, at his households at
Audley End, Saffron Walden, and Seaburn House, Belgravia, London during
1905-11. Also chauffeur to John Gurney Aggs of Pippbrook, Dorking,
Surrey during 1911-30. -- The
car is recognisable by having practically no bonnet and so is a late
cca
1911 Lanchester 28HP Landau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Humber 28HP Tourer
Very interesting photo received from
John Sherborne
(New Zealand).
The driver is his father-in-law's father, and the photograph was
taken in Devonport, Auckland. New Zealand. It is understood to have been
taken in the early 1920s. -- Confirmed
by Tony Oakes,
John Tarring and other experts as a cca 1912
Humber 28HP Tourer. The wing lines with deep overhangs are
particularly distinctive as indeed is the leather skirt and the very
wide wheel hubs featured during the 1911 to 1914 period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
Isota Fraschini 18'25 Type EC
Request received from Benedetto
Gugliotta of the Fondazione Giovan Pietro Grimaldi
in Modica (Italy) saying
that professor Grimaldi purchased in 1913
an Isotta-Fraschini 18/25 HP, Chassis Tipo EC. They are
trying to find some photos of that model to see what the car looked
like. They found our website 'really reliable and well-done', and so
they thought we could help. Help came in the form of our colleague
Manuel in Australia who found the photos in Tito Anselmi's
excellent book on I-F.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:cca
1913 Horch 8'24 Phaeton
Another cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in a
French film
"Seraphine" made in 2008, where the vehicles used are being investigated by
IMCDB. The film is about a German Art Dealer
discovering a French servant girl naive painter, interrupted by WW1
war. -- The
badge was Horch and the August
Horch Museum, Zwickau confirmed it was
a Horch
8/24 PS Phaeton but fitted with a
radiator from pre-1910 period. Could be a car known in Sweden, near
Stockholm.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1918
Daimler Charabanc
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by George Wigglesworth (UK)
who is assembling the history of his local villages in Derbyshire. This
picture headed ''Chapel outing outside Lea Chapel'. Lea is in Derbyshire
near Matlock and the Chapel started by the Nightingale family was one of
the first non conformist. Alas no names of people or date. -- Early
Derby CC registration. Dating info has been lost so the best we can do
is a cca
1914-18 Daimler MK3 Charabanc photoed
later.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Ford T & 1919 Morgan 3-wheeler
Another very interesting 'moody' period photo
received from Malcolm Fare (UK)
who is writing a history of the parish of Hanley Castle and
saying he would be grateful to know what make of vehicle is
shown. -- These cars are relatively
easy. On the left with a transverse front spring is a
cca 1920 Ford Model T Touring, and on the right is a cca 1919 Morgan
Three Wheeler Cycle Car. Both cars would have been made
unaltered for a number of years. The Morgan appears to have a reg. no.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1921
Lexington Minute Man Six
Lovely period photo submitted for
identification by Grandpa (USA)
showing an unusual car in a picturesque
setting. Quickly identified by our friends at the AACA as a
Lexington. --
Further investigation determined that this is an
American cca
1921 Lexington Minute Man Six Touring. Lexington
Motor Co was formed 1909 and initially made cars in Lexington, Kentucky,
moving to Connersville, Indiana in 1910 and joined the
Howard. Taken over by Auburn in 1927 and was phased out.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1921
International Harvester Bus
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. Jan has habit of
unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. -- American.
Our friends at the AACA suggested an International. Further
investigation showed traces of large letters on the radiator which
confirm it is cca 1921 International Harvester Bus. Note
wavy glass and snow chains.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1921
Briton 10'12 Tourer
Series of fascinating photos received from Colin
Wilkinson (UK)
saying our site seems to be a great place to get them identified.
Taken early - mid 1920s. -- Licence
plate DH 1974 is Walsall CBC 1921. Both cars are extremely unusual and
caused much head scratching until passed to our John Warburton who
immediately pointed out that this one was a cca
1921 Briton 10'12 Tourer. Briton was made as a economy model
by an allied company to 'The Star' in
Wolverhampton between 1909-1928.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Cubitt 16'20 Tourer
Series of fascinating photos received from Colin
Wilkinson (UK) saying
our site is a great place to get them identified. -- Licence
plate DH 25xx is Walsall CBC 1922. Both cars are extremely unusual and
caused much head scratching until passed to our John Warburton who
immediately pointed out that this one was a cca
1922 Cubitt 16'20 Tourer. Cubitts were civil engineers,
builders of Buckingham Pal., Osborne Hse., and Cenotaph, venturing
briefly to American style car production 1919-25.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Ford Model T Dropside Lorry
Another very interesting period photo
received from Malcolm Fare (UK)
who is writing a history of the parish of Hanley Castle and
saying he would be grateful to know what make of vehicle is
shown. -- Looking
through the spokes of the front wheel it is not possible to see any
dumbirons or front springs. Can see the end of a transverse spring. The
vehicle is a cca
1922 Ford Model T 1 Ton Dropside Lorry.
First Model T Ford trucks were produced in
1917. No registration to provide dating.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Vinot et Deguingang Type BO
Another photo received from Jim Derham-Reid
from British Columbia (Canada). Cannot
make out the make on the original photo (not readable on this
scan) but thinks the first part is Vinot. Photographed at small local
car show in Lytham-St. Annes '79. --
Popular French make 1901-26, initially Vinot & Deguringand, later
Vinot. Subsequent UK investment resulted in parallel manufacture of the
Vinot taxi and the Gladiator. This is a cca
1922 Vinot et Deguringand 15'20hp Type BO.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1924
Lagonda 12'24 Saloon
Moody but unclear photo submitted by Mary
Lenox (UK)
who is trying to identify the lady standing beside the car, and a date
for the car would be very helpful. Photo was probably taken in England,
but may have been taken in Australia. Apparently Beaulieu could not
identify the car. -- Not
an easy one but fortunately our Tony Oakes spotted that it had no
dumbirons so transverse spring, perhaps Lagonda. Investigation in
detail revealed that it was indeed
a cca
1924 Lagonda 12'24 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Amilcar CC Bernardet Bodied
Photo submitted to Autopuzzles for
identification. --
The car is obviuosly an Amilcar but the body was most unusual. As we
have the premier Amilcar expert in our Society we put him to the test,
which apparently wasn't much of one. Came back immedaitely with that
this is a
cca 1924 Amilcar CC with a unique body
built by Bernardet Freres. Bernardet, located south of Paris,
were initially mainly a motorcycle side-car manufacturers, who
later went into manufacture of scooters.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1924
Steyr Type 5 Tourer
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. Jan has habit of
unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. -- The
car looks very much like an Austrian
cca 1924 Steyr Type 5
Tourer. We
had received a photo of a similar car from Jan
earlier.
The car
features the very fashionable 'spitzkuhler'
pointed radiator then much in favour.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Ford Model T Tudor
Another photo
received from George Wigglesworth (UK)
of 'Mildred', a car used by his uncle, George Metcalfe
Wigglesworth, in Halkirk, Alberta, Canada where he was a butcher. He
emigrated about 1910. It is believed that the car was modified by
creating access from the back so as to be able to load carcases.
He used it for many years and may not have got it new. -- We
can confirm that the car is
cca 1926 Ford Model T 'Tudor'.
Hinges are visible at back of the car, suggesting door.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1929
Chevrolet LQ Bus
Another of a number of very interesting
photos submitted by Jan Lundin (Sweden)
showing vehicles in the 20s and 30s Scandinavia, for which he is seeking
identification and dating. Jan has habit of
unearthing unusual vehicles and this is no exception. -- American
largish bus in use in sunny Sweden. Badge is Chevrolet. Our friends at the AACA suggested
a
cca 1929 Chevrotet LQ
Bus. Unusual six wheeler. Interesting
enveloping sun visor and side curtain all round,
ventilated!
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936
Zenith-JAP Motorcycle
Amusing photo
received from John Lovell (UK) of
his father and two friends astride a motorbike probably taken in about
1936. -- Registration
is Oxford CBC. Engine seems to be a JAP. Our Geoff Morris immediately
recogised it as a Zenith
from the letter 'Z' on the distinctive tank. Initially made at Hampton
Court (1904) but taken over late thirties by dealer Writers at
Kennington Cross, London. Looks like a 500cc (OHV), but it may just be a
350cc as they are hard to distinguish.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1939
Hillman Minx Drop Head Coupe
Great period photo received from David
Champion (UK). Hisfather
ran a shop in Dorking before WW2 and in late 1930's he bought the
car. Possibly a Humber Snipe. Photographed on Leith Hill when Father was
in the Home Guard before callup when he used to sit in the tower, plane
spotting at night. -- Regret
not a Humber but Hillman. Both companies taken over by Roots Group in
1931. By registration the model is a 1939
Hillman Minx DHC, three stage convertible. Love the one
blackout lamp !
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1949
Pontiac Silver Streak
Slightly fuzzy photo received from Peter
Nickerson (USA)
saying he would
love to identify the make, model and year of the vehicle in this
photo. It was taken in April of 1955, so the car was probably from the
1940s. -- Our
friends at the AACA advise that this is a
cca
1949 Pontiac Silver Streak Sedan. The
smaller, less elaborate hood ornament marks this a 1949 model which also
featured the all-new Fisher body. Pontiac was a division General
Motors that had been Oakland, made in Pontiac.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Stationary
Engine & Eisemann Mag
Series of photos received from Piero
Queirolo from Santiago de Chile (Chile)
saying he has a stationary
engine, but he needs information on how to restore it. Do we
have any information about this model, where is was made, nationality,
age, etc. brochures, any
information on it. --We do not have members who are 'stationary'
experts. One of our readers Jason Tysoe from
England has since advised that this is a Gas
Engine made by Andrews in
Stockport, Manchester, - built circa 1900.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:cca
1914 Darracq perhaps
Damaged photo, which we repaired, received from
Chris Scott (Brazil
& NI),
also sent to Crossleys, asking if a Crossley. They said no, suggesting
us. -- We
also say no. We asked for magnification of wheelhub. Unfortunately not
readable. Our John Warburton is positive not a Crossley from the wheels
and shape of radiator. However does not know what it is. Our thoughts is
it has many features of perhaps a 1912/14 Darracq. Registration is
Belfast, but precise dating info lost.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Late
1930s American Sedans
Very small pixly section of a photo
received from Ernest Byerly of Arkansas (USA)
where the cars were in the background. The
picture was found in a bunch of old family photos and is of a gravesite.
He is trying to narrow it down to which family member, and knowing the
year of the cars would help. He thinks it is between 1920 and 1940.
-- Quite correct
but we regret cannot make out any detail so unable to date
accurately or identify. The car back in
foreground is mid/late thirties.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
 YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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