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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
Page 90
below relates to enquiries received
during
2015 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
 1901
Liberia 6.5HP Voiturette
Very blurry enlargement of postcard received from
Mark Peters (UK) of an ancestor's
car outside the local church in Wouldham, Kent. The number plate seems
'D 1205'. -- Lot
of head scratching on this one including great help from Kent History
Centre who advised D1205 was a Humberette, which this car is not.
For D1206 illegible entry looking 'Lilenia'. Our Ariejan Bos put it all
together and is relatively sure this is a French cca
1901 LIBERIA 6.5HP Voiturette
from British agents in Hull.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably
cca1904 Mercedes Racer
Another photo received from Georges
Truffaut (Belgium) of
vehicles they are trying to
identify. Some people think this is Peugeot type 92 (1907) but he has
his doubts. --
So do we. Two of our wise sages agree this is probably a racing car
converted to road use. If a Peugeot then not a standard model. Two
Versions of type 92 made, but 'not big enough'. Ariejan Bos is sure this
is a cca 1904
Mercedes, (50 or 70 HP) with cca 1909 'Prince
Henry' type body. (Jenatzy had Belgian plates!)
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Alldays 7HP Swing Seat Tonneau
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
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Registration is Surrey County Council and the car is a cca
1905 Aldays 7HP Swing Seat Tonneau.
Alldays & Onions founded 1889 made bicycles and motorcycles; first
car in 1898 a quad, followed by 7HP as on picture.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907
Argyll 10'12 Tourer
Link passed to us by Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) to a photo from Stauart Neill who
is trying to identify car possibly belonging to his Grandfather,
photographed in Auckland. --
The car was relatively easy, being a vehicle manufactured in Alexandria,
Scotland, a cca
1907 Argyll 10'12 Tourer. What is quite
unusual are the wheels and hubs. It seems the tyres are solids and that
the hubs may be hiding some patent form of internal springing (a la
Spherola), the car also having normal springs.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908
Darracq 'Coach'
Link passed to us by Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) to a photo on the thttp://justacarguy.blogspot.co.nz/
website of an "Unknown Coach" . --
Not a coach but a very big car, a
cca 1908 Darracq. Number of models but
as it is a big one, so probably a 40 or a 50HP. Recognisable by the
double D logo, one reversed, and the Crossley like widows peak badge
position on the rad. This was for only one year cca 1907/8. Same car is
shown elsewhere on the web '...leaving Aerodrome
at Bournemouth'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Probably
c1908 Brennabor A1
Couple of blurry photos of postcards received from Thomas
Goluchowski, Bierun (Poland) from about
1912 showing probably the first car in the town which was then in
Prussia. -- --
Photos are scanned at low resolution so no info when magnified. Have
asked for better but got no reply. Best guess from a wavy bonnet and
slanting logo on rad is a cca
1908 Brennabor A1 made in Brandenburg
an den Havel (Slavic : Brennabor) Prussia, not far from boarder and the
late Berun in Prussia.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908'9
Humber 30HP Chassis
Lovely photo of a chassis received from
Stephen Ashton (UK) from a glass
slide, one of many, that all appear to be associated with this marque.
This one is entitled 30HP six cylinder. It is clearly a veteran. Hope
you can help. --
One of our (smug) wise sages advises it is a
30hp
Humber, available according to the
Humber book only in 1908 and 1909. Made in their Coventry, not Beeston
works. 5590cc, wheelbase 9ft 10, 4-speed gearbox. One survivor in
Australia with optional Humber wires.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910
Darracq 14'16 Landaulette
Link passed to us by Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) to a photo on the transpres
nz website where there is a photograph
simply headed 1915 Humber. Mark was questioning the dating. He
thought it was earlier? --
We are questioning the dating and the manufacturer. The louvers
seem wrong as does the filler ? Humber louvres are smaller and there is
more of them. The body style is certainly earlier. To us this looks a cca
1910 Darracq 14'16 Landaulette.
The photo is a little distorted, oval wheel!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Daimler 25 HP Landaulette
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
!
-- This
is a Coventry built car that had the Royal Warrant from as early as 1902
and which was, by the time this vehicle was built, part of Birmingham
Small Arms company. This is a nice cca 1911 Daimler 25 HP Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
cca 1912 Berliet Tourer
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
Another where a lot of head scratching went on and is not a definite
identification, but our Ariejan Bos is quite positive it is a cca
1911'12 Berliet Tourer. This is from
front wheel hub, number of wheel bolts, radiator filler cap, spring
system etc. Rad badge is missing, and the rear hub
looks broken off ?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1913
Hotchkiss 12'16 Tourer
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
this is? --
French car in spa resort town of Slanic-Moldova on the slope of the
Eastern Carpathians by river Slanic. The vehicle is a Paris made cca
1913 Hotchkiss 12'16 15.9HP Tourer.
Hotckisss was an armaments manufacturer that went into cars in 1903 to
1955, merged with Delahaye & made jeeps / trucks to
1971.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914
Charron 6 HP Torpedo
Cinema screen grab taken from a French
made-for-TV film 'Les Fusilles' made in 2015, where cars are being investigated
by IMCDB. Film is about two brothers who are mobilised in 1914 and
accused of desertion and due to be shot.. --
Suggestion made that the vehicle was a Clement
Bayard but the bulkhead radiator is wrong. It is however a known French
film car which is a cca
1914 Charron 6 HP Torpedo, Version Militaire.
Defined on various internet pages as a "Type TA . TM".
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1914
Seabrook RMC Tourer
Relatively unique photo received
Colin Bickell (UK) of a car being
driven by his father in about 1920, in front of the Britannia Inn,
Wolseley Road, Plymouth, UK. All his efforts to identify the car have
failed. -- Quite
uncommon underslung chassis so quite an unusual American car sold in the
UK by Seabrook Brothers, London EC but made by Regal Motor Company of
Detroit. This is a cca
1914 Seabrook RMC 18'22 or the Model T Tourer.
Registration is c1914 Devonport CBC, later
Plymouth.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Star 15.9 Saloon
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
!
-- A
Wolverhampton built car by the then 6th largest UK car
manufacturer. Registration R 5145 is Derby County Council and the car is
a cca
1920 Star 15.9 Saloon. Absorbed
by Guy Motors and eventually closed 1935.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1921
GN Sports Cyclecar
Lovely photo received from Neil Fleming (UK) of
car being
driven by his grandfather, RHB Fleming, and father and his younger
brother as small boys.It was taken in Penang, Malaya, circa 1921. Hence
the Penang number-plate P140. The single headlight is, apparently, very
unusual. -- He
then immediately came back with the right answer that it is a cca
1921 GN Sports Cyclecar. These were
also made in France as Salmson-GN. Single lights were quite normal on
cyclecars of the period.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923
Unic & 1922 Renault
Cinema screen grab taken from a French
made-for-TV film 'Les Fusilles' made in 2015, where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Film is about two brothers who are mobilised
in 1914 and accused of desertion and due to be shot.. --
I suppose any "old car" will do for a TV
film but by 2015 some degree of accuracy would have been assumed. Action
was supposed to be taking place in 1914 but neither of these had been
thought of; a cca
1923 Unic L1 Berline and a cca 1922 Renault OS Lorry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1925
Studebaker Model EQ Special Six
Couple of photos received from Rosemary
Canavan (France) asking
if we could identify the car which
belonged to her grandfather who lived in London but used the car to take
the family to the seaside. The first photo shows picnicking, possibly in
the New Forest. The second photo was taken at Poole Harbour. The photos
were taken around the mid-1920s. --
Rather smart American car made in Indiana advised by Mark Dawber
as a cca
1925 Studebaker Model EQ Special Six Duple Ph.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931
Chrysler
6'62 Sedan
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
!
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Registration suggests this is a Taxi in Romania. The car is American.
Distinct radiator grille, bullet headlamps, intricate shape
bumpers and sun visor advise that this car is a cca
1931 Chrysler 6-62 4-Door Sedan.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1935
Wolseley New Hornet Saloon
Interesting photo received from Darryl
Brathwaite (UK) asking
if we could identify car from an old family photo. On the left in
his Army uniform is his Father-in-law, David Rees, to his right is his
older brother Alwyn. The photograph was taken in Croydon in the late
1950's. -- Slight
questioning on the model but we think this is
cca 1935 Wolseley Hornet Saloon.
Precise identification features are hidden by people but the New Hornet
and Wasp shared body details, Wasp being made one year only.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1936
Georges Irat MDU Roadster
Cinema screen grab taken from a French
movie 'Le voyageur de la Toussaint' made in 1943, where cars are being investigated
by IMCDB. Adaptaion of a Georges Simeon Novel about a young man who
inherits wealth and comes up against corrupt townsfolk. -- A
rather nice sporty car made in Paris. Two crank holes at base of
rad, folding windscreen with wiper, this is a front wheel drive cca
1936 Georges Irat MDU Roadster with a
Ruby 6HP engine, 1078cc, with rubber suspension.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1937 De Soto S3 Touring Sedan
Cinema screen grab taken from a British
short film 'London Scrapbook, 1942' made in 1942, where cars are being investigated
by IMCDB. Basically a collection of scenes about an American
actress Bessie Love driving around the streets of London during WW2.
-- December
1937 Surrey registration plate but script seems a bit suspect. The car
is a cca
1937 De Soto S3 Four-door Touring Sedan
(poss UK built) with a wartime blackout mask on the fog-lamp and sidelamps.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937
Opel 1.2 Cabriolet
Another interesting photo sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who
is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this photo taken in 1945
and showing three Red Army officers somewhere in liberated
Europe. --
The soldiers are hiding most of the car so it difficult to be precise
on the year but it is from the Opel 1.2L Cabriolet
range. These had two
or four doors, 1193cc four. The 1.2 was manufactured from 1931
and 1935, and was also available in 1933 as 995cc
Opel 1.0.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1949 Salmson S4 Berline
Photo posted on AACA website by TG (USA)
saying the slide was taken in Cannes in
1958. He has identified the other cars but not the black car second from
left. --
Mark Daber thought we might know, and indeed our Tony Oakes came up with
the possible make. A bit more searching came up with it being a French cca
1949 Salmson S4 Berline. The door
closing match, the chrome bodyline stripe, the chrome roof gutter and
chrome guard on front of mudguard, the wheels all also seem to match.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1950
Ford Custom Fordor Sedan
Couple of photos received from Kate Erle (USA)
saying these were taken in the woods in
Orange county, North Carolina, USA. Obviously it somehow landed upside
down, but any ideas on the make/model/year? Couldn't find any
identifying marks at all, but not sure where to look. --
We have rotated photos for ease of viewing and Mark Dawber now advises
this in an American car, a
cca 1950 Ford Custom Fordor Sedan. Most
have chrome disc in the roundel and others have put a light there.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
cca 1931 Coupe
Frustrating photo received from Richard Gilbert (Canada)
of his Grandfather in a car in which is suppose to be 1935-ish in
Aldershot, Hampshire, England. He thought it may be an Austin.
-- The bulbous bit of coachwork below the
bonnet side should tell all, but we have circulated this to all our
internal and international experts, and including the AACA, but nobody
has come up with any suggestion of what it may be. General feeling of a
'special'
possibly built in UK. Any Help welcome!
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