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Ken Robinson, Tel 01293 771980
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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page 50 below relates to enquiries received during 2012Click on picture to enlarge

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905 Peugeot Bebe Type 69
Another photo received from John Dunn (UK) asking for help in identifying the car. Photo was a postcard produced by his uncle Charlie Pinchbeck who was a well known Hull event photographer.  -- Reg is Kingston-upon-Hull CBC but no dating data available. Reg number seems to be later than the car. This is a cca 1905 Peugeot Bebe Type 69, 1 cyl 6hp. First Peugeot was a three wheel steamer made in 1889. In 1906 Bebe were imported to UK by  Friswell of  London EC1, for £155.

1905 Peugeot Bebe Type 69

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Wolseley Siddeley Tourer
A couple of photos received from Anthony Sparling (UK) who is researching his family tree and has several pictures with ancestors in their cars. Some he has identified but could we help with this one showing his Great Grand-Uncle, Charles Pickering Hayley back to England from Ceylon in 1912 to a Glen Eyre, Basett.-- Impressive cca 1907 Wolseley Siddeley Tourer, 12-16 or 16 20HP, made after Herbert Austin left Wolseley and the design was influenced by  John D Siddeley.

1907 Wolseley Siddeley Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Rambler Model 21 Touring
Lovely period photo received from Thomas Gallaher (USA) showing his Great Grandfather driving an imposing car and his Grandmother as one of the children in the back seat. The car was believed to be the first in Elko County, Nevada. -- Original photo was flash photo of a picture under glass so some detail was lost and had to be rebuilt. We are however quite sure this is a cca1907 Rambler Model 21 Touring made by Thomas Jeffrey Co of Kenosha WI,  later Nash,  then American Motors.

1907 Rambler Model 21 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908_Oldsmobile Flying Roadster
Photo posted in the SVVS Magazine (UK) showing a couple of formal chaps out for a spin in the sunshine. Can anybody identify the car and date? -- Car is American and was manufactured by the Olds Motor Vehicle Co in Lansing Michigan. In 1907 the Oldsmobile produced a single model series of ‘flying roadsters’ defined as model H, replaced by Model MR in 1908. Both were fitted with ‘flyaway’ front mudguards and had four cylinder 5.5 litre water cooled engines,  and cost $ 2,750 in '08.

1908_Oldsmobile Flying Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Daimler 25HP Landaulette
Another interesting but slightly grainy photo received from Jane Shrimpton (UK) specialising in dating period dresses. This is one of two photos of a chauffeur in the employ of Lord Lee of Fareham. Killed in WW1 serving with Army Service Corps.   -- Unfortunately the registration is not visible but the car is very much pre-WW1 with open driver's compartment without doors, flat bulkhead and removable headlamps. Ribbed fins define it as cca 1911 Daimler 25HP Landaulette.

1911 Daimler 25HP Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 FIAT Tipo Zero Spyder
Photo received from John Jack (Australia) taken in Queensland and indicated as being 1912. Investigations by a local genealogy group relating to Milne/Parsons family of Sunshine Coast. --  The car looks in very good condition so is relatively new. It could be as dated but has a number of unusual features for a cca 1912 Fiat Tipo Zero Spyder. Body looks Australian, it has an unusual windscreen, snubber shocks and the wheels have detachable rims, -  presumably for  simpler  tyre changing. 

1912 FIAT Tipo Zero Spyder

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 FIAT Tipo Zero Landaulettee
Another interesting but slightly grainy photo received from Jane Shrimpton (UK) specialising in dating period dresses. This is one of two photos of a chauffeur in the employ of Lord Lee of Fareham. Killed WW1 serving with Army Service Corps.   -- Registration is not visible but the car is pre-WW1 with curved-to-flat bulkhead with open driver's compartment with a door.  Very Italian style radiator and big oval badge indicates cca1911 FIAT Tipo Zero 4 cylinder 12'15HP Landaulette.

1913 FIAT Tipo Zero Landaulette

RESTORATION PARTS REQUIRED:1914 Belgian Light Armoured Car
Email received from Marc Loriaux and Paul Rillaerts (Belgium) asking for help in locating a 1914 Mors chassis and a 1914 Minerva engine for the reconstruction of a 1914 Belgian armored car, a project being undertaken for the Brussels Army Museum. Attached was a picture of a similar Belgian light armoured vehicle built in 1915 by the French "carrossier" Mors that they are trying to reconstruct. They have some information from various sources but more would still be very welcome.

1915 Mors Light Armoured Vehicle

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Darracq Two-seater
Photo received from Daniel Monard (France) asking for help in identifying this car. No background information or date is available for this photo.  -- This was another one which was actually very hard to identify and could not be nailed by most of our experts. However our Tim Harding has belatedly provided a positive identification that this is a cca 1914 Darracq Two-seater, probably a 16HP. Darracq in Paris were third largest French car makers at the time after Renault and Peugeot.

1914 Darracq Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Morris Oxford De Luxe
Fascinating photo received from Ken Partridge
(UK) in two stages. The first part-photo showed the car and the second, the full photo, showed the car is in the middle of a group of people standing on the ice of the River Severn which had frozen over at Stourport, Worcestershire. The photo was taken in 1917. -- The car is far from home as registration is Fife CC in Scotland but no dating data remains. Pre WW1. Windscreen is non standard, but otherwise the car is  cca 1914 Morris Oxford De Luxe.

1914 Morris Oxford De Luxe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Calthorpe 10'12 Tourer
A couple of photos received from Anthony Sparling (UK) who is researching his family tree and has several pictures with ancestors in their cars. Some he has identified but could we help with this one showing his Great Grand-Uncle, Charles Pickering Hayley back to England from Ceylon in 1912 to a Glen Eyre, Basett.-- Registration appears to be Birmingham 1915-19. Car is a relatively unusual cca 1915 Calthorpe 10-12HP Tourer made in Bordesley Gn, Birmingham,  at £200.

1915 Calthorpe 10'12 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Photo received from Julian Stephens (UK) who is the Comp Sec of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from 1600s until the 1970s. Was Convalescent Home in WW1.  -- Our John Warburton advises this is a July 1914 built but registered Cornwall CC late 1915 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost Limousine by Morgan, owned by DH Shilson of St Austell. In 1925 W Kendall King of Topsham, and Countess of Huntingdon 1926-30. Went Edinburgh. Gone! 

1915 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably cca 1918 FIAT Charabanc
Our Dutch correspondent Fer Cools (Holland) who often sends us very interesting photographs, bought this one at a Belgian flea market.  No idea on the make. Charabanc near electrified railway or tramline? Tyres Michelin cablé, front wheel 10 holes 5 nuts, rear wheel reinforced. -- Not an easy one but the radiator shape is very much later pear shaped FIAT. Front wheel hub and sloping bonnet suggest a car based chassis; 5 wheelnuts and 5 spacers suggests the FIAT Tipo 2B / 52B 1912 to '20.

Probably cca 1918 FIAT Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922 Dort Four Roadster
Lovely period photo received from Morrie Pringle from Ranfurly (New Zealand) asking if we could please advise make, model, year and where this car was made. It was apparently the first car in the Maniototo to be used by a stock agent. -- Fortunately the logo is evident on the radiator otherwise it may have been a little difficult to identify. This is a car made in the USA in Flint, Michigan; company lasted 1915 -1924. Chrome radiator and no disc wheels  indicates this is a cca  1922  Dort  Roadster.

1922 Dort Four Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923 Galloway 10.5 Two-seater
Photo received from John Dunn (UK) asking for help in identifying this car. It was owned by his uncle Charlie Pinchbeck (shown) who was a well known Hull event photographer and producer of postcards.  -- Quite an unusual car made in Scotland in a factory in Tongland, Dumfries,  run by a woman, Dorothée Pullinger, and generally staffed by women, "...a car built by ladies, for those of their own sex....". This is a cca 1923 Galloway 10.5 Two-Seater based on Arrol Johnson 10/20 but feminised.

1923 Galloway 10.5 Two-seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Dixi Limousine
Another photo received from our regular contributor Raoul Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from a batch of photos he purchased recently on line. Do we have any idea what this car is? -- Several details make me think that this is very likely to be a cca 1925 Dixi Limousine made Dixi Werke, Eisenach. Dixi was the third German company to make cars. Merged with Gothaer Waggonfabrik and made Austin7 cars under licence. Was purchased by BMW in 1928 making the BMW Dixi small car.

1925 Dixi Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Lanchester 21 Landaulette
Lovely photo photo received from Davidna Haigh from Carlyle (UK) asking for positive identification of a car her Father used to chauffeur in 1942.  -- No registration so no dating possible. Giveaway is the sight glass in the radiator header tank so that the water level can easily be checked. The car is a cca 1926 Lanchester 21 Landaulette; possibly 23. Lovely 'veed' windscreen and from flat fronted mudguards on front  can establish that the body  was built  in-house  by Lanchester  themselves.

1926 Lanchester 21 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Morris High Top Light Van
Lovely but very small photo received from John Dunn (UK) showing the '23 Galloway car and suggesting the van was a Morris. We thought it was not.  -- Regret we have to eat our words as this is indeed a Morris. It is a commercial vehicle developed around the Morris Bullnose Cowley but the rad was not good enough so they developed what is now called a 'snub nose' radiator which was more efficient. This is a cca 1928 Morris High Top Light Van.Dating is from having slab rather that stepped sides.

1928 Morris High Top Light Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Citroen C6 Berline
Photo received from John Jack (Australia) taken in Queensland and indicated as being 1928. -- Investigations by a local genealogy group relating to Milne/Parsons family of Sunshine Coast.. The car looks in good condition, so could be relatively new, which it would need to be to be dated 1928 because the Citroen C6 Berline, which this is, was only launched in Paris in October 1928, so would have to reached Australia a bit sharpish. Interesting wire front wheels  &  twin sprung bumper bars.

1928 Citroen C6 Berline

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 Sunbeam Landaulette
Very difficult angle photo received from Richard Langham 
(UK) saying he was sorting out some old photos and came across this one featuring possibly an aunt, taken in the 1920s.  He was struck by how large a car this was, bearing in mind that all his aunts were about 5'10".  -- Very little of the car can be seen but the bonnet hinge looked familiar. Two of our experts confirmed that in their view this was a big cca 1928 Sunbeam Landaulette, possibly straight eight 30 or 35HP, -poss. earlier.

1928 Sunbeam Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932 Morris Major Saloon
Family group photo received from Bill Hatton (Australia) taken in the Calcutta/West Bengal area of India, believed around late 1930'3 - early 1940's. The adult male in the photo is his grandfather who was an Engineer at the time. -- As the the people are hiding most of the car, we briefly removed them and our Tony Oakes spotted that this is a British cca 1932 Morris Major Saloon, sidevalve six. Some 14,500 were made and a number were made later for export  with bigger capacity engines.

cca 1932 Morris Major Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1933 Talbot ME75 Cabriolet
Photo posted on the AACA Forum with a request for identification. Origin of photo was France.  -- This was actually a very hard one to identify because although Talbots are well known, the 'Fulgur' range with this radiator was built for only a short time.  The car is a large vehicle as it almost dwarfs the Delahaye next to it, which is no mean car size in its own right. So, if built on the larger of two cabriolet chassis with the larger engine,  it is probably a  cca 1933  Talbot ME75  Cabriolet.

1933 Talbot ME75 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934 SS1 Saloon
Smashing photo received from Ian Orr (UK) unearthed by his son David who is investigating the history of his wife's maternal Grandmother Gloria Oliver, - whose father may have been a man of some substance and may have originated from Spain. Picture of her in a Bugatti. -- Not a Bugatti nor anything continental. It is a rather nice cca 1934 S.S.1 Saloon made by what was the Swallow Sidecar Company in 1931, SS Cars Ltd in 1933  and Jaguar Cars  in 1945.  Unusual house shape for UK?

1934 SS1 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920s Unidentified Special
Photo received from Ali Khan (India) of a car that belonged to the father of a friend who lives in the UK. The photo was taken in Westridge Rawalpind in 1931. Owner was an ace driver of the Frontier Mail train that plied between Bombay and Peshawar. The car is either a Morris or an Austin.  -- Being a 'special', it is difficult to identify. Our Austin and Morris experts agree it is neither and possibly not of English origin despite RHD.  Some suggestions that it could be an early French Derby.

1920s Unidentified Special

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:UNIDENTIFIED Two-seater
Framed photo received from Tim Barnard (UK) showing his Grandfather in a 1920s car. Grandfather was connected with the motor business and was an engineer "with Mercedes Benz" around WW1, associated with FIAT, later had the south-east concession for Galloway, had dealings with Beardmore, and made trips to the Vulcan and Arrol-Johnson. -- This one has everybody beaten including specialists from the VCC and all the readers of the Automobile. Looks French, but logo does not help.

Unidentified Two-seater

PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED: YOUR  H E L P  IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally we get stuck. Clicking on the photo on the right opens the page containing some of the earlier photos we are yet to crack ! Any help would be very much appreciated, as would any corrections. Other more recent unidentified pictures are normally at  bottom  of  each Help  Page,  above this panel.

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