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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 50 below relates to enquiries received
during
2012 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1905 Peugeot Bebe Type 69
Another photo received from John Dunn (UK)
asking for help in identifying the car.
Photo was a postcard produced by his uncle Charlie Pinchbeck who was a well
known Hull event photographer. --
Reg is Kingston-upon-Hull CBC but no
dating data available. Reg number seems to be later than the car. This
is a cca
1905 Peugeot Bebe Type 69, 1 cyl 6hp.
First Peugeot was a three wheel steamer made in 1889. In 1906 Bebe were
imported to UK by Friswell of London EC1, for £155.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907 Wolseley Siddeley Tourer
A couple of photos received from Anthony
Sparling (UK) who
is researching his family tree and has several pictures with ancestors
in their cars. Some he has identified but could we help with this one
showing his Great Grand-Uncle, Charles Pickering Hayley back to England
from Ceylon in 1912 to a Glen Eyre, Basett.--
Impressive cca 1907 Wolseley Siddeley
Tourer, 12-16 or 16 20HP, made after Herbert Austin left Wolseley and
the design was influenced by John D Siddeley.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907 Rambler Model 21 Touring
Lovely period photo received from Thomas
Gallaher (USA)
showing his Great Grandfather driving an imposing car and his
Grandmother as one of the children in the back seat. The car was
believed to be the first in Elko County, Nevada. -- Original
photo was flash photo of a picture under glass so some detail was lost
and had to be rebuilt. We are however quite sure this is a cca1907
Rambler Model 21 Touring made by
Thomas Jeffrey Co of Kenosha WI, later Nash, then American
Motors.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908_Oldsmobile Flying Roadster
Photo posted in the SVVS Magazine (UK)
showing a couple of formal chaps out for a spin in the sunshine. Can
anybody identify the car and date? -- Car
is American and was manufactured by the Olds Motor Vehicle Co in
Lansing Michigan. In 1907 the Oldsmobile
produced a single model series of ‘flying roadsters’ defined as
model H, replaced by Model MR in 1908. Both were fitted with ‘flyaway’
front mudguards and had four cylinder 5.5 litre water cooled
engines, and cost $ 2,750 in '08.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
Daimler 25HP Landaulette
Another interesting but slightly grainy photo received from Jane
Shrimpton (UK)
specialising in dating period dresses. This is one of two photos of a
chauffeur in the employ of Lord Lee of Fareham. Killed in WW1 serving
with Army Service Corps.
-- Unfortunately
the registration is not visible but the car is very much pre-WW1 with
open driver's compartment without doors, flat bulkhead and removable
headlamps. Ribbed fins define it as cca 1911 Daimler 25HP Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
FIAT Tipo Zero Spyder
Photo received from John Jack (Australia)
taken in Queensland and indicated as being 1912. Investigations by a
local genealogy group relating to Milne/Parsons family of Sunshine
Coast. --
The car looks in very
good condition so is relatively new. It could be as dated but has a
number of unusual features for a
cca 1912 Fiat Tipo Zero Spyder. Body
looks Australian, it has an unusual windscreen, snubber shocks and the
wheels have detachable rims, - presumably for simpler
tyre changing.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913 FIAT Tipo Zero Landaulettee
Another interesting but slightly grainy photo received from Jane
Shrimpton (UK)
specialising in dating period dresses. This is one of two photos of a
chauffeur in the employ of Lord Lee of Fareham. Killed WW1 serving with
Army Service Corps.
-- Registration
is not visible but the car is pre-WW1 with curved-to-flat bulkhead with
open driver's compartment with a door. Very Italian style
radiator and big oval badge indicates cca1911 FIAT Tipo Zero 4 cylinder
12'15HP Landaulette.
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RESTORATION PARTS REQUIRED:1914
Belgian Light Armoured Car
Email received from Marc Loriaux and Paul
Rillaerts (Belgium)
asking for help in locating a 1914 Mors
chassis and a 1914 Minerva engine for the reconstruction
of a 1914 Belgian armored car, a project being undertaken for the
Brussels Army Museum. Attached was a picture of a similar Belgian
light armoured vehicle built
in 1915 by the French "carrossier" Mors that they are trying
to reconstruct. They have some information from various sources but
more would still be very welcome.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914 Darracq Two-seater
Photo received from Daniel Monard (France)
asking for help in identifying this car.
No background information or date is available for this photo. --
This was another one which was actually very hard
to
identify and could not be nailed by most of our experts. However our
Tim Harding has belatedly provided a positive identification that this
is a cca
1914 Darracq Two-seater, probably a
16HP. Darracq in Paris were third largest French car makers at the time
after Renault and Peugeot.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914 Morris Oxford De Luxe
Fascinating photo received from Ken
Partridge (UK) in two stages.
The first part-photo showed the car and the second, the full photo,
showed the car is in the middle of a group of people standing on the
ice of the River Severn which had frozen over at Stourport,
Worcestershire.
The photo was taken in 1917. -- The
car is far from home as registration is Fife CC in Scotland but no
dating data remains. Pre WW1. Windscreen is non standard, but otherwise
the car is cca 1914 Morris Oxford De Luxe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915 Calthorpe 10'12 Tourer
A couple of photos received from Anthony
Sparling (UK) who
is researching his family tree and has several pictures with ancestors
in their cars. Some he has identified but could we help with this one
showing his Great Grand-Uncle, Charles Pickering Hayley back to England
from Ceylon in 1912 to a Glen Eyre, Basett.--
Registration
appears to be Birmingham 1915-19. Car is a relatively unusual cca 1915
Calthorpe 10-12HP Tourer made in Bordesley Gn, Birmingham, at
£200.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Photo received from Julian
Stephens (UK)
who is the Comp Sec of the Lost Gardens of Heligan in
Cornwall. This was the residence of the Tremayne family from
1600s until the 1970s. Was Convalescent Home in WW1.
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Our John Warburton advises this is a July
1914 built but registered Cornwall CC late
1915 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Limousine by Morgan, owned by DH Shilson of St Austell. In 1925 W
Kendall King of Topsham, and Countess of Huntingdon 1926-30. Went Edinburgh.
Gone!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
cca 1918 FIAT Charabanc
Our Dutch correspondent Fer Cools (Holland) who
often sends us very interesting photographs, bought this one at a
Belgian flea market. No idea on the make. Charabanc near
electrified railway or tramline? Tyres Michelin cablé, front wheel 10
holes 5 nuts, rear wheel reinforced. --
Not an easy one but the radiator shape is
very much later pear shaped FIAT. Front wheel hub and sloping bonnet
suggest a car based chassis; 5 wheelnuts and 5 spacers suggests the
FIAT
Tipo 2B / 52B 1912 to '20.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1922
Dort Four Roadster
Lovely period photo received from Morrie
Pringle from Ranfurly (New Zealand) asking
if we could please advise make, model, year and where this car was
made. It was apparently the first car in the Maniototo to be used by a
stock agent. -- Fortunately
the logo is evident on the radiator otherwise it may have been a little
difficult to identify. This is a car made in the USA in Flint,
Michigan; company lasted 1915 -1924. Chrome radiator and no disc
wheels indicates this is a cca
1922 Dort Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923 Galloway 10.5 Two-seater
Photo received from John Dunn (UK)
asking for help in identifying this car.
It was owned by his uncle Charlie Pinchbeck (shown) who was a well
known Hull event photographer and producer of postcards. --
Quite an unusual car made in Scotland in a
factory in Tongland, Dumfries, run by a woman, Dorothée Pullinger,
and generally staffed by women, "...a car built by ladies, for
those of their own sex....". This is a cca 1923 Galloway 10.5 Two-Seater
based on Arrol Johnson 10/20 but feminised.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1925 Dixi Limousine
Another photo received from our regular
contributor Raoul
Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany) from
a batch of photos he purchased recently on line. Do we have any idea what
this car is? -- Several
details make me think that this is very likely to be a cca 1925 Dixi
Limousine made Dixi Werke, Eisenach. Dixi was the third German company
to make cars. Merged with Gothaer Waggonfabrik and made Austin7 cars
under licence. Was purchased by BMW in 1928 making the BMW Dixi small
car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926 Lanchester 21 Landaulette
Lovely photo photo received from Davidna
Haigh from Carlyle (UK)
asking for positive identification of a car her Father used to
chauffeur in 1942. -- No registration so no dating possible.
Giveaway is the sight glass in the radiator header tank so
that the water level can easily be checked. The car is a cca 1926
Lanchester 21 Landaulette; possibly 23. Lovely 'veed' windscreen and
from flat fronted mudguards on front can establish that the body was built in-house by Lanchester
themselves.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Morris High Top Light Van
Lovely but very small photo received from John Dunn
(UK) showing
the '23 Galloway car and suggesting the van was a Morris. We thought it
was not. --
Regret we have to eat our words as this
is indeed a Morris. It is a commercial vehicle developed around the
Morris Bullnose Cowley but the rad was not good enough so they
developed what is now called a 'snub nose' radiator which was more
efficient. This is a cca
1928 Morris High Top Light Van.Dating
is from having slab rather that stepped sides.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Citroen C6 Berline
Photo received from John Jack (Australia)
taken in Queensland and indicated as being 1928. --
Investigations by a local genealogy group relating to Milne/Parsons
family of Sunshine Coast.. The car looks in good
condition, so could be relatively new, which it would need to be to be
dated 1928 because the
Citroen C6
Berline, which this is, was only
launched in Paris in October 1928, so would have to reached Australia a
bit sharpish. Interesting wire front wheels & twin
sprung bumper bars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928 Sunbeam Landaulette
Very difficult angle photo received from
Richard Langham (UK) saying
he was sorting out some old photos and came across this one featuring
possibly an aunt, taken in the 1920s. He was struck by how large
a car this was, bearing in mind that all his aunts were about
5'10".
-- Very little of the car can be
seen but the bonnet hinge looked familiar. Two of our experts confirmed
that in their view this was a big cca 1928 Sunbeam Landaulette,
possibly straight eight 30 or 35HP, -poss. earlier.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1932 Morris Major Saloon
Family group photo received from Bill
Hatton (Australia)
taken in the Calcutta/West Bengal area of India, believed around
late 1930'3 - early 1940's. The adult male in the photo is his
grandfather who was an Engineer at the time. --
As the the people are hiding most of the
car, we briefly removed them and our Tony Oakes spotted that this is a
British cca 1932 Morris Major Saloon, sidevalve six. Some 14,500 were
made and a number were made later for export with bigger capacity
engines.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1933
Talbot ME75 Cabriolet
Photo posted on the AACA Forum with a
request for identification. Origin of photo was France. --
This was actually a very hard one to
identify because although Talbots are well known, the 'Fulgur' range
with this radiator was built for only a short time. The
car is a large vehicle as it almost dwarfs the Delahaye next to it,
which is no mean car size in its own right. So, if built on the larger
of two cabriolet chassis with the larger engine, it is probably
a cca
1933 Talbot ME75 Cabriolet.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1934 SS1 Saloon
Smashing photo received from Ian Orr (UK)
unearthed by his son David who is
investigating the history of his wife's maternal Grandmother Gloria
Oliver, - whose father may have been a man of some substance and may
have originated from Spain. Picture of her in a Bugatti. --
Not a Bugatti nor anything continental. It
is a rather nice cca
1934 S.S.1 Saloon made by what was the
Swallow Sidecar Company in 1931, SS Cars Ltd in 1933 and Jaguar
Cars in 1945. Unusual house shape for UK?
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920s Unidentified Special
Photo received from Ali Khan (India)
of a car that belonged
to the father of a friend who lives in the UK. The photo was taken in
Westridge Rawalpind in 1931. Owner was an ace driver of the Frontier
Mail train that plied between Bombay and Peshawar. The car is either a
Morris or an Austin. --
Being a 'special', it is difficult to
identify. Our Austin and Morris experts agree it is neither and
possibly not of English origin despite RHD. Some suggestions that
it could be an early French Derby.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:UNIDENTIFIED Two-seater
Framed photo received from Tim Barnard (UK)
showing his Grandfather in a 1920s car.
Grandfather was connected with the motor business and was an
engineer "with Mercedes Benz" around WW1, associated with
FIAT, later had the south-east concession for Galloway, had dealings
with Beardmore, and made trips to the Vulcan and Arrol-Johnson. --
This one has everybody beaten including specialists
from the VCC and all the readers of the Automobile. Looks French, but
logo does not help.
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PHOTOS NOT YET IDENTIFIED:
YOUR
H E L P IS NEEDED PLEASE !
As can be seen from our Help Pages we
normally do succeed in identifying practically all vehicle photos which
we receive. Occasionally some photos may take time and very occasionally
we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
on the right opens the page
containing some of the earlier photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated, as would any corrections. Other
more recent unidentified pictures are normally at bottom
of each Help Page, above this panel.
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