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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year order:
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1900
Corre-Fouillaron Voiturette
Photo on the internet of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we had a go
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This one has engendered a bit of debate as a previous picture of the
same car we identified as a Corre. It looks similar to a Ceirano and
also to Fouillaron and a Renault. No known connection with Ceirano, but
Fuillaroin and Corre were joint directors of a company making quads but
also selling Renaults. Almost identical so this could well be a
Fouillaron-Corre
badged 1900 Renault C.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
cca
1907 Singer 12'14hp Tourer
Postcard photo received from
Velibor Nisevic of Novi Sad (Serbija),
researching automobilisim in Vojvodina before WW1. He believes photo was
taken post 1911 as it has a tram in it ! --
Seems the original photo has been flipped and possible the car was
superimposed. The car is very curious because the shape of the radiator with a circle
indicates the car was made in Coventry England, and is a cca 1907 Singer
12'14hp Tourer. When flipped correctly,
the car seems to have British registration.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1908
Lorraine Dietrich Charabanc
Lovely photo received from Leyland expert
Mike Sutcliffe (UK) asking
if we can help with this photo. Happy to help him where we can, as he
frequently helps us. --
We are relatively sure the vehicle is
a French cca
1908 Lorraine Dietrich Charabanc. For
1908, De Dietrich offered a line of chain-driven fours, the 18/28 hp,
28/38 hp, 40/45 hp, and 60/80 hp; this at at the upper end of the HP
band. The British version had shaft drive. That year the company
name was changed to Lorraine-Dietrich.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Wolseley Siddeley Tourer
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
!
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Quite interesting photo of a very grassy road in front of a then quite modern
house. Quite basic car body. This is cca1907
Wolseley Siddeley Tourer.
Herbert Austin had recently left, '05, to form Austin Motor
Co.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909
Belsize 14'16 Tourer
Lovely photo received from Tom Miller (UK)
advising it was taken in front of his
ancestor's family home in Dudley Road, Brierley Hill. The man in the
driving seat was his great great grandfather, Thomas Gould, a well-known
businessman in the area and believed to be the first man to own a car in
the town. --
Made in Manchester by first local car maker Marshalls who started 1897.
Changed name 1903. Flat scuttle so this is a cca 1909 Belsize 14'16
Tourer, 2543 cc 4-cylinder, made 1909 to 1913.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1910
Daimler Charabanc
Lovely photo received from Leyland expert
Mike Sutcliffe (UK) asking
if we can help with this photo. Always happy to help him where we can, as he
frequently helps us. --
Originally declared as an Unknown, subsequent searches confirmed first thoughts
of Daimler
charabanc based on a car model
rather than lorry version with the peaked rounded Daimler commercial
rad. Detail of the bonnet and the fittings have same features as found
on the big Daimler cars of cca 1910, poss 40hp.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1915
Ford Model T Touring
Interesting photo received from John Place (UK) asking
if we can help with this photo containing rear passenger, grandfather
James Place. Is it a Ford Model T Touring of
1916? --
Seems British registration AJ 5147, North Riding of Yorkshire CC, but no
dating info.
The car is indeed a Model T Ford on the changeover 1915 / 1916 with many
'15 features and many early '16 features. Electrics, front wing 'bills',
formed cowl, windscreen; in view of the angular
bonnet, we are going for late 1915.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1916
FIAT BL Military Lorry
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
!
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Well posed military photo of WW1 era showing soldiers on a well used cca 1916
FIAT BL Lorry, 5654cc. These were made
from 1911 to 192, and some military vehicles, the reinforced BLR
models, had 6,234cc engines
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922
Darracq 12 Tourer
Couple of interesting photos received from
Dan Mooney, Austin, Texas (USA),
this one showing his British grandfather in the passenger seat of a car
in the late 1920s. --
This vehicle carries an unclear London County Council registration of
1922. The vehicle was manufactured by a French company in Paris, with
offices in the UK, which became British owned during this period. Badge
shows its French origin. Corrected model information, it is
cca 1922 Darracq 12 Tourer. Became Talbot Darracq.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1923
Armstrong Siddeley Landaulette
Cinema screen grab taken from an American
film 'Three Commrades' made in 1938, where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Film is about three German WW1 soldiers post
war in love with same woman dying of tuberculosis. --
This is a big car and isstrangely for this film,
British. This is a
cca 1923 Armstrong Siddeley 18 Carlisle Three-Quarter Landaulette.
The 18 came in short and long chassis and on this car the chauffeur sat
out in the cold as was an "open drive" car. Cost £540.00.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
FIAT 501 Torpedo
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
!
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This one is of a car made in Turin, Italy, by the Fabrica Italiana
Automobili Torino which was founed 1899 and had a factory in the USA in
1908. Popular car in Italy, a cca 1923 FIAT
501 Torpedo. 47,000 made '19-26.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924 Standard 11hp Two-Seater
One of three photographs posted by Iksrognas (UK)
on the Rootschat website saying that all were taken in Wales in the
1920s. Can anyone tell the make and model of the cars. --Suggested
this was a Standard; indeed a Standard. No registration letter visible
to aid dating. From the position of the headlamps this is a cca
1924 Standard 11hp Two-Seater. There
were a number of variations on the 11hp chassis, but position of
headlamps and the flatness of the bonnet helps to
confirm the dating.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1924
Citroen Model C Cabriolet
One of three photographs posted by Iksrognas (UK)
on the Rootschat website saying that all were taken in Wales in the
1920s. Can anyone tell the make and model of the cars. --KU
6181 is Bradford County Borough Council. From the grainy photo it is
possible to mistake it for a Morris Bullnose, but this car is foreign.
This is a cca
1924 Citroen Model C Cabriolet.
Although Citroens had been imported UK since 1919, Citroen opened own
office in London in 1923 and later factory in Slough in 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928 Morris Cowley Two-Seat Tourer
One of three photographs posted by Iksrognas (UK)
on the Rootschat website saying that all were taken in Wales in the
1920s. Can anyone tell the make and model of the cars. --This
car is a
cca
1928
Morris 'Flatnose' Cowley Two Seat Tourer.
No registration letter visible to aid dating. It seems to have the
optional front brakes. These were made 1926 to 1931. The car in the
photo carries a very interesting second windscreen
with a weatherproofing lower cover for
the dickey seat.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1928
Renault Reinastella RM Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from an American
film 'Three Commrades' made in 1938, where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Film is about three German WW1 soldiers post
war in love with same woman dying of tuberculosis. --
This is a big car and is French, a cca 1928
Renault Reinastella RM Saloon. Not initially successful because of
having a rad at front, rather than back. This car has the star on rad
low down, indicating first year, but the big diamond Renault sign is
missing.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1933
American Austin Sedan
Photo passed to us by our Registrar Peter
Clark (UK) asking
if we can find out what this car could be. Guesses had been made that it
migh be a Peugeot or an Opel. -- Quite
uncommon cca
1933 American Austin Sedan, 747cc,
50mph, 40mpg made by American Austin Car Company in Butler,
Pennsylvania, licensed from the UK Austin Motor Co. Made 20,000,
bankrupt by 1934, bought by employee, renamed American Bantam who made
7,000 cars to 1941, then designed prototype Jeep!!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
Morris Eight Two Door Saloon
Surfing through the internet in attempting
to identify old vehicles we often come across photographs or old
Postcards, including those on Rootschat and those for sale on Ebay, of very interesting
ancient machinery which has not yet been identified, so we have a go
!
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This one looks a bit like a Ford Model Y Ford but is a cca
1935 Morris Eight two Door Saloon,
subsequently known as as the Series 1. It had a 918cc sidevalve engine
of 24BHP, three speed gearbox and hydraulic brakes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1936
Hotchkiss 480 Cabriolet
Cinema screen grab taken from a long
running series of Norwegian news bulletins, this one made in 1947, where cars are being
investigated by IMCDB. Bulletins are on everyday events in post war
Norway. --
The make is recognisable by the two crossed
cannons which signify the company's original occupation; arms
manufacture. American Benjamin Hotchkiss came from USA to Paris in 1875
and made cannons. First car made in 1903. This is a cca
1936 Hotchkiss 480 Cabriolet.
Closed 1971.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1936
Dennis Ace 40'45 Box Van
Interesting period photo received from
regular contributor Bill Stothard of the Cudworth Local History Group (UK) asking
if we can again help with this photo. He knows commercials are not our specialty.
-- He is
right, - but we are relatively sure we know what it is. Registration CWE
76 is Sheffield CBC of July 1936, Cudworth being nearby. The Furniture
Van has the tell tale blob on the right front which is the exposed
steering box making it c1936
Dennis Ace 40'45 Box Van.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1937
Triumph Dolomite Sports Saloon
Glam photo received from Tom Oakley (UK)
advising he is trying to identify the the
car for his father. He recently lost his mother who is on the right and
Tom would love to settle his curiosity. --
Upmarket automobile carrying a Wolverhampton CBC registration. Dating is
from the numberplate and from the slanting four sets of louvres. This is
a cca
1937 Triumph Dolomite 14'60 Sports Saloon
made in Coventry. Car was design by Donald Healey and
the waterfall grille by Walter Belgrove.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1938 AEC Regent STL
Doubledecker
Photo received from
Velibor Nisevic of Novi Sad (Serbija),
saying these 'Londoners' were used locally in 1952 and were described as
Leylands purchased from London Transport. --
Very interesting rear door not normally
seen on UK busses. Additional door/s on the 'offside' suitable for
driving on right. Mike Sutcliffe advises this is a cca
1938 AEC Regent STL, and that single
deckers on other photo were cca 1937 AEC Regal Type T and that
doubledecker shown on right was cca1947 Leyland PD1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1940
BSA M20 Motorcycle
Couple of interesting photos received from
Dan Mooney, Austin, Texas (USA),
this one showing his British grandfather riding a motorcycle during WW2.
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This vehicle carries a British Army registration of 'C' for motorcycle.
Our motorcycle experts confirm this is a
cca 1940 BSA M20. BSA and Norton
were suppliers of motorcycles to the War Office in WW11. The BSA M20
became the leading service model 1937 to 1955; 469cc single cylinder
side valve, speed 55 - 60mph. Over 125,000 made.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown
c1900_Two-seater
Couple of small fascinating photos received from
Velibor Nisevic of Novi Sad (Serbija),
researching automobilisim in Vojvodina before WW1. He has doubts about
some of the information available and believes that the first car in
Novi Sad was a 1901 De Dion Bouton. What is this vehicle? --
Car looks superimposed on postcard. Photo is very small and blurred so
not possible to pull out details for identification. Very tall
bonnet and long dumbirons. One of the less
known European makes.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Unknown
c1920 Charabanc
Lovely photo received from Leyland expert
Mike Sutcliffe (UK) asking
if we can help with this photo. Always happy to help him where we can, as he
frequently helps us. --
However, in this case we find that we cannot get a match for this
vehicle. The charabanc is actually very basic and seems to be a WW1
lorry fitted with longitudinal benches.
Normally bodies would be made by
others so identification of chassis depends on bonnet and radiator.
Sloping bonnet should help. Any
Help Welcome !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unknown
American Chassis
Frustrating set of photos received from Jeff Demuth (USA)
asking if someone tell what car this was? Thinking late 1920's,
possible a truck back in the 1940'. When grandfather bought farm it was
already there and he used it as a wagon for a time. All the rims are
tires are present, brake drums and rear differential turn freely.
Letter "D" on the differential. Hate to scrap if any good.
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Regret too specialised for us so we
suggested he contacts the AACA.
Any help would be welcome !
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