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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Probably
c1909 Charron Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand)
was intrigued by this photo he found on the internet and wondered if it
is an early Reanault. So he sent it to us for our thoughts. -- Very
dramatic and moody photograph evocative of era. Probably not a Renault
although many pointers would suggest otherwise. There were quite a few
cars in period with rear radiators and coalscuttle bonnets, including
some made in UK. From the rad side pattern, more likely a
cca 1909 Charron Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1905 Matheson 24HP Roadster
Another photograph posted on AACA
website by Dosmo (USA) saying any help
would be appreciated in identifying this vehicle. --
Little research on the interner determuned that by all accounts this
seems to be Tom Cooper driving a 24
horsepower Matheson during the 1905
Long Island Auto Club Run. Matheson Automobile Company was a small
bespoke automaker from Grand Rapids, Michigan, then Holyoke,
Massachusetts, later Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. Operative 1903-1912.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1907
Pope Toledo Type 12 Tourer
Couple of unclear period photos received from
Ralph Scott (USA)
which we have repaired and enhanced. They are researching family's
history and have these two old photos of cars they cannot identify,
probably taken 1900 to 1910 in Boston, MA. -- The
earlier of the two cars, and from the slightly rounded radiator profile
this is a
cca 1907 Pope Toledo Type 12. Based on
the earlier 'Toledo' of the International Motor Co of Toledo, became
part of the Colonel AA Pope empire from 1903 to 1909.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1910
Hotckiss 45'50 Tourer
Couple of unclear period photos received from
Ralph Scott (USA)
which we have repaired and enhanced. They are researching family's
history and have these two old photos of cars they cannot identify,
probably taken 1900 to 1910 in Boston, MA. --
Interesting car for USA because it was made in Saint-Denis, Paris,
France, by an arms manufacturer who started in Hartford USA with Colt
revolvers. Moved to France 1897. From bonnet and number of
ridges, a cca
1910 Hotckiss 45'50 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1911
Sunbeam 12'16 Double Phaeton
Interesting photo found on the Scotiaweb
website relating to the Scottish Argyll Motors sent in by Melanie
Winterbotham asking if this is an Argyll driven by her grandmother Enid
Lilley, probably before WWI. -- Number
of pointers against it being a Argyll; wrong shape dumbirons and wheel hubs.
Coachwork cutoff on scuttle suggests period of 1910'11. We think this
is a Wolverhampton built cca
1911 Sunbeam 12'16 Double Phaeton Torpedo.
Name comes from 1888 make bicycles.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1915
Wolseley 24'30 Staff Car
Interesting photo found on the Scotiaweb
website relating to the Scottish Argyll Motors sent in by Mark Pearson
asking if this is an Argyll driven by his Grandfather in France during
the Great War. -- Regret
no, not an Argyll but a car made in Birmingham by a Vickers combine in conjunction
with Herbert Austin. Wolseley Tool and Motor Car Company was
incorporated 1901 and by 1913 was Britain's largest car manufacturer.
This is a cca
1915 Wolseley 24'30 Staff Car, six cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1919
Talbot 25'50 Tourer
Another lovely period photo received from Alun
Pugh of Leeds (UK)
who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo?
It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me
before!" --
Humpy radiator suggests the Talbot range of cars. Originally French,
the London end of Clement became Clement Talbot based in Kensington. By
1904 bodies were British, engines French. Darracq bought company 1919.
Low lights and no tie bar suggest a cca
1919 Talbot 25'50 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Humber 10 HP Two-seater
Another photograph received from
Philip Clarke (UK) saying' You have been kind enough to date several photographs for me in the
past. Pphotograph was taken outside of the Post in Roydon, which is a
small village a mile to the West of Diss, Norfolk. I understand that it
dates from around 1920, or maybe a little earlier. However, I know
nothing about the car. --
No registration visible to confirm dating but car is cca
1919 Humber 10 HP Two-seat and Dickey,
or is possibly just pre-WW1.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1920
Ford Model T Pick-up
Another lovely period photo received from Alun
Pugh of Leeds (UK)
who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo?
It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me
before!" --The
registration is U 7015, which would be late 1920 Leeds CBC; hence
Yorkshire Post newspaper, founded 1754 ! Car identification
features are no front dumbirons so transverse springing, upwardly
dished steering wheel, and six louvres. This is a cca
1920 Ford Model T Pick-up.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1920
AV Monocar Cyclecar
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
found this intriguing photo in an old East Sussex parish
magazine. Probably taken in the early 1920's. Looks like a Bedelia
cyclecar , but no belt drive on the nearside; ..any ideas? --
Yes, have already had one on our Help Page
54. John Carden sold Carden
Engineering to Ward & Avey who carried on with the Carden but also
made a new car on the same design, the
1919/24 AV Monocar. This a
single seater with an overhanging rear air cooled 5 or 8hp engine.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1921
Calthorpe 10hp Tourer
Puzzling period photo received from Lou
Page (UK)
of Grandfather, with Great Grandmother and a bored looking Great
Grandfather in the rear seats. No idea on make model of car, but
suggestion it may be foreign? My Great Grandfather had Leather Goods
business in Birmingham and my Grandfather continued it. -- Looked
British, initially difficult to identify despite split louvres on the bonnet,
until one of our wise sages advised it a cca 1921 Calthorpe 10hp
Tourer, made in Birmingham UK.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1924
Standard 11'145 Tourer
Another lovely period photo received from Alun
Pugh of Leeds (UK)
who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo?
It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me
before!" --The
registration is difficult to read but appears to be NW 6806, which
would be c1924 Leeds CBC. Identification features are the bump on the
rad containing a Union Jack and Roman Legion mascot, wrap-round rad
matrix, four louvres, no front brakes, a cca
1924 Standard 11'14 Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1927
Morris Cowley Flatnose Saloon
Another lovely period photo received from Alun
Pugh of Leeds (UK)
who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo?
It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me
before!" --
UM 9360 is a Leeds CBC registration early 1927. Our Chas Moody, who has
one, advises that this is a cca
1927 Morris Cowley Flatnose Saloon.
Flatnose followed the earlier bullnose radiator. One of the differences
with the similar Oxford is that lights do not have a dipping mechanism.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927
Auburn 6-66 Touring
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
the vehicle is? --
American car again, built by a company that grew out of Eckhart
Carriage Company founded in 1900 which had been bought out by E L Cord
in 1924. From the radiator with no division bar we can date this to a cca
1927 Auburn 6-66 Touring. Company
closed 1937 and headquarters is now museum.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1930 Ford Model A Panel Delivery Van
Another photograph received from
Philip Clarke (UK) saying' You have been kind enough to date several photographs for me in the
past. This is a unused postcard of Mere Street, in Diss, Norfolk. From
James Valentine serial number 211187, this card was first registered
with Post Office 1930. --
Car registration is GJ 7547, London County Council June 1930. The photo
is small so clarity not good but we think the van was American
built, pre UK, a cca
1930 Ford Model A Panel Delivery Truck.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Chevrolet Six AD Phaeton
One of a number of interesting photos sent to us by
Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who
is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this vehicle photographed
in the USSR in July 1930? -- This
vehicle had been manufactured in USA in Detroit, Michigan, by
company started in 1911 and co-founded by a Swiss bicycle and later car
racing driver. Eventually became part of General Motors. Small number
of louvers at back of bonnet advise that this is cca 1930 Chevrolet Six
AD Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1933 Armstrong Siddeley Saloon
Poor photo-of-a-photo from
Ian Howick (UK) of
Grandfather George Howick, Chauffeur to Ayerst Henham Hooker awarded
Queen's Gold Medal for Gallantry & Humanity after having saved the
lives of hundreds of Egyptians from a terrible Cholera outbreak.--
Registration APF 627 is Surrey CC
issue of April 1933. No longer in DVLA Records. Car would seem to be
a cca
1933 Armstrong Siddeley 15 or 20 Saloon
but assistance from the cca
1933 Armstrong Siddeley 15 or 20 Saloon
but assistance from the Armstrong
Siddeley Owners received no reply.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1939
Bianchi VM 6C Staff Car
Cinema screen grab taken from a French
documentary "Apocalypse: La 2ème Guerre Mondiale" made in
2009 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. -- A
'Coloniale' car by Italian makers for WW2, including Fiat, Lancia, Alfa
and Bianchi. This is the top of the range cca
1939 Bianchi VM 6C, one of 100 made,
based on the S6. Introduced January 1938 as a liaison car for the
Italian high command. This one, RE 2749, was used by Benito Mussolini
for tour on the Alpine front in June 1940.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1940
Auto-Union'Horch 108 1A KFZ40
Cinema screen grab taken from a French
documentary "Apocalypse: La 2ème Guerre Mondiale" made in
2009 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. -- One
of the range of Personnenkraftwage vehicles made by German car makers for
WW2. From the amidships machine gun and slanted rear doors, this is a cca
1940 Auto-Union'Horch 108 1A KFZ40
frequently used to tow a 2cm flak 38. Three levels of PKW were made,
Light, Medium and Heavy. This is from the heavy Schwerer V8 3L range.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: c1940
Austin 8AP Military Tourer
Intriguing period photo received from Kate
Martin (UK)
who would love to know make/model of her family's first car bought in
1954 (second hand probably) and kept until 1966. She has many fond
memories of it; registration number - EG 9496. -- Registration
is Stoke of Peterborough late 1949; which is odd because the car is a
WW2 'Tilly', an Austin
8AP Military Tourer built for Royal
Army Service as staff cars and recognised by two rear vertical louvres.
Probably a post-hostility war-surplus sale.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1948 Triumph 2000 Roadster
Another photograph received from
Philip Clarke (UK) saying' You have been kind enough to date several photographs for me in the
past. I know that the person shown is Jack Jones, who was the manager
of the Picture House in Diss for many years until the late 1960s. From
his age, I would estimate that the photograph was taken in the 1950s.
However, I know nothing about his car.-- Registration
is Norfolk CC December 1948 so car would be the Triumph
2000 Roadster, not the earlier
1800.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1949
Ford Tudor Coupe
Puzzling photo taken about ten years ago
in Canada and received from Avi Mayasato (UK)
who would love to know make/model of this car his sister was driven in
from the church on her wedding day. She has no idea what it is, nor
does her husband. -- Photos
of cars taken from the back tend to be more difficult to identify but
the car is definitely American, built in Detroit. From the small round
visible petrol filler cap, two doors but rear quarter-lights, this is a
cca
1949 Ford Tudor Coupe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1950
Lancia Ardea Saloon
Interesting photo sent to us by George
Layton, not of Bracciano (Italy),
asking if we could advise make and model of car spotted in Italy.
-- Registration
advises the province of Macerata, of which Macerata is the capital; not
far from the costal town of Ancona. The car is also Italian, one of
32,000 manufactured between 1939 and 1953 in four series. This is
reputed to have the smallest private car V4 engine made and is fourth
series cca 1950 Lancia Ardea
Saloon, - all right hand drive.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
Propert Bodied Sports Car
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
has been tidying up hise study and came across this untitled
picture in an old motor magazine. Believed to have been taken in
Australia.; ..any ideas? -- Some!
Not entirely clear on the maker of the chassis but the coachbuilder for
car and caravan was the Australian Propert
company of Vaucluse, Sydney. Founded
1910, made light caravans 1940 and Patent Folding Caravan
1950/60s. They also made coachwork for all types of busses and cars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified
Lorry in Romania
Another fascinating photograph from our
regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania. Do we know what
the vehicle is? -- None of our experts could nail it.
Lorry cab looks a very home-made 'special'
without much finesse of the finish. Right hand drive steering and is
rear chain drive. Looks like vertical letters on the upper radiator.
French 'feel', possibly a Delahaye from before the war modernised
with disc wheels.
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