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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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Page112 below relates to enquiries received during 2017Click on picture to enlarge
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably c1909 Charron Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) was intrigued by this photo he found on the internet and wondered if it is an early Reanault. So he sent it to us for our thoughts. --  Very dramatic and moody photograph evocative of era. Probably not a Renault although many pointers would suggest otherwise. There were quite a few cars in period with rear radiators and coalscuttle bonnets, including some made in UK. From the rad side pattern, more likely a cca 1909 Charron Tourer.

Probably c1909 Charron Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1905 Matheson 24HP Roadster
Another photograph posted on AACA website by Dosmo (USA) saying any help would be appreciated in identifying this vehicle. -- Little research on the interner determuned that by all accounts this seems to be Tom Cooper driving a 24 horsepower Matheson during the 1905 Long Island Auto Club Run. Matheson Automobile Company was a small bespoke automaker from Grand Rapids, Michigan, then Holyoke, Massachusetts, later Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. Operative 1903-1912.

1905 Matheson 24HP Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1907 Pope Toledo Type 12 Tourer
Couple of unclear period photos received from Ralph Scott (USA) which we have repaired and enhanced. They are researching family's history and have these two old photos of cars they cannot identify, probably taken 1900 to 1910 in Boston, MA. --  The earlier of the two cars, and from the slightly rounded radiator profile this is a cca 1907 Pope Toledo Type 12. Based on the earlier 'Toledo' of the International Motor Co of Toledo, became part of the Colonel AA Pope empire from 1903 to 1909.

1907 Pope Toledo Type 12 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1910 Hotckiss 45'50 Tourer
Couple of unclear period photos received from Ralph Scott (USA) which we have repaired and enhanced. They are researching family's history and have these two old photos of cars they cannot identify, probably taken 1900 to 1910 in Boston, MA. --   Interesting car for USA because it was made in Saint-Denis, Paris, France, by an arms manufacturer who started in Hartford USA with Colt revolvers. Moved to France 1897.  From bonnet and number of  ridges,  a cca 1910 Hotckiss 45'50 Tourer.

1910 Hotckiss 45'50 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1911 Sunbeam 12'16  Double Phaeton
Interesting photo found on the Scotiaweb website relating to the Scottish Argyll Motors sent in by Melanie Winterbotham asking if this is an Argyll driven by her grandmother Enid Lilley, probably before WWI.  -- Number of pointers against it being a Argyll; wrong shape dumbirons and wheel hubs. Coachwork cutoff on scuttle suggests period of 1910'11. We think this is a Wolverhampton built cca 1911 Sunbeam 12'16  Double Phaeton Torpedo. Name comes from 1888 make bicycles.

1911 Sunbeam 12'16  Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Wolseley 24'30 Staff Car
Interesting photo found on the Scotiaweb website relating to the Scottish Argyll Motors sent in by Mark Pearson asking if this is an Argyll driven by his Grandfather in France during the Great War.  -- Regret no, not an Argyll but a car made in Birmingham by a Vickers combine in conjunction with Herbert Austin. Wolseley Tool and Motor Car Company was incorporated 1901 and by 1913 was Britain's largest car manufacturer. This is a cca 1915 Wolseley 24'30 Staff Car, six cylinder.

c1915 Wolseley 24'30 Staff Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1919 Talbot 25'50 Tourer
Another lovely period photo received from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo? It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me before!"  --   Humpy radiator suggests the Talbot range of cars. Originally French, the London end of Clement became Clement Talbot based in Kensington. By 1904 bodies were British, engines French. Darracq bought company 1919. Low lights and no tie bar suggest a cca 1919 Talbot 25'50 Tourer.

1919 Talbot 25'50 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919 Humber 10 HP Two-seater
Another photograph received from Philip Clarke (UK) saying' You have been kind enough to date several photographs for me in the past. Pphotograph was taken outside of the Post in Roydon, which is a small village a mile to the West of Diss, Norfolk. I understand that it dates from around 1920, or maybe a little earlier. However, I know nothing about the car. -- No registration visible to confirm dating but car is cca 1919 Humber 10 HP Two-seat and Dickey, or is possibly just pre-WW1.

1919 Humber 10 HP Two-seater & Dickey

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 Ford Model T Pick-up
Another lovely period photo received from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo? It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me before!"  --The registration is U 7015, which would be late 1920 Leeds CBC; hence Yorkshire Post newspaper, founded 1754 !  Car identification features are no front dumbirons so transverse springing, upwardly dished steering wheel, and six louvres. This is a cca 1920 Ford Model T Pick-up.

1920 Ford Model T Pick-up

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1920 AV Monocar Cyclecar
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK)
found this intriguing photo in an old East Sussex parish magazine. Probably taken in the early 1920's. Looks like a Bedelia cyclecar , but no belt drive on the nearside; ..any ideas? -- Yes, have already had one on our Help Page 54. John Carden sold Carden Engineering to Ward & Avey who carried on with the Carden but also made a new car on the same design, the 1919/24 AV Monocar. This a single seater with an overhanging rear air cooled 5 or 8hp engine.

c1920 AV Monocar Single-Seater Cyclecar

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921 Calthorpe 10hp Tourer
Puzzling period photo received from Lou Page (UK) of Grandfather, with Great Grandmother and a bored looking Great Grandfather in the rear seats. No idea on make model of car, but suggestion it may be foreign? My Great Grandfather had Leather Goods business in Birmingham and my Grandfather continued it. -- Looked British, initially difficult to identify despite split louvres on the bonnet, until one of our wise sages advised it a cca 1921 Calthorpe 10hp Tourer,  made in Birmingham UK.

1921 Calthorpe 10hp Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1924 Standard 11'145 Tourer
Another lovely period photo received from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo? It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me before!"  --The registration is difficult to read but appears to be NW 6806, which would be c1924 Leeds CBC. Identification features are the bump on the rad containing a Union Jack and Roman Legion mascot, wrap-round rad matrix, four louvres, no front brakes, a cca 1924 Standard 11'14 Tourer.

1924 Standard 11'14 Open Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1927 Morris Cowley Flatnose Saloon
Another lovely period photo received from Alun Pugh of Leeds (UK) who asks if we could possibly ID the car in the attached photo? It is dated 1929. Keep up the good work! "You have helped me before!"  --   UM 9360 is a Leeds CBC registration early 1927. Our Chas Moody, who has one, advises that this is a  cca 1927 Morris Cowley Flatnose Saloon. Flatnose followed the earlier bullnose radiator. One of the differences with the similar Oxford is that lights do not have a dipping mechanism.

1927 Morris Cowley Flatnose Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927 Auburn 6-66 Touring
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the vehicle is?  --  American car again, built by a company that grew out of Eckhart Carriage Company founded in 1900 which had been bought out by E L Cord in 1924. From the radiator with no division bar we can date this to a cca 1927 Auburn 6-66 Touring. Company closed 1937 and headquarters is now museum.

1927 Auburn 6-66 Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1930 Ford Model A Panel Delivery Van
Another photograph received from Philip Clarke (UK) saying' You have been kind enough to date several photographs for me in the past. This is a unused postcard of Mere Street, in Diss, Norfolk. From James Valentine serial number 211187, this card was first registered with Post Office 1930. -- Car registration is GJ 7547, London County Council June 1930. The photo is small so clarity not good but we think the van was American built,  pre UK,  a cca 1930 Ford Model A Panel Delivery Truck. 

1930 Ford Model A Panel Delivery Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Chevrolet Six AD Phaeton
One of a number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos. Can we identify this vehicle photographed in the USSR in July 1930?  -- This vehicle had been manufactured  in USA in Detroit, Michigan, by company started in 1911 and co-founded by a Swiss bicycle and later car racing driver. Eventually became part of General Motors. Small number of louvers at back of bonnet advise that this is cca 1930 Chevrolet Six AD Phaeton.

1930 Chevrolet Six AD Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1933 Armstrong Siddeley Saloon
Poor photo-of-a-photo
from Ian Howick (UK) of Grandfather George Howick, Chauffeur to Ayerst Henham Hooker awarded Queen's Gold Medal for Gallantry & Humanity after having saved the lives of hundreds of Egyptians from a terrible Cholera outbreak.--  Registration APF 627 is Surrey CC issue of April 1933. No longer in DVLA Records. Car would seem to be a cca 1933 Armstrong Siddeley 15 or 20 Saloon but assistance from the  cca 1933 Armstrong Siddeley 15 or 20 Saloon but assistance from the  Armstrong Siddeley Owners received no reply.

1933 Armstrong Siddeley Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1939 Bianchi VM 6C Staff Car
Cinema screen grab taken from a French documentary "Apocalypse: La 2ème Guerre Mondiale" made in 2009 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. -- A 'Coloniale' car by Italian makers for WW2, including Fiat, Lancia, Alfa and Bianchi. This is the top of the range cca 1939 Bianchi VM 6C, one of 100 made, based on the S6. Introduced January 1938 as a liaison car for the Italian high command. This one, RE 2749, was used by Benito Mussolini for tour on the Alpine front in June 1940. 

Mussolini in a 1939 Bianchi VM 6C Staff Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1940 Auto-Union'Horch 108 1A KFZ40
Cinema screen grab taken from a French documentary "Apocalypse: La 2ème Guerre Mondiale" made in 2009 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. -- One of the range of Personnenkraftwage vehicles made by German car makers for WW2. From the amidships machine gun and slanted rear doors, this is a cca 1940 Auto-Union'Horch 108 1A KFZ40 frequently used to tow a 2cm flak 38. Three levels of PKW were made, Light, Medium and Heavy. This is from the heavy Schwerer V8 3L range.

1940 Auto-Union'Horch 108 1A KFZ40

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1940 Austin 8AP Military Tourer
Intriguing period photo received from Kate Martin (UK) who would love to know make/model of her family's first car bought in 1954 (second hand probably) and kept until 1966. She has many fond memories of it; registration number - EG 9496. -- Registration is Stoke of Peterborough late 1949; which is odd because the car is a WW2 'Tilly', an Austin 8AP Military Tourer built for Royal Army Service as staff cars and recognised by two rear vertical louvres. Probably a post-hostility war-surplus sale.

c1940 Austin 8AP Military Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1948 Triumph 2000 Roadster
Another photograph received from Philip Clarke (UK) saying' You have been kind enough to date several photographs for me in the past. I know that the person shown is Jack Jones, who was the manager of the Picture House in Diss for many years until the late 1960s. From his age, I would estimate that the photograph was taken in the 1950s. However, I know nothing about his car.-- Registration is Norfolk CC December 1948 so car would be the Triumph 2000 Roadster, not the earlier 1800.  

1948 Triumph 2000 Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1949 Ford Tudor Coupe
Puzzling photo taken about ten years ago in Canada and received from Avi Mayasato (UK) who would love to know make/model of this car his sister was driven in from the church on her wedding day. She has no idea what it is, nor does her husband. -- Photos of cars taken from the back tend to be more difficult to identify but the car is definitely American, built in Detroit. From the small round visible petrol filler cap, two doors but rear quarter-lights, this is a cca 1949 Ford Tudor Coupe

1949 Ford Tudor Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1950 Lancia Ardea Saloon
Interesting photo sent to us by George Layton, not of Bracciano (Italy), asking if we could advise make and model of car spotted in Italy.  -- Registration advises the province of Macerata, of which Macerata is the capital; not far from the costal town of Ancona. The car is also Italian, one of 32,000 manufactured between 1939 and 1953 in four series. This is reputed to have the smallest private car V4 engine made and is fourth series cca 1950 Lancia Ardea Saloon, - all right hand drive.

1950 Lancia Ardea Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Propert Bodied Sports Car
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) has b
een tidying up hise study and came across this untitled picture in an old motor magazine. Believed to have been taken in Australia.; ..any ideas? -- Some! Not entirely clear on the maker of the chassis but the coachbuilder for car and caravan was the Australian Propert company of Vaucluse, Sydney. Founded 1910, made light caravans 1940 and  Patent Folding Caravan 1950/60s. They also made coachwork for all types of busses and cars.

Propert Bodied Sports Car

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified Lorry in Romania
Another fascinating photograph from our regular contributor Cicos Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania) who is interested in old cars of Romania.  Do we know what the vehicle is?  --  None of our experts could nail it. Lorry cab l
ooks a very home-made 'special' without much finesse of the finish. Right hand drive steering and is rear chain drive. Looks like vertical letters on the upper radiator. French 'feel', possibly a  Delahaye from before the war modernised with disc wheels. 

Unidentified Lorry in Romania
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