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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1910 Clement Talbot Dropside Lorry
Another lovely photo submitted by Leif Holmberg (Sweden) asking for ID. He is helping the Torsakers Photohistoric Society to identify cars and motorcycles. Used in WW1 and had bullet holes. Became brewery truck 1916. -- Lorry was was probably built in England. Adolphe Clement originally made various cars in France but sold a part of the company to a British company Clement Talbot which became a big operation post 1906. Pre WW1 and seems a  cca 1910 Clement Talbot  Dropside  Lorry.

c1910 Clement Talbot  Dropside  Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Perhaps 1911 Aquila-Italiana Roadster
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this lovely photo?
-- Our experts agree, probably Italian and not one of the well known names. Our Ariejan Boss has an interesting theory that this is a cca 1911 Aquila-Italiana Roadster. Aquila were based in Turin and the cars were designed by  Giulio  Cesare  Cappa;  hence name 'CESAR'??

Perhaps  c1911 Aquilla-Italaina Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1912 De Dion Bouton Open Carriage
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- Registration is not visible so dating not possible.  From the Ffiske family albums, who lived in Brundall and were involved in the development of the Boulton & Paul Aircraft company. Photo is tagged 'T Doean' car, which could be a Historic phonetic mis-hearing corruption of De Dion !  The car is a  cca 1912 De Dion Bouton  8HP  Open Carriage.

1912 De Dion Bouton 8HP Open Carriage

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- No registration visible but identified by our Tom Clarke as a cca 1913 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost Muhlbacher Brougham, car number 2658. Earlier photos indicate the car was then owned by J Hurst and registered HO4111 (Southampton 1920?) but photographed in London by photographer in Greek Street. Later used as Hire Car into the 1930s.

1913 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost Muhlbacher Brougham

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer
Recently seen on the Rootschat website asking for identification. Discussion that it might be British, and a Crossley.  --  No, this is not a Crossley. This is indeed a British made car but with many additions which were not factory standard, such as bodywork windscreen and mudguards. Probably shipped out as a chassis and had a local body put on along the factory pattern. It is cca 1914 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer  which was a  quality car  in competition  with Rolls Royce. In 1914 £350. 

1914 Sunbeam 12'16 Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1915 Ford Model T Van
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- From the Philps/Cooper family albums, 'Stockings, Purveyors, St Stephens St, Norwich'. Purveyor is supplier of food, in this case Butchers. The car is a very popular American origin vehicle. The bonnet is square so pre 1916. Likely a cca 1915 Ford Model T Van. Ford started  UK  assembly 1911.  The first British Model T van made in 1914. 

1915 Ford Model T Van

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly c1918 Ford Model T Special
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this French photo?
-- This batch is proving quite difficult and we do not have a positive identification. However, I feel this is a much modified cca 1918 Ford Model T Special Tourer. No front spring hanger visible, dished steering wheel, wheels, headlamps; many were modified.

Possibly c1918 Ford Model T Special Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1920 International Harvester 8'16
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- A tractor of American origin manufactured in Chicago. Unusual sloping bonnet and radiator behind the engine identifies this as a cca 1920 International Harvester 8'16 Junior. This range was made 1918 to 1922 and was developed in three engine sizes not externally distinguishable. UK offices 1906. About 2,500 were imported to the UK.

1920 International Harvester 8'16 Junior Tractor

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1921 Ford Model TT Charabanc
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- Registration seems EX which would be Great Yarmouth from which the tour stared and went to Brundall Gardens. The car is a very popular American origin vehicle. The bonnet is rounded so post 1916, demountable rims, and long chassis. Likely a cca 1921 Ford Model TT Charabanc. LHD so probably made in USA, introduced 1917.  Coachbuilt.

1921 Ford Model TT Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1923 Daimler TB 6-21 Two Seater
Another lovely photo submitted by Leif Holmberg (Sweden) asking for ID. He had also posted this one on the AACA forum where he was advised this is a 1923 Daimler TB 6-21 Two Seater, a well known Swedish car with royal past, recently owned by artist Erik Rafael Råberg. Part restored Shown in Automobile Museum in Koping and on show in the Koping Auto Museum . -- A check in my data came up with a very similar bodied car described as a  Daimler 20HP  Two-seater, made 1921/1923.

1923 Daimler TB 6-21 Two Seater

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Citroen B10 Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this French photo?
-- Lac Chambon is in the centre of France so not surprising this is a French car built in centre of Paris. This is a cca 1925 Citroen B10 Saloon, which was similar to the B2 and was replaced by the B12. Was very fist range of European cars to be mass produced.

1925 Citroen B10 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926 Adler 6'25 Limousine
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this German photo?
-- The logo on the badge located below top of the radiator is of a flying eagle. German for eagle is Adler. Adler made cars and motorcycles 1900 to 1957. From the vertical louvres and small circle wheelnuts this would seem to be a cca 1926 Adler 6'25 Limousine.

1926 Adler 6'25 Limousine

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928 FIAT Charabanc
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this French photo?
-- Photo has notation 'Le pont du Loup, 1929', close to Nice and Italian border. This railway bridge used by Queen Victoria on holiday was blown up by the Germans in 1944. Difficult, but we think it is an  Italian  rather  magnificently  outfitted  cca 1928  FIAT  Charabanc.

1928 FIAT Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1929 Citroen AC4 Taxi
Cinema screen grab from a French film "Ils étaient neuf célibataires"  (Nine Batchelors) made in 1939 where the cars are being investigated by IMCDB. Film is about an opportunist scheming to make money after French gouvernment introduces law forbidding foreigners living in France.  --  The photo is very dark but we can just make out a taximeter and letters ..OE.. on the radiator and are relatively sure this is a French Citroen,  shortish bonnet,  so likely to be a cca 1928'9 Citroen AC4 Taxi.

1929 Citroen AC4 Taxi

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930 Hanomag 3'16 Cabriolet
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this German photo?
-- This is a German car made in Hanover by a major steam railway engine manufacturer who diversified into economy cars in 1925 making the famous' Komisbrot' model. This is the successor, a cca 1930 Hanomag 3'16 Cabriolet with an external dickey seat; 1929-31.

1930 Hanomag 3'16 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1931 Standard Avon Sports Coupe
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- Registration is GO 3896 which is London County Council March 1931. The car is an attractive Coupe which resembles the Sunbeam of the period. Our experts however advised this was a cca 1931 Standard Avon, probably the 1287cc. Standard Motor Co, Coventry,  made the chassis  and  Avon Body Co, Warwick, made body.

1931 Standard Avon Sports Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1931 Adler Favorit Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this German photo?
-- The logo on the badge and the mascot on the radiator cap are of a flying eagle. German for eagle is Adler. Adler made cars and motorcycles 1900 to 1957. This is a cca 1931 Adler Favorit Saloon. Adler went out of cars after WW2 .Became Grundig 1957, then Olivetti.

1931 Adler Favorit Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1932 Armstrong Siddeley Economy 12
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- Registration of car on right is NG which is Norfolk CC 1932. Advised by Simon Pearce that Armstrong Siddeley introduced the flattish radiator grille which replaced the rather flash vee-radiators on the cca 1932 Armstrong Siddeley Economy 12 Saloon which was not in production for  all that long.  On the left is a  cca  1935  Morris  8  Saloon.

1932 Armstrong Siddeley Economy 12

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932 Citroen Charabanc
Number of interesting pictures sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying he is a collector of old photos.-- Gorgeous photo showing 1933 Monte Carlo. Note the railway line where the FI tunnel is now, no high rise blocks, no swimming pool, and no Fontvieille offshore town. The Casino already has pride of place as does Hotel de Paris, and Oceanographic Museum. Difficult angle to be positive, but we think this is a  cca 1932 Citroen Charabanc, possibly on a C4G Camionette chassis. 

1932 Citroen Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1933 Lanchester 10 Saloon
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   -- Registration is not visible so precise dating not possible.  From the Brundall Gardens album, headed Redclyffe House 1935. Our Tony Oakes advised 'the car is a Lanchester 10. A well made but very dull car made after the take-over by Daimler. First marketed in 1932,  and this looks like  an early one.'   Shared the  chassis  with the  BSA 10.

 1933 Lanchester 10 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1936 Mercedes Benz 200 Cabriolet
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en. Can we ID Romanian photo?
-- The three pointed star, introduced 1909 by Daimler's sons, which depicts domination over land, sea and air, can be seen on the radiator and on the wheel hub covers. These covers are relatively large in diameter suggesting this a  cca  1936  Mercedes Benz  200  Cabriolet.

1936 Mercedes Benz 200 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1937 Ford Model Y Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this German photo?
-- This is a cca 1937 Ford Model Y Saloon . Made in the UK they were Ford 8, made in Germany were Ford Koln, and in France they were Ford 6CV. Made generally between 1933-1937. This seems to have a UK style registration, if so then Dublin CBC (Rep. Ireland) c1937.

1937 Ford Model Y Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1951 Opel Olympia Two-Door Saloon
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this German photo?
-- From a long line of cars models made between 1935 and 1970. From the wrap-round grille and flared-in  high headlamps this is from the third incarnation of the Olympia dynasty. This is a cca 1951 Opel Olympia Two-Door Saloon 1.5 litre, made 1950 to 1953 at 6400 DM

1951 Opel Olympia Two-Door Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified c1914 Charabanc
Photo found on the Brundall Archive website (UK) while trawling the internet on another subject. They were asking for identification of the vehicle.   --  This is a Charabanc, a name used to describe horse drawn and ealy open top coaches with rows of simle seats; from French for coach with wooden benches. Early motorised charabancs were generally coachbuilt bodies on lorry chassis, many probaly based on ex War Department  WW1  trucks.  Photo  not  quite  clear enough  to  identify.

Unidentified c1914 Charabanc

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Unidentified c1935 Coach
Number of interesting photos sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) saying he is a collector of old photos and who has a website devoted to this subject at http://antique-photos.com/en/. Can we identify this French photo?
-- No positive responses from any of our experts. This shape of bus front was very popular on a number of European bus manufacturers in the 1933-1938 pre WW2 period but despite  much  searching, we have found  no match  for  radiator shape. 

Unidentified c1935 Coach
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