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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
Page159
below relates to enquiries received
during
2020 Click
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SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,000 Enquiries
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1900
Fouillaron 3.5HP Voiturette
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
the AACA by Tim Martin requesting identification. -- This
is a photographer's prop car as we have other pictures of car with
different people in it. Looks similar to Ceirano, Corre and
Fouillaron,and a Renault. Fuillaroin and Corre were joint directors of
a company making quads but also selling Renaults. Multiple rows/louvres,
offset crank handle, so is a cca
1900 Corre-Fouillaron 3.5HP Voiturette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1903
Darracq 8HP Tonneau
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a NZ Facebook page requesting identification Taken in 1903 at the old
government house in Auckland. Darracq? -- Confused
by number louvres on the bonnet but our Ariejan Bos clarified that
8hp 1 cyl. often had only 6 louvres, and the 12hp
2 cyl. had 8. He found earlier 6(.5) hp models, with 7 louvres. However
he found a match in 7 (short) louvres on a cca
1903 Darracq 8HP Tonneau 1 cylinder
model.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1902
Peugeot 8HP RE Tonneau
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post by John Davies requesting identification. -- Registration
number on the car on the right AH 222 was a Norfolk County Council
issue but no dating records available. Check with the DVLA suggests
still in use
and LBVCR catalogue shows it in the 2019 Brighton Run as cca
1902 Peugeot 8HP Rear Entrance Tonneau,
which suggests built pre-registrations, with later reg number?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904
Little Star 7 HP Two-Seater
Interesting
family photo from Paul Vesty (UK) taken in
the 1960s of him and parents in a vintage car. A photographer's prop
vehicle at the seaside -- Our Ariejan
Bos advises this is a cca
1904 Little Star 7 HP Two-Seater as
manufactured by the Star Motor Company of Wolverhampton. Star made some
lovely cars, became Guy Motors in 1928 but closed 1932. Star expert
Neale Lawson advises this
car
has survived and now has
new owner, a new body
and period Registration.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Phoenix Quadcar
Another interesting photo posted on
Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for
identification and dating. -- We
have had this photo before and the vehicle is similar to the one on
Help Page 119, the same make car but earlier model with external tower
radiators. This is a cca
1905 Phoenix Quadcar using 844cc
Fafnir engine, with passenger sitting in a forecar. What is quite
interesting is that it carries a Birmingham CBC registration of
1923. Perhaps original regn sold, or later wreck rebuild?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Daimler 30 Landaulette
Interesting
photo from Joe Morgan (UK)
of a car owned by Adam Dowie, a merchant in Java late 1800's. Returned
to England circa 1905. living in West London with country
house thought to be at Winkfield, Surrey. -- Reg
Number is London CC 1905. Car is cca
1905 Daimler 30 Landaulette. Daimler
bought right to use German Daimler name. UK's oldest car maker,
made a myriad of models in first years mostly differing engine size but
similar bodies made by outside coachbuilders.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1909 Vivinus Town Car
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook page showing Belgian photos. --
Wolseley/Darracq type rad bur nothinbg matched. Our Ariejan Boss from
Holland advised this was a very Belgian car, a cca
1909 Vivinus Town Car. Licences sold
to New Orleans of England, Georges Richard of France and De Dietrich of
Germany. Made bicycles 1890s, imported Benz, made own cars 1895,
motorcycle and aero engines, closed 1912.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Pipe Sports Tourer
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook page showing Belgian photos. --
Radiator top is similar to a number of
others of the period but this one was made by a Brussels pipe
manufacturer who branched in 1900 into 'Compagnie Belge de Construction
Automobiles'. Medium sized car so is a cca
1910 Pipe Sports Tourer, possibly the
16'20. Pipe did well in races, 'Gordon Bennett' and 'Keiserpreis', and
was the basis for 1905 NSU cars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1910 Swift 7HP Tourer
Interesting enquiry received via the
Automobile from Peter Christie (UK) showing
his mother's father and mother
driving. The two girls on the left of the picture are his mother and
her older sister and on the right are two other older sisters. -- Unclear
registration either DS 219 (Peebles Scotland), or DB 219 (Stockport CBC
1910). Car designed by Austin using just one cylinder 1099cc but made
for them 1909-11 by Swift Motor Co as a 1910
Swift 7HP Tourer; also sold as first
Austin 7HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Unic Landaulette Taxi
Another interesting photo posted on
Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for
identification and dating of the car on the right. -- It
is an open drive landaulette which does not seem to have a driver's
door, which helps in dating, and may have circular taxameter, a Taxi.
Registration is Brighton CBC 1912. The vehicle was a popular French
Taxi of the time, a cca
1912 Unic Landaulette Taxi, 10'12
likely 12'14HP imported by Mann & Overton, London, available as
chassis or complete.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1913 Audi 14'35 1 ton Lorry
Enquiry received concerning a lorry being
used by demonstrators in Germany in 1918 at the end of the First World
War. Question as to what the vehicle was? -- Realtively
confusing because the vehicle deffinately seems to have built as a
lorry but seems to have a car type of front. Investigation of the badge
and the position of it so that the lower edge is below the lower edge
of the radiator suggests the German company Audi. Further research
advises it is a cca
1913+ Audi 14'35 1 ton Lorry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Humber 10HP Tourer
A rather blurry photo received from SVVS
Member Marion Woodville (UK)
who was told it was a pre WW1 Humber, and
by the clothing of the occupants was guessing taken in the 1920s.
-- Not
as easy as it looks. No numberplate visible to help in dating. Steep
'older' rake to rad. Leather capping to doors. Lip to rad hinge. The
running board and mudguards are non-standard as is the sidelight on
mudguard, and there is no skirt. Could be a 1920s update of a cca
1914 Humber 10HP Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Tilling Stevens TTA1 Omnibus
Another interesting photo from
Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for
identification and dating of the double decker bus in the middle. -- Very
'Renault-y scuttle bonnet but this one is a
British 'hybrid' vehicle built in Maidstone in
Kent using a petrol engine connected to electric generator to drive a
traction motor driven live axle to rear wheels. This is a cca
1914 Tilling Stevens TTA1 Petrol-Electric Omnibus.
Rheostat so no conventional gearbox; therefore take-off and drive very smooth.
cca
1914 Tilling Stevens TTA1 Petrol-Electric Omnibus.
Rheostat so no conventional gearbox; therefore take-off and drive very smooth.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1916 Ford Model T Special
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook page showing unidentified cars. --
Strange looking car that looks familiar; transverse front spring, Hassler
shocks, curved bonnet, half a double frame windscreen, crowned curved mudguards,
- lot to
confuse. It is either a pre
1915 Ford Model T Touring updated to
the rounded bonnet spec, or it is a post 1916 newer car ' sportified '
to have a lower older windscreen / roof arrangement.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915 Wolseley 24'30 Staff
Car
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post by John Davies requesting identification. -- No
registration number visible on the car on the left surrounded by WW1
wounded soldiers. Car was made in Birmingham by a Vickers combine in
conjunction with Herbert Austin. Wolseley Tool and Motor Car Company
started 1901 and by 1913 was Britain's largest car manufacturer. This
is
cca1915 Wolseley 24'30 Staff
Car, six cylinder.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1917 Ford Model T Taxi
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook post by John Davies requesting identification. French? -- American
car with probably a quality British body and French wheels, Post 1916
rounded rad, bonnet and scuttle; curved crowned mudguards, still gas
sidelights. This seems a cca 1917 Ford Model T
chassis with a
coach-built two-window Landaulette Taxi open drive body (town car) with
plain French Michelin disc wheels. Nice!
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1922
Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
AACA forum. --
Registration is Manchester CBC. Our RR Specialist Tom Clarke advises
this is a 1922
Rolls Royce Silver Ghost with Cockshoot Allweather Coachwork.
Cockshoot of Manchester coachbuilders since 1844 became Rolls Lancs
agents, then others. Car chassis 23PG listed UK in 1959 and was in USA
before 1972. Last seen 1998 with same body. Not in RROC but may be
Silver Ghost Association.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1922
Bentley 4.5L Fire Engine
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
AACA forum. -- A
vehicle with a checkered past started life as a 1922
Bentley 3 Litre Sports, different registration,
and still in use today. Bit of a 'Bitsa', chassis number 54 was a
competition hill climb car in 1920s. Photo when it had a 4.5
engine and Sunbeam body used by City of Chichester Auxiliary Fire
Service during World War II; - previously in use by Sussex Home
Guard as the "Panzer-wagen" .
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
c1923 Citroen 5CV Topedo/Van
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a facebook page posted by Jules Queva. --
Memories of my youth in Croatia where only car in town was a station
taxi on same principle but an Opel. Our Michel Gosset advises it is a Citroen
Model C, a DIY
van change of a Torpedo: one piece windscreen articulated at top. The
VL and Cabriolet : two parts articulated at the top. The Trefle and
strapontin are: one piece articulated a the bottom.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Willys Overland 65 Touring
Difficult photo received from Fred W.
Kennedy (Canada) an
author of Jamaican history. Photograph of
grandmother and her family was taken
in 1925 in Mandeville, Jamaica, British West Indies. He owned a
1915 Overland but this does not look it? -- Not
much car to see. Not 1915 but does look like cca
1925 Willys Overland 65 Touring as has
front brakes, 6 rear/12 front wheel studs, louvre panel with low mid handle on
bonnet with wavy top surface, rear opening doors, drum
headlights.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927
Morris Oxford Doctor's Coupe
Repaired photo from
Dean McCarthy Dublin (Eire)
found while recently trawling through the family photo
collection. On the back a note says Delage 1927 ? -- French
Delages of the era were sporty cars with wire wheels and slightly
rounded rad. This is British, a squareish rad and our Chas Moody advises
it is a top-of-the-range
cca 1927 Morris Oxford 3/4 Folding Head Coupe
(Doctor's Coupe), 13.9 HP, 1802 cc, 4-cylinder SV. Rad is post 1926,
and roof folding mechanism only offered in 1927/8.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1927
Adler Standard 6 Tourenwagen
Another interesting photo from our regular contributor Mark
Dawber (New Zealand) from
a Facebook page requesting identification. -- This
seems a well hand-coloured version of a black & white photo of a
OLEX service station. Olex was an Austrian company founded in 1901 also
later operating in Germany, Became German, later Deutsche BP, division
of British Petroleum. The car with triangualr logo, horisontal louvres
and badge bar is cca1927
Adler Standard 6 10'45 Tourenwagen.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
1932 Wolsely Hornet Special
Interesting
family photo from Peter Clackett (UK) of
his father when he would have been in his early twenties in
the '34-38 period, Dad was 6'2" to put it in perspective to size
of car. Photo had been sent to VSCC. -- Very
difficult one as the pdf is such poor quality and seems a black/white
scan not greyscale. We requested better photo but no reply. Two of our
team feel this is a
cca 1932 Wolseley Hornet Special, this
one from shape of tail possibly bodied by Swallow Sidecar (Jaguar).
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935
Austin 10'4 Colwyn Cabriolet
Very small blurry photo received from Geoff
Charman (UK) of late
father-in- law's first car advised as Austin Chummy. Seems not,
possibly an Austin Ruby. Sorry about the photo size. -- Poor
photo. Lots of searching by our
team and conclusiona cca
1935 Austin 10'4 Colwyn Cabriolet.
Seems to have suicide doors, wire wheels, three vent flaps on the
bonnet and one on the scuttle, and the hood iron in place of the rear
window, & boot. Wheel hubs are about the right size, as are
headlights.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1954
Vauxhall Velox Saloon
Another puzzling photo
received from James Baxendale (UK)
of cars belonging to his family. Can we
confirm that the car is a 1954 Vauxhall Wyvern EIX ? --
Registration is indeed 1954 and was issued by Hereford County Council.
We are not one-make specialists but our general identification
knowledge suggest that this is not a Wyvern but a 1954
Vauxhall Velox Saloon. The two cars
were relatively similar in appearance but Velox Six cylinder had a Vauxhall
badge bar below logo.
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