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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1903
Belsize Rear Entrance Tonneau
Photo from a fascinating set received some
years ago from Mrs. Joan Green from Lancashire (UK).
They are all from an album discovered in
her late great aunt's loft. The name associated with the album is Allvey.
-- This one has remained doubtful
but guessed at by John Warburton until a recent photo of a similar car
in the Automobile was confirmed by Bryan Goodman and Tim Harding as a
cca 1903 Belsize. Apparently the
bolts through the rad are a Belsize fetaure of the time.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1903
Clement Rear Entrance Tonneau
Photo received from Sally Morgan (UK)
being a postcard showing a car being investigated in connection
with her search for relatives of her grandmother in Scotland. Is it an
Arrol Johnson? --
No, this is not a car made in Scotland but made in France. It is a cca
1903 Clement Rear Entrance Tonneau.
History of Adolphe Clement was very complicated having had fingers in
many pies including with Stirling's Motor Carriages, Glasgow, Scotland,
where 200 early Clement-Panhards were imported.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
National Model C Pickup
Photo posted by Dave Hodge (USA)
on AACA asking for identification saying it
was a family picture taken on Long Island in 1914/15. -- Not
many American cars had circular radiators so it was a case of
eliminating those that did. Left was the National which was built in
Indianapolis, Indiana. They started in 1901 building electric cars and
in 1903 built petrol driven. In 1905 bigger petrol cars with round
radiators to 1908. Bonnet length suggests pickup on a cca
1906 National Model C.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1908
Metallurgique Roadster
Two sets of photos received from Alan Weeks
(UK) saying we
helped identify Chevrolet lorries belonging to explorer Sir Philip
Brocklehurst. They now have photos by his brother, Henry Courtney, The
first at 1911 Delhi Durbar camp, other at Swythamley. Probably
shipped home when the regiment went to South Africa in 1912 or returned
England '14. --Car
was manufactured in Belgium and many were exported to the UK, and had
Vanden Plas bodies. This is a
cca 1908 Metallurgique Roadster.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909
Lorraine Dietrich Tourer
Photos received from Alan Weeks (UK)
saying we helped identify lorries used by
explorer Sir Philip Brocklehurst. Photo taken by Courtney
Brocklehurst, so car may belong to his brother, Sir Philip. --
Quite unusual impressive high quality car
made in France. Registration was issued by London County Council in the
summer of 1909. The car is a cca
1909 Lorraine Dietrich Tourer. Le Mans
winners 1925 and 26. Car production ended in 1934, -aero engines started
in WW1 went to WW2 !
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Darracq 14'16 Landaulette
Photo received from Margaret Burns of Herne
Bay History Group (UK) searching
on behalf of John Bent-Marshall the history of his Great Grandfather
William Blackburn who bought a house in the area 1900 to 1918. -- This
is a French car built in Suresnes near Paris. We thought 12 HP but our
John Warburton feels that 1.7 litres is just too small a capacity for
this size of body. We can therefore advise this is a cca1910
Darracq 14/16HP Landaulette.
Alexandre Darracq started in 1896.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Panhard Levassor 15HP Taxi
Photo received from Derrick Sutton (UK)
helping his daughters future father in law with family tree. Date
unknown, shows great grandfather Timothy Edward Hanlon, in 1911 Census
as Motor Cab Driver. --
Reg no help in dating. Relatively sure this is a cca1910
Panhard Levassor 15HP Taxi built by
W&G Du Cros company in Acton. Du Cros were a major taxi
operator using mainly Napier and P & L cabs. They even had a fleet
of Yellow Cabs with British Landaulette bodies. Later built commercials.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Metallurgique Speedster
Two sets of photos received from Alan Weeks
(UK) saying we
helped identify Chevrolet lorries belonging to explorer Sir Philip
Brocklehurst . They now have photos by his brother, Henry Courtney. The
first smaller car is visible in the background. --
Registration LF 3925 was issued by London
County Council between 5'12 to 3'13. The car was therefore probably 1912
as it did not have the electrics which came in 1913. This is cca
1912 Metallurgique Speedster. The car
in background is a 'third' car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
NAG Tulip Bodied Open Tourer
Fascinating photo received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Constanta. -- This
imposing car, a cca
1914 NAG Tulip Tourer, was made in
Germany by the Neue Autobobil Gesellschaft in Berlin. It was one of the
largest vehicle manufacturing companies in Germany in 1914, and was a
favorite car of King of Romania. He purchased 17 NAG cars between 1905
and 1914. Very grand tulip body and large engine. Perhaps one of the
Royal cars?
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
Perry 8HP Two-seater
Photo posted by Eric Haartz (USA)
questioning if this was a 1928 Bean? Sent
to him by Ayton family in UK.-- Curved coachwork separate from
dickey was largely over by cca 1916. Also, car had a
square rad, which the early Bean did not. Predecessor to the
Bean "The Perry" provides the answer. Perry, originally a pen
maker, were bought by Bayliss Thomas, built the twin Perry and via
Willys Overland sold Perry to Bean in 1919. Tim Harding is positive: cca1914
Perry Two-seater 8HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1919
Premier Model 6C Touring
While researching on the web for something
else, came across this photo which was asking identification. Regret I
have lost the info on the website, so cannot advise them directly.
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This is cca
1919 Premier Touring built in
Indianapolis, Indiana by company started in 1902 and gone by 1914.
Reconstituted but went again in 1923 despite making highly regarded
cars. New owners decided to build taxis and got an order for 1000
Premier Taxi Cabs. Sold to National Cab & Truck in 1926.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1919
Hupmobile Model R Roadster
Photo received from Michael Plumb (Australia)
showing his Grandparents in 1936 in Australia. Mother once said
they had a Rover with a Dicky seat that they sat in. Would it be this
car? --
This definitely is not a British Rover but there is some agreement from
our friends at the AACA that this is USA made cca1919
Hupmobile Model R Roadster. There are
certainly many pointers to suggest this is so but the body and door are
wrong suggesting that the body mat have beeen made locally.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
AEC Charabanc
Photo received from Roy Jones, Lyme
Regis, Devon, (UK)
saying what
a great service we offer !! He attached
a photo which he is trying to identify for his family history
research. It shows his Uncle Fred on an outing. Judging by his age he
thinks the photo was early twenties or thereabouts. Fred is in the
standing group, far left. --
This photo helpfully shows the front wheel with 10 spokes and part
radiator with bump indicating a cca 1920 AEC Charabanc, probably
on Y Type chassis.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1920
Overland Model 4 Touring
Photo Photo received from Colin
Waugh (UK)
which shows a car driven by his grandfather. He would like an ID
to include in a family history he is undertaking. -- Registration
was issued by Birmingham BC in 1920. The car is a cca
1920 Willys-Overland Model Four Touring.
Model was between 1919 and 1922. Overland made in Indianapolis, USA,
initially in a circus tent. The company was purchased by John Willys in
1912 and was renamed Willys-Overland. Second largest maker
to Ford in 1916.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1921
GN Sports 1100 Twin
Photo received from Alan Weeks of
Swythamley Historical Society (UK)
saying it was taken at Hydecroft,
Lowfield Heath, near Crawley in Surrey, around 1920. Courtney's wife,
Lady Helen but they assume the car belongs to one of the two unknown
men.--
Quite an unusual car but a well known make.
The car is a cca 1921 GN Sports V Twin, 1100cc. GN were the first/best
British cyclecar. Made in Wandsworth, London, by Godfrey and
Frazer-Nash. Made at 58 a week in the 20s, - closed 1925.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
Ford Model T Tourer
Photo received from Brett
Payne Tauranga, (New Zealand) saying
we helped in the past and could we please do again. The photographs show
his grandfather in the driver's seat of a motor car, probably in Derby,
England. It may have been taken in the late 1920s. Could we
advise make/year of the vehicle? --
The car appears to be a
Model T Ford Touring and various body
aspects suggest a build year of cca 1923. As this could be a
Ford car built in the UK, style may be a year or so later.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Chrysler 60 Touring
One of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. -- This
photo shows another Taxi from Bucharest at a market with interesting
national costume designs in the background. Initially thought as a '24
Chrysler B70, we have been advised by Mark Dawber that due to bullet
shaped headlamps, four bolt hubs, and short gap between doors,
this car is cca
1926
Chrysler 60 Four Door Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Nash Four Door Sedan
Interesting photo received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Constanta. -- This
photo shows a Taxi from Bucharest with a proud driver. The photo also
helpfully has two Nash badges which again make it an American car. The mudguards
have a profiled shape which makes it pre 1927 and the radiator shape and
badge suggest it is a cca1926
Nash Advanced Six Touring. Nash
were in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and were initially
"Jeffrey".
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Chrysler 60 Four Door Touring
One of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. -- This
photo shows another Taxi from Bucharest probably being used by the owner
socially. It is again an American car and again a Chrysler. From
the drum lights and ribbed mudgurds it looks like a cca 1926 Chrysler
Series 60/70 Four Door Touring. By 1928 the radiator was entirely
different. Was the seventh largest car producer at time in USA.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Oldsmobile F 28 Touing
One of a number of photos received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Romania and Constanta. -- This
photo shows another Taxi from Bucharest. Our friend Casper at the AACA
helped to advise this is a cca 1928 Oldsmobile F28 Touring. Interesting
to note it has disc wheels. Olds made his first car, a steamer, in 1887
and first petrol in 1896. First Oldsmobile in 1901. In 1904 he left and
formed REO and outsold Oldsmbl to 1917. Became GM.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1930
Austin 16/6 Pickup Special
Matt from Virginia Beach
(USA) has just
purchased this vehicle originally from UK. What can we tell him. -- Reg
OG 189# was issued by Birmingham County
Borough Council (UK) in 1930. Our colleague Jim Stringer of the Vintage
Austin Register advises this is a 1930
Austin 16/6 originally an open tourer.
TT in the car number indicate a Tourer and Twelve chassis but /6
indicates it is a 'Six-Sixteen'. Look for date on rear axle diff
casing for when chassis left to have saloon
body fitted.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1936
Dodge Four Door Sedan
Fascinating photo received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Constanta. -- This
car which is about to get a wash is a car belonging, according to
the writing on the door, to the Constanta Prefecture. The car was made
in Detroit, Michigan, USA, and is a cca
1936 Dodge Four Door Sedan. Dodge
Brothers supplied bits to, and has shares in Ford, sold them and started
1914. Both died 1920, widows sold to bank, - and bank to Chrysler 1928.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1938 Austin Cambridge 10'4 Saloon
Photo received from Mary Hoban (UK) who
has been asked to make a wedding
cake in
the shape of the car in the photograph. Could we identify the
model so she could then find appropriate photographs and dimensions to
make a template. -- Rounded
windscreen, so post 1935. Registration AVL is 1938/9. Does not have a
'Six' script on the rad so it is a four cylinder. There was a range of
Austins in that period with 'town names' but I think this is
a cca
1938/9 Austin Cambridge 10/4 Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1938
Buick Four Door Sedan
Fascinating photo received from Cicos
Florin in Constanta by the Black Sea (Romania)
who is interested in old cars of Constanta. -- This
photo also shows what appears to be an official car by the flag carrier
on the wing. Like the earlier Prefecture car, this car is also American
having been made in Flint, Michigan. It is a cca
1938 Buick Four Door Sedan. Buick
started in 1903 making marine engines. Cars 1904, also in Canada 1908
and London 1909. By 1938 they were making 300,000 cars / year.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Minerva Limousine probably
Regretfully this photo has been doing the
rounds of our experts for so long that I have lost details of who sent
it to us. Very sorry but we get so many enquiries it is sometimes a bit
difficult to keep track. --
None of our experts have come up with a
positive identification because the picture is a bit small and blurred
in definition. I feel that this is probably a cca
1928 Minerva Limousine. Minerva was
built in Belgium but many were imported to UK and bodied here. Looks
like a London Cunard body.
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