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The SVVS Website currently receives
approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,
cars are in year order:
Page 65 below relates to enquiries received
during
2014 Click
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1903
Clement 14hp RE Tonneau
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in an
American TV film " A Child's Christmas in Wales " made in
1987 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is about
a little boy whose Grandfather gives him an old snow globe and tells him
a story. --
The car is French, made in Paris, by Gustave Adolphe Clément who was in
world's fist motor racing car in 1894. Made bicycles and cars.
This was one of his earliest being a cca
1903 Clement 14hp R. Entrance Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1904
Wolseley 6HP Two-Seater
A couple of lovely photos received from Peter
Webster from Cheadle Hulme (UK)
saying he is researching his family history and has come across
this photo of his (very young) grandmother in a vehicle in the yard of
Walter Munn, Belfast, Northern Ireland, circa 1910ish. --RI
423 is a Dublin CBC Registration, although Belfast did have their own.
The car is relatively easity recognisable by the distinctive
wrap-around radiator cooling tube system and is cca
1904 Wolseley 6HP Two-Seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Peugeot Model 72 Surrey Top
A blurry
photo posted by Hillstart (UK) on
the AACA Forum of a car taken in UK in 1900, - but then corrected to
Monte Carlo in 1908. -- In
the UK without numberplate car would be pre 1903; and this is bit
later. Various cars had similar header tanks in period including the
French Peugeot, but these were without louvers until '05. The header
tank is relatively short which limits choice and makes the closest
match to be a cca
1905 Peugeot Model 72,
4 cylinder 3.6 litres, with a 'Surrey Top'.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1907 Darracq 16hp Tourer
Poor photo posted on the AACA website by
Chris saying "Can
anyone identify car in photo? The date is July 1908. I would be most
interested to find out. While it has nothing to do with the car, the
people around it are the crew of ''Cobweb'' (an 8 metre) and are about
to win the Gold Medal for Britain in the world's first yachting
Olympics, at Ryde. --
Suggested that it may be a British Crossley but we are relatively sure
from rad and badge this is a Paris made cca
1907 Darracq 16hp Tourer.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1908
Berliet C2 22HP Tourer
Photo received from Deepak Dev
Burman (India) of
a car that belonged to an Indian King in the Tripura State in
India. He approximates the year of use as 1925-1935. The car is no
more, did not survive ! He thinks it may be a Humber 1920 Tourer.
-- Regret it
is not a Humber nor is it 1920s. The photo is a little fuzzy but we are
relatively sure this is a French car built in Lyon. From the wider rad
surround this seems a cca
1908 Berliet C2 22 hp. - But if
owned by a king, it may be a 40 or 60HP?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Minerva Type X Open Tourer
Photo received from Vanya Hoeffding
(USA) hoping we can identify car
belonging to great-grandfather, architect Walter Aubrey Thomas
(driving), at great-aunt's marriage in Cheshire 1915. --
The registration is not visible but the car has gas lighting and an RAC
badge. The radiator top and badge have distinctive styling saying this
is a Belgian made cca
1911 Minerva Type X 24 HP Open Tourer
probably obtained from the UK Agent, Honorable Charles S
Royce, UK being Minerva's largest market.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
c1911 Hispano Suiza Alfonso
A photo which appears to be a scan
of a newspaper cutting received from
Rafael Diaz Naval from Santa Cruz de Tenerife (Canary
Islands)
saying he needs identification of this car which seems from the '1910
year'. -- The
photo is just simply not good enough to be able to make a definite
identification. As the Canaries were a Spanish province one is tempted
to see this little car with angular mudguards as a cca
1911 Hispano Suiza Alfonso Two Seater,
-which did not have wooden wheels?
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Majola 8'10 4C Sports
Another photo received from Adrian
Pascu-Tulbure (UK)
relating to an item on historic cars of Romania in a Romanian
newspaper. Taken pre-1916 in Caracal, Romania. Is it a Majola? --
Lovely photograph with the Majola logo on the radiator honeycomb. Majola
cars were built in St Denis, north Paris. They made two models with
similar radiator and badge, 1911 to '14. Similar fronted car was driven
by designer Maurice Doutre in 1912 Tour de France. Became
Georges Irat 1920, & new rad.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1914
Swift 7HP Two-Seater Cyclecar
A rather faint photo
received from Jerry Burley (UK)
saying this has just appeared in a box of old family photos
during a clearout. It might be a relative but they are not sure
who, what or where this is. Our help much appreciated. -- We
have slightly enhanced the photo. Registration LW 6#72 was issued by
London County Council in June 1919, but the car was was made before WW1
and stored for the duration. This is a two cylinder cca
1914 Swift 7HP Cyclecar Two Seater,
still with gas lighting.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1915
Ford Model T Touring
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in an
British TV film " Why Didn't They Ask Evans?" made in
1980 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is
based on Agatha Christies 1934 murder mystery. --
Transverse spring identifies it as a Ford T. Registration SE 437 is
Banff CC in Scotland but difficult to say if genuine or new 'age
related'. Dating of car is easier from the
angular radiator, and it has electric lighting. The car is a
cca 1915 Ford Model T Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Overland 90 Touring
Photo received from Tom
Cunliffe from Seaford (UK) asking
if we can help him identify a car from the attached photo. It
belongs to a relative of a friend in Seaford and they have drawn a
blank with numerous Google Image searches. -- The
interesting part about the photo is the number AN 110. This is a
West Ham (London) registration of cca 1904 but car is a cca
1919 Overland 90 Four Tourer so
probably a 'cherished plate'. Body looks British and Overland had a
tie-up with Crossley 1919.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Studebaker Light/Special Six
Photo received from Lisa Dresserb (USA)
who is trying to identify the car
shown in the attached image. The man in the driver's seat died in
August 1928, so the picture was definitely taken before then. --
We note the enquiry was also sent to the AACA. While we agree with the
suggestion of the make, from curved rad top, the shorter louvers and
squarish skirt, big rear brakes and smaller windscreen frame mount, we
feel this is a cca
1919 Studebaker Light / Special Six EH 19'20 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1920
Angus Sanderson 14HP Landau
Fascinating photo sent to one of our
expert contributors (UK)
saying the photo has resided in Scotland for some considerable time but
nobody knew what the car was. --
All pointers, bar slightly shouldered radiator, suggest this is a
very unusual British car and well worth mentioning in these pages.
Cantilever springs, double scuttle filler caps, the wavy disc wheels
and body, all say cca1920 Angus Sanderson 14 HP with
standard factory Allweather body. Only about 3,000 A-S cars built.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1919
Hillman 11HP Two-Seater
Photo submitted by Colin Mitchell (UK)
of grandparents in possibly a Cluley 10-4Hp taken before 1927 in
Northampton where Grandmother was first lady to hold driving licence.
Can we confirm it is actually a Cluely because it does not match in some
respects. --
Regret not a Cluley as this is a cca
1919 Hillman 11HP Two-Seater with Dickey.
Hillman started in 1907 in Coventry, made the popular 9HP 1913, which
became 11HP after WW1, with 14HP in 1925. Became Humber in 1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1923
Peugeot Quadrilette 172
Photo received from Sigurd
Volker (Germany) who
told his father in law (82) about "our incredible
site" when he mentioned his father's first car, the make of which
he has forgotten. He provided the attached photo by mobile phone, so is
a bit small and blurry. Can we help? -- Presumably
the photo was taken in Germany so it is a little surprising to find
this is a French car. This is a cca
1923 Peugeot Quadrilette, RHD and is
probably later side-by-side seating type 172, of which 8,000 were made
1923/4.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924
Benz 11'40 Tourenwagen
Tiny photo received from Nathan Leadbetter
(USA) saying
" I came across a photo of Adolph
Hitler standing next to a car, probably late '20s, which
looks like a Mercedes L, but there are several things off. Can you
advise. Thanks for running a great site! --
Not a Mercedes but a Benz, being big competitors until they merged in
1925. Photo of Hitler is on release from Landsberg Prison 1924 next to
what seems his then preference, a basic cca
1924 Benz 11'40 Tourenwagen
bought on credit !
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925
Trojan Utility Tourer
Cinema screen grab of a vehicle which appeared in an
British TV film " Why Didn't They Ask Evans? " made in
1980 where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. The film is
based on Agatha Christies 1934 murder mystery. --
Peculiarly British car this is a cca 1925 Trojan Utility Tourer designed by
Leslie Hounsfield and 16,000 made for him by Leyland Motors in Kingston-upon-Thames.
Engine was started by pulling a lever next to the driver. Sales
slogan was " Can you afford to walk?"
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Chandler Model 35 7P Touring
Lovely photo received from Ron
Glenister (Australia) saying
"Photo was taken in the 1920's 'On the road to Jonalan"
near Sydney, Australia. Would be grateful if you could identify the
vehicle. Love your site." --The first photo had no car but is lovely, so attached. The second photo
shows a very large American Tourer with 10 people aboard. Made in
Cleveland, Ohio, this is a cca
1926 Chandler Model 35 7-place Tourer.
The Chandler-Cleveland Motor Corp was bought in 1928 by Hupp Motor
Corp.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Alvis 12'50 Alvista Fabric Saloon
Photo submitted by Jayne Shrimpton (UK)
dress historian and regular columnist for
Practical Family History magazine saying" I wonder if you could
help with this car photograph please? The owner of the photo says Leeds
registration but can you suggest a date range please; probably early
1920s, based on the dress, but the car might clinch it. --
Indeed Leeds County Borough Council, late '27/early '28. This is a
quality car built in Coventry being a cca
1927 Alvis TA 14.75 Alvista Fabric Saloon.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:Possibly
c1933 Maybach Zeppelin
Another puzzling photo received from Adrian
Pascu-Tulbure (UK)
which he has been pondering for ages. Almost definitely coach-built but
he has no idea on what! Many thanks. --
This has taxed all our experts and we have not come up with a positive
identification. It has a European look with some American features to
confuse. Going out on a limb, I suggest this could be a coachbuilt
German cca
1933 Maybach Zeppelin DS8 Coupe de Ville,
possibly bodied in America, as has
lots of hinges?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934
Ford Model 40 V8 Sedan
Photo received from Mansoor Aziz Ahmed
(Pakistan) of a
car that is supposed to be a Rolls belonged to the Nizam of
Hyderbad. Obviously not a RR, perhaps Fiat? -- This
photo has been on the net for years and currently lampoons Rolls Royce
because of an apparent insult to the Nizam in London, who then bought
six and used them as garbage trucks. The photo is of a cca
1934 Ford Model 40 V8. Alternatively,
photo is also claimed to have been taken in Baghdad, Iraq, - as a
street cleaning car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1934
Chrysler CA Convertible Coupe
Very grainy and out of focus small photo received from
Patricia Lewis (USA) saying
" I hope you can help me identify this car. The car
belonged to Martin Price Jones who lived in Baltimore City, Maryland,
USA. He was my father. Unfortunately, he is deceased and I found the
photo after his death. --
We have had a go at repairing the photo which shows up clearly five
bonnet louver bars which were the trademark, for a couple of years, of
cca 1934 Chrysler CA Two Door Convertible Coupe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Wolseley Super Six Saloon
Photo received from Ashleigh Roberts (UK) of
his dad in a car, but he cannot work out what the cars is. The photo
was taken about 1930, probably in London. Cannot see see the font of
the car but the full side and the shape of it is visible. Dad was then
about twenty-ish, and before he moved to Liverpool. Can we
help? -- The
shape is very much a cca 1936 Wolseley Super Six Saloon which were made
1935 to 1937. These were an up-market Morris and were available as 16,
21 and 25HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936
Standard Flying 12 Saloon
Photo received from Roy Edgar (UK)
saying "
You have been terrifically helpful on previous requests and I am
hoping you can identify this Oldham-registered car, photo also showing
my mother and her brother. --
The registration is indeed Oldham CBC late 1936. The car was built in
Coventry by a company founded in 1903 by Reginald Maudslay who insisted
the cars were built to 'the best possible standard'. Bonnet louvres say
this is a cca
1939 Standard Flying 12 Saloon,
costing £299.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1928
Citroen C4 Radiator Cowling
Photo received from Chris Fussell (UK)
saying "
I came across this radiator cowling in
some junk and I was wondering if it could be identified as to what
vehicle it came from. Measure 31" X 18" X 4 3/4" and is
made of brass. There is an elongated octagon insert to take a badge on
front top." --
The octagonal badge recess really gives the game away as the shape was
relatively unusual but at the same time well known. This surround
is from early cca
1928 Citroen C4/C6 vehicle.
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APPRECIATED
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