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The SVVS Website currently receives approximately 500,000 hits a year and the "HELP PAGE" is internationally the most visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as new, and owning Vintage photo  or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle  -   These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries received, and information that we have provided.  While page is being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed,  cars are in year order:

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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1859 Rickett Steam Carriage 
Our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) wondered if we knew what this one was? -- This is cca 1859 Steam Carriage built by Thomas Rickett who was the Foundry Manager of the Castle Foundry, Buckingham, UK. This was the third one ordered, by Earl of Caithness for £190, and is shown driving it with his wife. It was a three wheeler, two cylinder 3400cc, chain drive with reverse and brakes. It was steered by tiller, did 19mph. Rickett at back stoked boiler during 146 mile trip in Scotland!

1859 Rickett Steam Carriage

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1902 Adler Type 2 Vis-a-Vis
Puzzling photo received from Par Sorlinden (Sweden) which according to a newspaper article came to Sweden around 1898. It has a De Dion-Bouton engine. Wondering if you have any idea of what make the car is?  -- Our veterans expert Ariejan Bos advises early Adler. In Werner Oswald book only Type 1 (1900-1903) had a vertical steering column, but Ariejan has them on up to type 8 (1902-1904).  This is likely Adler Type 2 which had 2 parallel sets of horizontal louvres, (1901-03). 

c1902 Adler Type 2 Vis-a-Vis

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1903 Lacoste & Battmann Product
Another puzzling photo received from Par Sorlinden (Sweden) of an automobile, taken in Sweden. Perhaps it could be either Star, Napier, or Panhard? -- Another for our veterans expert Ariejan Bos who advises that it is a classic example of a cca 1903 Lacoste & Battmann product whose cars were sold under many names in UK and abroad:  Regal, Canterbury, Cupelle, Achilles, Speedwell and at least a dozen more. Perhaps a contemporary Swedish advert may  produce local a name ?

c1903 Lacoste & Battmann Prod

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Probably 1906 FIAT Tourer
Another couple of requests for identification of a vehicles received from our regular contributor Joao Ferreira  (Portugal). Can we help with the identification of this car on which he has no ideas. --  Nothing much to get our teeth into but our Ariejan Bos deduced that bonnet and chain drive point to Mercedes, Berliet or Fiat. Dumb irons rule Mercedes out, wheel hubs rule Berliet out, leaving FIAT, possibly the 1905 24-32 hp model , or the 1906 24-40 hp model, basically the follow-up of 1905 car.

Probably 1906 FIAT Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Spyker 30'42 Double Phaeton
Another couple of requests for identification of a vehicles received from our regular contributor Joao Ferreira  (Portugal). The first one seemed Delaunay but he could not find one to match. "Congratulations for your work !" --  Number companies made a circular bonnet on both sides of the Atlantic. This one is European, but not French, instead from Amsterdam in Holland. Has a long bonnet so is likely the big cca 1907 Spyker 30'42 Double Phaeton. Company closed 1926. Supercar in 1999.

1907 Spyker 30'42 Double Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907 Darracq on 1908 De Dion Lorry
Another curious photo sent to us by Timothy Martin (USA)  of a lorry carrying a car that  he cannot identify. English scene not French? -- Houses all have shutters which is not common at all in the UK, so probably it is France. The lorry is a De Dion Bouton and it has not got the round Solex rad, is likely pre 1909, longish so possibly the 4.5 Ton. The tyre-less car on the back of it is a cca 1907 Darracq Landaulette with an extremely unusual rad top which was only in use for one year.

1907 Darracq Landaulette on a cca 1908 De Dion Bouton Lorry

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909 Panhard & Levassor 18CV
Another curious photo sent to us by Timothy Martin (USA)  via Mark Dawber of a chain driven car. Suggestions of not much to go on. A French postcard but not necessarily a French car. -- French postcard would likely show French car.  Primary recognition feature is the 'funnel shape' radiator filler cap. This normally points to one of the first car manufacturers in 1887 in the world, in Paris France. This is a cca 1909 Panhard & Levassor 18CV Double Phaeton, 4 cylinder engine of 4072cc.

1909 Panhard & Levassor 18CV Double-Phaeton

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Berkshire Roadster
Puzzling postcard poasted on the AACA website by Oldford from Hudson  (USA) which he has had for over 30 years and has yet to identify it. On the back, written in pencil is Houpt-Rockwell?  -- No! This reached us via Mark Dawber and we sent to Ariejan Bos who advised it took him two days but can say it is a cca 1910 Berkshire Roadster built in Pittsfield MA, prop so likely Model E 35HP. Started 1904, closed 1907; restarted 1909, revitalized 1910; finished 1912.  About 150 cars made.

1910 Berkshire Roadster, probably Model E

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Plymouth 40HP Touring
Another very curious photo sent to us by Timothy Martin (USA)  via Mark Dawber of a car with a strange hump on the bonnet. -- Not familiar so first thought perhaps a steamer as had whistle? However our Ariejan Bos had seen it before and advised it was a cca 1910 Plymouth 40HP Touring with Wisconsin engine. Bonnet is a petrol tank and hump is 8" filler cap so it coud be filled from a 3 gal bucket! Prototype made by Plymouth Trucke Co of Plymouth Ohio. No connection with Chrysler. 

1910 Plymouth 40HP Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette
Lovely photo received from Andy in Sheffield (UK) which he had purchased recently in Sheffield. Can we help to identify this car. -- Yes indeed, a British made car, manufactured at Belsize Woks, Manchester, by company initially Marshall & Co making cars in 1897. Changed name to Belsize Motors in 1906. This one is a medium sized car, a cca 1910 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette frequently used as a taxi, which this may be as driver has a white chauffeur's uniform and white hat. Defunct 1925.

1910 Belsize 14'16 Landaulette

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911 Star 15HP Tourer
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle on the photo taken in the Nelson, New Zealand circa 1912.  --  Couple of our Star experts agree this is a cca 1911 Star 15HP Tourer, later referred to as 15/20, and found second photo from Wellington Library on the same car/journey: " Sportsman awheel in Nelson, 1912. Joe Cochrane's taxi is a Star, his passengers include two jockeys, a publican and press representative", all of them looking a wee bit merry!

1911 Star 15HP Tourer

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912 LGOC Type B Open Top Bus
Interesting photo pointed out by our Publicity Officer Tony Russell (UK) in a dark corner of the Dog & Duck in Outwood, and wondered what the small car was? -- So this is a photo-of-a-photo taken from behind glass and subsequently much worked on to show details. It turns out to be a double-decker bus coming out of Godstone towards Reigate. From the form of the humpy shape radiator and the coachwork this is a cca 1912 LGOC/AEC Type B Open Top Bus. 900 such busses used in WW1 action!

1912 LGOC Type B Open Top Bus

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913 La Buire Roadster
Another lovely photo received from Andy in Sheffield (UK) which he had purchased recently in Yorkshire. Can we help identify this car. -- Wheel hub appears to have the town name of Lyon on it. Lyon is in France so this limits choice of manufacturers. Wheelhub has a two word name, one seems ' La '. Two banks of 4 louvres but still having a flat radiator suggests a cca 1913 La Buire Roadster. Could be Model 8500 12HP or 9500 16HP.  Formed 1905, closed but restated 1909; liquidated in 1930,

1913 La Buire Roadster

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1918 Grant Model G Standard Touring
Interesting photo received from Seiyu Hosono (USA) of his grandfather driving his car with a white hat in Taipei, Taiwan most likely around 1915-1925. RHD car  perhaps because Taiwan was a Japanese colony? -- Very difficult one which took much searching and and assistance from the AACA. Thought initially as perhaps a Paige but identified by our Ariejan Bos as a 1918 Grant Model G Standard Touring made in Findlay Ohio, USA. Company lasted 1913 to 1922. Sold in UK as  Whiting-Grant.

1918 Grant Model G Standard Touring

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1925 Fiat 505 Torpedo
Lovely photo sent to us by Al Medrano from South Carolina (USA) of his wife's grandparents in Indonesia. He would like to know the make and possibly year of the car. --  Interesting one because the car is Italian, made in Turin by the Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino. Squarish bonnet and radiator, large body and has front brakes so has to be a cca 1925 Fiat 505 Torpedo tourer, Series Two. The earlier version had a rounded bonnet and was a development of the 501.  30,000 made.

1925 Fiat 505 Torpedo

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Radiator surround c1930 Talbot K75
Puzzling photo received from Adrian Fox (???) asking if we can assist in identifying the vehicle for this radiator surround. Item is brass and has name Chausson on lower part.   -- Chausson were major French radiator and coacbwork manufacturer who also later dabbled in cars. This rad/badge shape was very French and confirmed by one of our sages as a cca 1930 Talbot K75. At this time Antonio Lago was buying Talbot France from STD UK. Rad should be Chrome. Chausson shut down 2000.

Radiator surround c1930 Talbot K75

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Modified cca 1931 Willys 6'90 Coupe
Very puzzling photo received from Ron Severs (UK) of a car photographed in Italy. No other info. -- Why RHD in Italy? Pretty but something strange about it. Our Ariejan Bos suggests it is a modified cca 1931 Willys 6'90 Coupe. Mascot and hubs correct, modern shocks, but has been substantially lowered evidenced from no lower section to bonnet and number of horisontal louvres short! Unusual cab/rear trunk arrangement but similar 97 was bodied by Hojer Denmark as cabriolet.

Modified cca 1931 Willys 6'90 Coupe

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1934 Mercedes Benz Type 200 Lang
Cinema screen grab taken from a Russian TV Series "Po zakonam voennogo vremeni" (According to  the laws of Wartime) made 2015/19, and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. -- German car, long body big hubcaps so is probably the cca 1934 Mercedes Benz Type 200 Lang Limousine. Type number W21. This was a development of the W15 Type 170, and  which grew a longer chassis in 1934 which included the Pullman. Originally 1961cc six, grew in 1936 to 2229cc. Became W143.

1934 Mercedes Benz Type 200 Lang

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1935 Audi Front 225 Special Cabriolet
Another interesting photo sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify this vehicle on a photo which belongs to a friend who asks to identify it. No date to photo. --  Difficult angle and with not much of the front to see. However there seems to be a arrow shaped logo on the wheelshub which suggests this is an Audi.  The hubs are big and the spare wheel is not encased so thi is probab;ly a cca 1935 Audi Front 225 Special Cabriolet.

Probably 1935 Audi Front 225 Special Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Ford V8 Tudor Sedan
Difficult photo sent to us by Gil Meilleur, Winnipeg (Canada) of a an old car which he has not been able to identify. Obviously, from the tree that has grown through the vehicle, it has been there for a long long time. Hope we can help. -- First thing to do was to do some virtual shrub clearance and body panel beating. Then to contact our Mark Dawber for his suggestion. He advised: It is probably cca 1936 Ford V8 Tudor. Same body on 1935-36 cars but the wings were more bulbous on 1936 cars.

1936 Ford V8 Tudor Sedan

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1936 Wanderer W40 Cabriolet
Cinema screen grab taken from a Lithuanian (USSR)  film " Tiltas"  (The Bridge) made in 1956 where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. World War Two German occupation of Lithuania 1941 to 45. --  This is a German car in the luxury class which had design input by Ferdinand Porsche, and was made by Auto Union. Originally the W22, later the W40, this has vertical rad, so is a  cca 1936 Wanderer W 40 Two-door Four-seater Cabriolet with a 1950cc six cylinder. In 1945  became Audi.

1936 Wanderer W40 Cabriolet

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1951 EMW 340 Saloon
Another interesting photo sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify this. --  Difficult angle but the slope of the wing and bonnet is familiar. Car was German but bit difficult to say from which bit of Germany. Consulted our fried Raoul Rainer  in Stuttgart who confirmed this was from the East. This is a cca 1951 EMW 340 Saloon made in Eisenach. The mudguards are unique to EMW which was a developed from the pre-war BMW 326. 

c1951 EMW 340 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: c1955 Moskvich 401-420 Saloon
Cinema screen grab taken from a Russian TV Series "Po zakonam voennogo vremeni" (According to  the laws of Wartime) made 2015/19, and where cars are being investigated by IMCDB. -- Russian car, manufactured by Moscovskiy Zavod Malolitrazhnyh Avtomobiley, in Moscow, chosen by Stalin and based on Opel Kadett (and similar Renault Juvaquatre). Nearly 500,000 made, this seems from the second series, so  post 1954, and so would be a cca 1955  Moskvich  401-420  Saloon. 

c1955 Moskvich 401-420 Saloon

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1970 Mercedes Benz type O302 Coach
Another puzzling photo sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia) who is collector of old photos. Can we identify this vehicle probably photographed in Austria. --  Does appear Austrian registration from Vienna. This style of reg was in use 1947 to 1989. Regretfully we do not have info on the numbering system so cannot be more accurate. The coach is a Mercedes Benz type O 302 which was in production from 1965 to 1974.  32,000 busses were manufactured,  four engine sizes.

c1970 Mercedes Benz type O302 Coach

IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1972 Cadillac Coupe deVille
Lovely photo sent to us by Paul Varga (Australia)  of a lovely long car  parked in front of imposing buildings in NYC. No other info. Can we help identify the car in the attached image. -- Quite a modern car so slightly outside our period. The mascot on the radiator looked a bit like Cadillac so we asked our 'Americans' expert in New Zealand, Mark Dawber, for his thoughts. He advised  it is a cca 1972 Cadillac Coupe deVille. 1971 and 1972 cars are near identical but in 1972 badge was on rear pillar. 

1972 Cadillac Coupe deVille
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