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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING: 1897 Panhard & Levassor Victoria
Very period photo received from Alistair
MacLeod (UK) which
he believes was taken in the 1890s outside 29 Park Crescent in
Southport. The driver, his wife's
Great Grandfather (Dr William Barrett GP), may have owned the first car
in Southport. Her brother in front and wives in the back. The youngest
of the three boys was born in 1891.
-- Dating
is quite accurate as this car is a French cca 1897 Panhard &
Levassor Victoria. P&L began making similar cars under Daimler
licence in 1887.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1904
Brillie-Schneider SBS Racer
Another Photo received from Job van Huizen
(Holland) asking if
the SVVS could help him identify this car. It took part in Circuit des
Ardennes Commémoration in 2008. -- Featured
on the internet as having attended but it was not in the catalogue and
all other mentions of it appear without a name. Our specialists could
not come up with the manufacturer. It was subsequently identified
elsewhere as a cca
1904 Brillie-Schneider SBS 45.7
M04, when Brillie moved to Schneider works.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
White Steamer Touring
Three lovely photos received from Peter
Maher Wilmslow, Cheshire (UK) of
his wife's Grandparents, Grand Aunts and her G.Great-grand
father sitting in various motor cars. --
First photo is of a
cca 1906 White Steamer,
probably the 30HP Model G. John Warburton confirms this saying later
Whites all seem to have a much taller steering column resulting in the
steering wheel being placed much higher. White made steam cars to 1911, thereafter
gasoline. Car production ended in 1918.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Stuart Two Seater
Three lovely photos received from Peter
Maher Wilmslow, Cheshire (UK) of
his wife's Grandparents, Grand Aunts and her G.Great-grand
father sitting in various motor cars. --
Not one we knew but was a 'home fixture' for John
Warburton, our specialist on Star cars. The car is in fact a cca
1906 Stuart Two-seater made by Star
Cycle Co subsidiary of Star Motor Co in Wolverhampton. The A similar
Stuart exists in the Isle of Man. In 1909 The Star Cycle changed
to BRITON , a separate co.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1906
Unic Landaulete Taxi
Photo received from Derrick Sutton (UK)
helping his daughters future father in law with family tree. Date
unknown, shows great grandfather Timothy Edward Hanlon, in 1911 Census
as Motor Cab Driver. Services uniform? --
Probably Taxi driver; hat seems correct and boots,
taxi tag on the right breast pocket. Registration LN 5412 was issued by
London County Council, between November 1906 and March 1908;
say Autumn 1907. The car is a cca1906
Unic Landaulette Taxi,
probably 10/12 HP.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909
Briton Two-Seater
Three lovely photos received from Peter
Maher Wilmslow, Cheshire (UK) of
his wife's Grandparents, Grand Aunts and her G.Great-grand
father sitting in various motor cars. --
Not one we knew but was a 'home fixture' for John
Warburton, our specialist on Star cars. The car is in fact a cca1909
Briton Two-seater made by Star Cycle Co
subsidiary of Star Motor Co in Wolverhampton that in 1909 became the
BRITON. Note the 'stepney rim' on back tyre
indicating that the car had a puncture.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1909
Georges Roy Sporting Torpedo
Link sent by Mark Dawber
(New Zealand) to a photograph on Old
Motor site awaiting investigation. Mark remained a bit
puzzled.
-- Relatively sure this is a cca
1910 Georges Roy. Made in Bordeaux,
France, in very small numbers and not well know out of its locality.
Early cars recognisable by the round radiator; later had bullnose rad.
Surprisingly the company lasted 1906 to 1929 and even made some
commercial vehicles. - Diederichs cca 1912 had
similar rad but badge was winged.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Douglas and 1915 Napier
Another photo on the Old
Motor website awaiting investigation. Suggested that the
machines may be British, photographed in Britain. --
Yes indeed, both British. The motorcycle is a
cca 1910 Douglas 347cc Model C flat
twin registered at East Suffolk County Council. The car appears to have
been registered in Ross & Cromarty probably 1905/6 so possibly a
transferred numberplate because the car was confirmed by John Warburton
as probably being cca1911
Napier 15HP two-seater.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1910
Rainier Model F Touring
Another photo on the Old
Motor website awaiting investigation. Suggested it might be
a Belgian Germain
-- Identified by Layden as an
American cca
1910 Rainier Touring made in Saginaw,
Michigan. The primary pointer seems to be the drag link being
prominently ahead of the axle. Most other cars of a ’round’ type
bonnet have it behind. Also the louvres go only half way up the bonnet,
whereas most go way higher. Germain generally had no louvers. Make
was between 1905-11.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1911
Napier Landaulette
Enlargement of the back of the 1918 Ford
Model T Photo received from Andrew Parfitt
(UK) saying the passengers are his
relatives, but they probably did not own the car. He thinks it dates
from the early 1920s, and was probably taken in the Mansfield area.
-- The
car in the background could be a taxi in which they arrived. The car is
a cca
1911 Napier Landaulette or Landau, and
may well have been a taxi as Napier made more Taxis than cars in 1910.
Otherwise a very up-market make.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Unic Landaulete Taxi
Two photos received from Lin Sinton,
Sydney (Australia) of
taxi driven by wife's maternal grandfather Charles Brookes who
operated a fleet of taxis in Fulham, London. Photo from fashions about
1920 but car earlier? -- Vehicle
is a
cca 1912 Unic Landaulette
Taxi. Unic were made in France but many
were imported into UK as taxis. The registration LE 4897 was issued by
London County Council spring 1912. Fitted with oil lamps.
Electrics in use by 1914. Car looks relatively new so soon after.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1912
Chalmers Touring
Rather grand photo of Detroit Police car
being investigated by AACA . Interesting to note the the ram raider type
bumper at the front, a soft windscreen that can be rolled up (wont stop
many bullets that !) and the rather agricultural rear hurricane lamp (I
wonder at what speed it blows out?).
-- Our
thoughts because of the step-down chassis below rear door, air intake
grille on front of flat bulkhead and badge outline all say cca
1911 Chalmers Touring but West says that front doors denote 1912.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1913
De Dion Bouton Tourer
Photo received from Job van Huizen
(Holland) asking if
the SVVS could help him identify this car. It took part in a Belgian
event (Brussels) in about 2007. He has no information on the car
-- This
car has been seen on European rallies and is a 1913
De Dion Bouton Tourer, probably the
Model DH. De Dion Bouton & Trepardoux started manufacturing steam
cars in 1883, turned to petrol driven cars about 1900 and were for quite
a time the largest manufacturer of vehicles in the
world. Ended 1932.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1914
Humber TT Works
Another Photo received from Job van Huizen
(Holland) asking if
the SVVS could help him identify this car. It took part in Circuit des
Ardennes Commémoration in 2008. -- Peugeot
like radiator, but is a works 1914
Humber TT as indicated on a previous
VCC dating plate. Much confused by registration L 4770 issued by
Glamorgan County Council in Wales in 1919. This
car is known to the Humber register as the only survivor of three built
and did once carry DU Coventry registration.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1915
Studebaker SD Touring
Photo received from John L Jones (UK) found
amongst old ephemera, but cannot decide if it is family or just
something collected over the years! The photo is taken in England -
possibly Essex, late 1930's. The people in the motor could be his Great
Aunt and her friends. It looks 1930s. --
Vehicle can be dated from the registration which
was issued by Wiltshire County Council in 1915. Identification of the
car helped by name part hidden by numberplate. It is ca1915 Studebaker
SD Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1916 Ford Model T Special Pick-up
Puzzling photo received from Peter
Metcalfe, Flintshire, (UK) asking
for identification. -- Dating
is very difficult because vehicle looks to be a 'special' based on
a Model
T Two Seater Runabout. The rear part of
the body appears bit home-made and later. Rounded bonnet so 1916 or
later. Windscreen is 'special' so does not help with dating. The
Registration was issued by Wiltshire County Council, - in 1906 ! Guess
an American import, restored in 1960s, with plate from something
earlier.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1916
Overland Model 83 Touring
Two lovely photos submitted to us by Pamela Leach Assistant
Director of Operations, Seven Falls in Colorado Springs (USA).
She is currently creating a display of vintage photographs for 'Seven
Falls' found in their achieves but cannot find anyone who can tell her
what kind of autos they are. The photo was headed "Mule - Model
T". -- Correct
on the mule, but wrong on the Model T. Identified by Layden of the AACA as an
American cca1916
Overland Model 80 Touring
made in Toledo Ohio.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1917
Velie Six Touring
Another cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in an American film "East of Eden" made in
1955, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB. Written by
John Steinbeck and featuring Julie Harris and James Dean
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The car is relatively unusual being a
cca 1917 Velie Touring, possibly the
"Biltwel Six", made in the USA at Moline Illinois. 1909
High-wheeler maker married into John Deere family, and due good cars,
had a town named after car in Luisiana. Closed in
1929.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1918
Ford Model T Touring
Photo received from
Andrew Parfitt
(UK) saying the passengers are his
relatives, but they probably did not own the car. It looks as though
they were posing for the shot in a park (or similar) rather than on the
road. He thinks it dates from the early 1920s, and was probably taken in
the Mansfield area.
-- This
car is a cca
1918 Model T Touring so could have been
built in England. In 1914 they made 7310 cars, 29% of all UK car
production, and largest number from a single manufacturer in
Europe.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1923
New Hudson Motorcycle
Photo received from Sophie Gibbons,
Berkshire, (UK) trying
to put together a family history book for kids. She and sister are the
last in the line of family name. Picture is of Nan on a
motorcycle. --
This has been quite a difficult one but we are
relatively sure we cracked it. The motorcycle is a cca
1923 New Hudson. As not much of the
bike can be seen, especially engine, handlebars, relatively short and
downward pointed, are useful pointer to age. Not possible to pinpoint
model or cc.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1926
Pierce Arrow Touring
Two lovely photos submitted to us by Pamela Leach Assistant
Director of Operations, Seven Falls in Colorado Springs (USA).
She is currently creating a display of vintage photographs for 'Seven
Falls' found in their achieves but cannot find anyone who can tell her
what kind of autos they are. --
The headlamps in the wings are very much the
give-away. The rather grand Tourer is a cca1926
Pierce Arrow Touring, probably the
Series 80. Pierce Arrows were built in Buffalo New
York 1901 to 1938.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1927
Oakland Six Roadster
Another cinema screen grab of a vehicle
which appeared in the American 1972-81 series "The Waltons",
featuring John Boy and the famous goodnight sequence during the closing
titles, where the vehicles are being investigated by IMCDB.
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The relatively unique rectangular surround
of the radiator top housing a circular badge is recognisable as cca 1927
Oakland and the golf bag door in the side confirms it as a Roadster.
Made in Pontiac and named after local area Oakland County.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937 Nash LaFayette Six
Three photos received from Aad Streng,
Eindhoven, (Netherlands)
who is busy writing the history of his family transport business.
He came across a number of pictures of old trucks and cars that he was
not not able to identify and wondered if our organization would be able
to help him with his search. This photo relates to his father pictured
as taxi driver and must have been taken before WW2.
-- The
car is American, a
cca 1937 Nash LaFayette Six Sedan, and
looks quite new in the photo.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937
Ford Model 48 'Special'
Photo received from Iain Nicolson, East
Calderm, West Lothian, (UK)
found among late father-in-law's belongings - he is passenger in
the car. Lived in Edinburgh; photo has a Glasgow photographer's
stamp -- The
car is definitely a 'special', much modified from the original, which
was a Ford
Model 48. These were made in USA and in
UK, so it could be a UK model made November 1936 to December 1937.
Registration is Govan/Glasgow Borough Council issued between April and
June 1937.
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IDENTIFICATION AND
DATING:1937
Delahate Rad Surround
Photograph of a British stock car
taken in 1964 in which there is a radiator grille that baffles David
Kipling of Bc, (Canada). He has looked at
BSA, Rover, Wolseley, Singer, but no matches.
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Photo has done the rounds of all our experts including
USA but nobody has come up with a positive ID. Many cars of 1930 period had similar radiator surrounds.
The triangular
badge of the French Delahaye would fit; and David was subsequently
advised by owner it was from a 1937 Delahaye.
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we get stuck. Clicking on the photo
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containing some photos we are yet to crack ! Any
help would be very much appreciated.
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