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The SVVS Website currently
receives approximately 500,000
hits a year and the "HELP
PAGE" is internationally the most
visited 'page' on the site. We receive numerous e-mails from historians
and motoring enthusiasts from all over the world with the request to
identify vehicles from old photographs. We can help with identification
of Classic cars because most of us are old enough to remember them as
new, and owning Vintage photo or Veteran vehicles, many of us, and/or our
associates, are also specialists in own make or type of vehicle -
These Help Pages are therefore devoted to some of the interesting enquiries
received, and information that we have provided. While page is
being built, enquiries are in received order, - when completed, cars are in year
order:
Page155
below relates to enquiries received
during
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SVVS HELP PAGES have some 4,000 Enquiries
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: 1904
Belsize 18HP RE Tonneau
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle
on a photo posted on a Facebook page, - any ideas on
this car? -- DL11
is Isle of Wight County Council where registrations started December
1903. This one has been very hard and would have joined our small band
of 'unidentified' vehicles had our Ariejan Bos not advised that from a
photo in the January 1905 issue of the Autocar he had not found a good
match in a cca
1904 Belsize 18HP Rear Entrance Tonneau.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Maxim 16HP Tonneau
Another interesting photo received via
Mark Dawber of one posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. 'Motor Fire in Cheltenham'.
-- Very
unusual car made 1902-05 by the London General Automobile Co and
designed by prolific inventor/aviator Hiram Stevens Maxim, born
Maine USA, also designer of the US Columbia Electric, and Maxim machine
gun. From the honeycombed radiator and encased chain drive, a later cca
1905 Maxim 24HP Tonneau. Three types
of rad?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1905
Stanley Steamer Model E
Period photo submitted to Rootschat
forum by Birtsbees (USA) of
Grandpa and Grandma in Cambridge Massachusetts. Has not been able to
figure out make or year. -- It
is a 1905
Stanley Steamer Model E Runabout, made
only in 1905, with coffin-nose bonnet with a flat top. Also three
hinges, and no steering wheel as was last Stanley to have tiller
steering. Model E had a 10HP 2 cylinder engine of 56.c cu ins . Photo
is depicting car being filled up with water at some sort of well.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:Possibly
c1906 Britannia Runabout
Another interesting photo posted on
Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for
identification. This one was labeled 'Essex'. -- Impossibly
unclear reproduction. Small round radiator for size of car. The ovals
are narrower at top. High filer cap. Longish wheel hub. Does not fit
easily to any regulars. Ariejan Bos thinks could be wrong rad for car.
Our six possible makes; 3 France, 1 Holland and 2 UK. Wild guess,
possible local Essex purchase so a Colchester made
c1906 Brittania 24'40 Runabout.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1906
Triumph Motorcycle
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
on an NZ Facebook page matked Oriental Bay, Wellington, 1912. Norton? -- Chas
Moody, our motorcycle expert, thinks a cca
1905'6 Triumph much repaired and
updated by 1912 by spare-less Kiwis. It has no magneto so presumably a Trembler
Coil is hidden somewhere out of sight. The handlebars look Norton
and forks don't appear to have
any springing, so all could have been taken from another early
bike make.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Spyker 15'22 Charabanc
While searching for answers we come
across photographs of interesting vehicles which we put aside for later
study and investigation. WW1 UK photo requiring identification. --
AM 1xxx is Wilts CC registration 1908-11,
1912 was 2000. Circular radiator, round bonnet, removable louvre
panel, with flat name area and has 14 spoke wheels back and
front, This does seem to be a relatively unusual car for this area
being a c1907 Spyker 15'22 Charabanc
built in Amsterdan Holland. Closed
1922.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: P2 1907
Spyker 15'22 Charabanc
Photograph of interesting vehicle as
above requiring identification. -- Later
received advice from Neale Lawson, a renowned 'veterans expert' that in
the Wilts CC records there is a 15 HP Spyker registered on the 20th
April 1907 as AM 1016 to Sir Frederick Douglas Cunningham of Westbury,
born Bengal India died South Kensington 1935, as a side entrance
Tonneau dark green. This picture was obviously taken when it was quite
a lot older/modified, but he thinks it is probably the same car.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1907
Marmon Model F Touring
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the vehicle
on a photo sent to him by Tim Martin from USA saying - any ideas on
this car? -- Some
hints of an early Indianapolis built Marmon. We contacted our veterans
experts Ariejan Bos who confirmed this is an American air-cooled cca
1907 Marmon Touring, probably the
Model F. This would have been fitted with uprated 4 cylinder 35HP
90 degree air cooled V four cylinder engine and a cast aluminium
body. (
See also.. )
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:
1907 Humber 30'40 Tourer
Another interesting photo posted on Facebook by
John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one labeled 'Blackpool'.
-- Discussion
if Delaunay-Belleville or Maudsley. Relatively sure neither, nor the
other 'normal' round rads. Could be Blaclpool Speed Trials, a
competition model by Humber at Beeston on the basis of the small
production run of
cca 1907 Humber 30'40 Tourer reputedly
5652 or 6838cc and claiming 60hp. This /similar one was used on trials
after the IOM 1907 TT Races.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Lanchester 20 HP Double Phaeton
Our Publicity Officer
Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars and this time allied it to
his religion- the local pubs in Newdigate. This one is Six Bells- What
make and year is the car.
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photo is a bit fuzzy so we have repaired it a little. Car seems to have
no bonnet which aims it at a Lanchester. It has a separate rear section
with doors which puts it at cca 1909 and as it seems to have no
steering wheel it is the 20HP. So, a cca
1909 Lanchester 20 HP Double Phaeton.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1909
Adler 7HP Two-Seater
Another interesting photo received via
Mark Dawber of one posted on
Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking for
identification. This one was labeled 'Doctor and Mrs Davis in
Cheltenham in 1909'. --
Not an English car, nor an Englisk 'look'. Advised by our Ariejan Bos
that this is a car made in Frankfurt, Germany, but available in UK from
a branch in London. This is a cca
1909 Adler 7HP Two-Seater Voiturette.
Adler made bicycles 1853 cars 1905-WW2, office equipment therafter,
> Olivetti.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1910
Hotchkiss T Coupe De Ville
Another lovely photo received from Anthony
T. Sparling (UK-Ceylon)
researching family tree. This one is of a probable friend of a relative
living on Wray Common (Surrey UK). Would like to know make. -- Unclear
registration probably J so Durham (north England) but no
dating data available. French made in St Denis, Paris and later in UK
in Coventry. Round raditor, lipped mudguards and curved scuttle suggests
cca
1910 Hotchkiss 16'20 Type T Coupe De Ville
with 3.1 litre straight 4.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Ford T Landaulette
Our Publicity Officer
Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars and allied it to his
religion - the local pubs in Newdigate. This is Surrey Oaks, at
other end of village. What make/year is the car.
-- There
are three cars in photo: an unidentifiable 'two-seater' behind the
oak on the right. Difficult to fully make out but probably our friend
photographer? with 1911 Model T (see
below) at
other pub. On the far left another two seater but not enough of it visible
to make out what ?
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1911
Ford Model T Landaulette
Our Publicity Officer
Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars and allied it to his
religion- local pubs in Newdigate. This one is Six Bells- What
make/ year is the car. -- The
photo is a bit fuzzy so we have repaired it a little. Car seems to have
no conventional front springs so is a Model T. It has a rectangular
rather than curved bonnet so is pre 1916. It has no front passenger
door so is pre 1912. Gas lights, no bill to front mudguard. This
is cca
1911 Ford Model T Landaulette.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1912
Austro Daimler Prince Henry
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify vehicle
on Facebook from 1951 Glidden Tour in Pittsburgh. Mercedes? -- Not
Mercedes
but a cousin. Daimler Germany had Austrian dealer, later subsidiary
whom. Ferdinand
Porsche joined as designer and made competition model for the 1910 German
Prince Henry Trial, in which he then won in one. This is a later
production model possibly US bodied (by Healey, New York?) cca
1912 Austro Daimler Prince Henry 22'86 Sport.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1913
NSU 8'24 Roadster
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify modified
roadster
on a photo posted on a New Zealand Facebook page, Photo taken in
Henderson Auckland NZ in 1930, possibly European, perhaps NAG or
something German? -- Nearly
there. Made by a knitting machine manufacturer in Neckarsulm who
started 1873, later made bicycles, motorbikes and in 1905 cars, Medium
size so probably
cca 1913 NSU 8'24 Roadster. Famous for
Wankel Ro80 engine, VW in 1969.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1919
Bean 11.9 Two-Seater
Another interesting photo received via
Mark Dawber of one posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled 'Head St, Colchester'.
Perry? --
A group of cars with the two on the right being quite unusual. The left
one is not a Perry but quite close. Single piece windscreen says a cca
1919 Bean 11.9 Two-Seater Tourer
with 1795 cc 4-cylinder engine. Bean of Dudley was successor to Perry and
bought rights and jigs in 1919, a quick post WW2 car market entry.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING: Possibly
1919 Buick 35 Touring
Another puzzling photo from Tom
Cosens from Yorkshire (UK) of an old car
he didn't recognise. No other background. -- Military
driver and personnel in a parade with newsreel camera filming the
event. No visible number plate but has a British policeman and car is
RHD. Headlamps moved from inside to top of the wings. Smallish American
car. Part encased dumbirons. We asked our friends at AACA, poss Dort or
Maxwell, or possibly
a Red Cross cca 1919 Buick Model 35 Touring.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1924 Cubitt 16'20 Tourer.
Another interesting photo received via
Mark Dawber of one posted on Facebook by John Davies (UK) looking
for identification. This one was labeled 'Head St, Colchester'. Lancia?
-- A group of
cars with the two on the right being quite unusual. On right is
not Lancia but a British cca 1924 Cubitt 16'20
Tourer. Cubitts
were civil engineers, builders of Royal residence Buckingham Palace,
Osborne Hse., and Cenotaph, venturing briefly into American style car
production 1920-25 of about 3,000 cars.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1926
Fiat 503 Four Seat Torpedo
Another photo from our
regular contributor Raoul Rainer from Stuttgart (Germany)
from a batch of photos he put recently
onto his facebook page.
-- Suggested
as a Fiat 509 but this is a bigger car. Primary recognition feature of
the 509 is the external dynastart unit in the lower centre of the
radiator which this has NOT got. We think this is a
cca
1926 Fiat 503 Four Seat Torpedo. It
has a similar mid height bonnet hinge, spare tyre carrier, badge bar
and also larger rimmed headlamps.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1928
Erskine 51 Sedan
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the two vehicles
on a photo posted on a Spanish Facebook page, - any ideas on
this car? -- The
car on the left confused us a great deal by having European style
wheels and a European look, not surprising because it was designed with
Europe in mind and launched in Paris and London,
before in USA. This is Studebaker's
smaller cca
1928 Erskine 51 Royal 6 Sedan.
Non-standard wheels. About 90,000 cars made 1926-30.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1930
Hudson Great Eight Sedan
Lovely photo
sent to us by Leyland expert Mike Sutcliffe (UK)
who has a wonderful collection of fully
restored pre-1925 Leyland busses. Do we know make of car? -- The
registration GG 2575 is Glasgow BC of 1931. The car is American
although some were assembled in Acton in London. Our Mark Dawber
advises this is a
cca 1930 Hudson Great Eight, probably
Model U long wheelbase seven passenger Sedan,
smaller and lighter than the Six, but six
engine was 4,7 litre, and the eight only 3.5.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1932
Opel 18B Limousine
Our regular contributor Mark Dawber (New
Zealand) is trying to identify the two vehicles
on a photo posted on a Spanish Facebook page, - any ideas on
this car? -- The
car on the right equally confused because this time it is a European
car but with an American look. This is a German Car designed in
America. Has the rounded badge bar and sems to have three widows each
size so is probably the bigger cca
1932 Opel 1.8 Four-Door 18B Sedan.
Range made 1931-1933 after GM took over Opel.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:c1939 Fiat 500
A
Topolino Saloon
One of number of interesting photos
sent to us by Andrew Kostin from Moscow (Russia)
who is collector of old photos. 'Can you identify car taken in occupied
Germany by a Soviet officer in 1946. Exact venue is unknown.
-- We
think the building in the background is the lower part of the Victory
Statue in Berlin's Tiergarten Park to commemorate victory of Prussians
over the Danes 1864. Guess then in Brirish sector as British
Flag? The car is Italian cca 1939 Fiat 500
A Topolino Saloon, solid roof.
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IDENTIFICATION AND DATING:1949
Voisin Biscooter Prototype
Our Publicity Officer
Tony Russell (UK)
seems to be on the lookout for unusual cars and wondered if we knew
what this one was? Photo from one of our new members.
-- Well
known photo from Paris Salon 1949 of a microcar designed by early French
aviator and founder of world's first aircraft factory in 1905, Avions
Voisin. In 1919 also started making luxury cars, but shut down 1939 by
Nazis. Designed the 1949
Voisin Biscooter Prototype,
later 20,000 made as Biscuter in Spain 1954-58.
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